You really see what you want to see.
That’s an effort I wouldn’t wish on anyone. Netanyahu is, in my humble opinion, the best political operator on the planet.
Um…US Senators before Omar and Tlaib have made same trips with the same itineraries - visiting “Palestine” instead of Israel and meeting with terrorist sympathizers.
Netanyahu would have allowed the trip had Trump’s tweet not forced his hand.
No. For example, meddling in US domestic policies was a big blunder, making support of Israel a GOP issue instead of a bipartisan one…
Point taken. Arguably he was reading the wind anyway.
Edit: I’d argue he’s trying to milk Trump for all the foreign policy objectives he can. Maybe short sighted, but hardly shocking.
I mean, the Democrats have a party platform of a two state solution and recognizing Palestine right? After the way Obama treated Netanyahu, why would he count on Dems?
Yes, and not long ago that was also Israeli long term official policy, at least nominally. So it’s not exactly the Hamas charter.
How exactly did Obama treat him?
On average, Dems are going to be in the driving seat half the time, why burn the bridges?
Not disagreeing, @loppar…
But you have to admit that Tlib and Omar are new born infants when comparing their Political Experience and knowledge to that of Netanyahu and Putin.
Also…as you know, it was all about “Political Calculus”. There was no way in Hell that Bibi was going to piss off Trump; and a very Trump-Friendly Israeli Population; for two naive U.S. house members with anti-semetic tendencies; who may not even be in Congress in less than 2 years
That foreign leaders would buckle to the potential moods and tweets of Trump. Definitely doesn’t paint the picture of a strong leader, if true.
I don’t think Netanyahu did that, @pfury…
He quickly weighed the pluses and minuses…and realized he didn’t have one thing to gain by letting Tlaib and Omar piss all over him and Israeli policy while visiting Gaza.
I bet it didn’t even rank in his mind in terms of “tough” Political decisions.
Except, you know, showing magnanimity and respect for the judicial branch of it’s staunchest ally? Something along the lines of “I find your personal views repugnant but we have made a decision to respect all members of US Congress”
Easy to quarterback over the webz.
I think he is riding the gravy train (Trumps support) for all it is worth, since he lives in one of the more dangerous neighborhhood. Ideals don’t mean much when someone wants your existence.
Again…not disagreeing…so let me phrase it this way…
Don’t you think Netanyahu knows he is dealing with a person with the temperament of a petulant child in Trump…and simply said “Screw it…I don’t need headaches from Trump right now…”
Considering he’s let it pass historically a number of times, the consensus is pretty clear it was Trump imposed pressure.
Hating on Muslims is still pretty fashionable depending on geography. Trump having ‘what appears to be control Israeli leadership via his very tweets’ is popular with his supporters that I know. Why wouldn’t it be? We value our leaders having pull in other countries.
It should have. Any knowledge of trump would lead you to believe he will seek retribution if he feels offended in any way. That’s HYUGE for Israel
They were both very cold to each other 2010, 2013, 2015 and 2016. Not sure who started it. Don’t really care. But making the PM of an allied country wait in the parlor hungry while you eat is rude as fuck.
You have no idea if that’s true or not. That’s a NYT type hit piece. BiBi is his own man and It was his decision alone. He may have agreed with Trump and /or its possible he already made that decision before Trump said a word. Netanyahu is not a pasty. He’s a though politician. Correlation does not equal causation is a lesson the pussies at the NYT need to learn. Besides they have their own credibility issues given their latest controversies.
Um, the tribe or squad are representatives not Senators. Second, which Senators approached the Israeli govdrnment to visit Israeili territory calling it Palistine and had the same agenda as the squad? Do tell. I need check marks on all the criteria. Namely, filling out a form to visit Palestine not Israel, a state that does not a exist. Also, where the agenda did not include meeting any Israeli state ministers at any level at all.
The squad got busted trying to do a hit piece bashing Israel. They got caught and refused. It’s not complicated.
This wasn’t David against Goliath, this was mental halfwits against Israel.
And when Tlib was allowed to travel for family reasons, suddenly her grandma didn’t mean much of shit.
I did tell, but as usual you didn’t read it, but simply repeated your talking points.
Speaking of correlation and causation, if you don’t like Arabs, that doesn’t automatically mean Bibi is a saintly figure with a superior intellect.
He’s a corrupt asshole and his hubris has pushed him into making decisions that in the long term will be detrimental to the State of Israel’s foreign policy.
Wow. You know more about the NYT than people who read it. Or just plain people who read.
Look, guys;
My feeling is that most people in both houses of Congress love the limelight. “The Squad”…(particularly AOC, Tlaib and Omar) have shown that they especially love to hear themselves talk. (Even though Omar is probably getting a little more attention than she bargained for).
They saw a big stage on which to hear themselves talk.
Then they ran into a Master Politician who said “I ain’t havin’ that shit on my watch…” (How do you say that in Hebrew, @Jewbacca?)…
I agree with @pat on this one. Netanyahu over the years…whether you Love him or Hate him…has dealt with a lot tougher people and issues than Trump and “The Squad”.
Did you read the timeline of the events? Bibi initially approved the trip, then reversed the decision after Trump basically called him out on Twitter. Then reversed again for Tlaib. So much for “I’m having none of that shit”.
And he allowed other US lawmakers with the exact same itinerary by the exact same organizers to come to “Palestine” and meet with Hama sympathizers.
The question is are you comfortable with US lawmakers and politicians in general being treated differently by US foreign allies based on their (possibly repugnant) political beliefs?