Thibs New Training Questions #4

[quote]MAF14 wrote:
Hey Thibs,

For those who dont always do shoulders before chest, is there any “light” stuff one can do that you would recommend to warm up the joint?

would just like the bar for 25 reps do the trick?

thanks[/quote]

  1. I do NOT do shoulders before chest… nor do I do shoulders OR chest… I do PRESSING and always start each PRESSING workout with an overhead movement

  2. It’s NOT about warming up the joint. 25 reps wont do nor will any “light” exercise. It is about activating the musculature that stabilizes the scapular belt. And starting each PRESSING workout with an overhead movement is the only thing that I found to work with preventing shoulder problems while bench pressing.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:
Hey Thibs,

For those who dont always do shoulders before chest, is there any “light” stuff one can do that you would recommend to warm up the joint?

would just like the bar for 25 reps do the trick?

thanks[/quote]

  1. I do NOT do shoulders before chest… nor do I do shoulders OR chest… I do PRESSING and always start each PRESSING workout with an overhead movement

  2. It’s NOT about warming up the joint. 25 reps wont do nor will any “light” exercise. It is about activating the musculature that stabilizes the scapular belt. And starting each PRESSING workout with an overhead movement is the only thing that I found to work with preventing shoulder problems while bench pressing.[/quote]

oh, wow. once again, my assumptions were wrong… thanks again. im going to start doing that assap

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:
Hey Thibs,

For those who dont always do shoulders before chest, is there any “light” stuff one can do that you would recommend to warm up the joint?

would just like the bar for 25 reps do the trick?

thanks[/quote]

  1. I do NOT do shoulders before chest… nor do I do shoulders OR chest… I do PRESSING and always start each PRESSING workout with an overhead movement

  2. It’s NOT about warming up the joint. 25 reps wont do nor will any “light” exercise. It is about activating the musculature that stabilizes the scapular belt. And starting each PRESSING workout with an overhead movement is the only thing that I found to work with preventing shoulder problems while bench pressing.[/quote]

Very interesting Chris.

If I want to save my strength for the bench press, do you still recommend going heavy on that first overhead pressing movement (ramp up to less than 80-85% maybe?).

Thibs,
If a short-limbed trainee had good chest development, and (relatively) poor triceps development, would you recommend:

  • Pressing exercises (overhead, incline, flat) followed by some isolation triceps work, or something like…

  • Overhead press, Dips, closegrip incline/flat bench, without any isolation triceps work?

CT, Here are my stats :

Body weight: 154 lbs
age : 26 years
height : 5 ft 6 inches
arms : 15 inches
waist : 34 inches
body fat : 15 %(approx)

Do you think I should go on a bulking diet to build more mass and size. Or do you think cutting body fat will be a better idea ?

[quote]hit the gym wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:
Hey Thibs,

For those who dont always do shoulders before chest, is there any “light” stuff one can do that you would recommend to warm up the joint?

would just like the bar for 25 reps do the trick?

thanks[/quote]

  1. I do NOT do shoulders before chest… nor do I do shoulders OR chest… I do PRESSING and always start each PRESSING workout with an overhead movement

  2. It’s NOT about warming up the joint. 25 reps wont do nor will any “light” exercise. It is about activating the musculature that stabilizes the scapular belt. And starting each PRESSING workout with an overhead movement is the only thing that I found to work with preventing shoulder problems while bench pressing.[/quote]

Very interesting Chris.

If I want to save my strength for the bench press, do you still recommend going heavy on that first overhead pressing movement (ramp up to less than 80-85% maybe?).[/quote]

Your strength will go down the first week or two, but eventually you will become stronger on the bench by first working hard on the overhead press.

[quote]never_got_ripped wrote:
CT, Here are my stats :

Body weight: 154 lbs
age : 26 years
height : 5 ft 6 inches
arms : 15 inches
waist : 34 inches
body fat : 15 %(approx)

Do you think I should go on a bulking diet to build more mass and size. Or do you think cutting body fat will be a better idea ?[/quote]

Neither… I HATE questions like this. At your level just get on a solid strength training program and high quality nutrition plan. Let things take their course.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]never_got_ripped wrote:
CT, Here are my stats :

Body weight: 154 lbs
age : 26 years
height : 5 ft 6 inches
arms : 15 inches
waist : 34 inches
body fat : 15 %(approx)

Do you think I should go on a bulking diet to build more mass and size. Or do you think cutting body fat will be a better idea ?[/quote]

Neither… I HATE questions like this. At your level just get on a solid strength training program and high quality nutrition plan. Let things take their course.[/quote]

so you mean I should follow your I bodybuilder program with John Berardi’s massive eating plan

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]never_got_ripped wrote:
CT, Here are my stats :

Body weight: 154 lbs
age : 26 years
height : 5 ft 6 inches
arms : 15 inches
waist : 34 inches
body fat : 15 %(approx)

Do you think I should go on a bulking diet to build more mass and size. Or do you think cutting body fat will be a better idea ?[/quote]

Neither… I HATE questions like this. At your level just get on a solid strength training program and high quality nutrition plan. Let things take their course.[/quote]
sorry for posting twice

Just read an article at MD:

Here is the final summary quote:

Seems like a good argument in favor of multiple training sessions per day to get the benefit of exercise-induced local mechanisms multiple times per day.

CT: In one of your livespill videos you mentioned training an older body builder’s legs soley with the prowler and he won the competition. I am interested in which movements you focused on mostly, or a few sample leg workouts using the prowler only. Such as did you pull, push with high handles, push with low handles all in same workout?

Also, How exactly do you practice the perfect rep using the prowler or does that not apply? If I begin my sled pull where I can back pedal quickly, then 2/3 through my 40 meter length I start to come to a walk am I using too much weight or is this acceptable?

also, do you know where the straps your use on your prowler are from? With the big circle handles?

[quote]illgixxer wrote:
CT: In one of your livespill videos you mentioned training an older body builder’s legs soley with the prowler and he won the competition. I am interested in which movements you focused on mostly, or a few sample leg workouts using the prowler only. Such as did you pull, push with high handles, push with low handles all in same workout?

Also, How exactly do you practice the perfect rep using the prowler or does that not apply? If I begin my sled pull where I can back pedal quickly, then 2/3 through my 40 meter length I start to come to a walk am I using too much weight or is this acceptable?

also, do you know where the straps your use on your prowler are from? With the big circle handles?[/quote]

  1. We used many movements…
  • pushing the prowler using the upright handles… fast pushing
  • pushing the prowler using the upright handles … slow pushing focusing on full extension
  • walking backwards (blast straps or TRX attached to the prowler) in a crouched position (knees 90 degrees)
  • walking backwards with the leg extended
  • pull-through
  • dragging the prowler (prowler is behind you and you are holding the straps to pull it) with the torso bent forward (parallel to the floor)
  • dragging the prowler (prowler is behind you and you are holding the straps to pull it) with the knees always locked (Frankenstein walk)
  • dragging the prowler sideways

etc.

Not in the same workout but we used all of them.

  1. The perfect rep doesn’t apply to the prowler… heck there is not even an eccentric or transition phase with the prowler!

  2. We started using gymnastic rings, but we ended up using either blast straps or TRX

[quote]never_got_ripped wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]never_got_ripped wrote:
CT, Here are my stats :

Body weight: 154 lbs
age : 26 years
height : 5 ft 6 inches
arms : 15 inches
waist : 34 inches
body fat : 15 %(approx)

Do you think I should go on a bulking diet to build more mass and size. Or do you think cutting body fat will be a better idea ?[/quote]

Neither… I HATE questions like this. At your level just get on a solid strength training program and high quality nutrition plan. Let things take their course.[/quote]

so you mean I should follow your I bodybuilder program with John Berardi’s massive eating plan
[/quote]

Ok, stop asking questions now. I wont answer you again. If that’s what I meant I would have said it.

[quote]never_got_ripped wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]never_got_ripped wrote:
CT, Here are my stats :

Body weight: 154 lbs
age : 26 years
height : 5 ft 6 inches
arms : 15 inches
waist : 34 inches
body fat : 15 %(approx)

Do you think I should go on a bulking diet to build more mass and size. Or do you think cutting body fat will be a better idea ?[/quote]

Neither… I HATE questions like this. At your level just get on a solid strength training program and high quality nutrition plan. Let things take their course.[/quote]

so you mean I should follow your I bodybuilder program with John Berardi’s massive eating plan
[/quote]

No offense, but don’t waste space in this thread with ridiculous questions like these. CT is being more than generous by taking his time to help everyone out here. Do some research on your own before going to someone for your “fix all” answer.

Coach,

Thanks for the advice on the quad prehab/strengthening. I had already dropped the jump work after I saw the knee bend inwards, and the idea of the depth landings is an excellent one!

One quick question—

more peri-workout nutrition than anything. I recall you saying you switched to mostly Surge Workout Fuel for carbs during the training sessions. If one were interested in an all-out muscle building plan, would you still recommend FINiBARs with the ANACONDA, or would you rather stay with Surge Workout Fuel after having used it for Daryl’s Contest project? Why do you prefer one over the other?

Also, any further ANACONDA tweaks you like for all-out bulking, or have you pretty much stabilized?

CT,

What do you think of having large amounts (15 - 20 grams) of fish oil everyday?

Coach,
Could you explain in simple terms the word “force curve”
Merci

[quote]Markriff wrote:
Coach,
Could you explain in simple terms the word “force curve”
Merci
[/quote]

Not really.

There is more than one force curve.

For example there is the force-length curve which basically establish how much force a muscle can produce at various lengths. Or more practically how much force it can produce at various points in the range of motion.

There is also the force-velocity curve which shows how much force you can produce if you have to go at a certain speed.

[quote]jonmb11 wrote:
CT,

What do you think of having large amounts (15 - 20 grams) of fish oil everyday?[/quote]

I’ve gone higher than that and lived. The only downside I see is some potential (but not highly probable) coagulation problem. But 15-20g is fairly safe if it is a high quality fish oil devoid or mercury.

Now whether it is effective or needed or not is another story. In some cases it really can help, but in most cases it is probably overshooting.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]jonmb11 wrote:
CT,

What do you think of having large amounts (15 - 20 grams) of fish oil everyday?[/quote]

I’ve gone higher than that and lived. The only downside I see is some potential (but not highly probable) coagulation problem. But 15-20g is fairly safe if it is a high quality fish oil devoid or mercury.

Now whether it is effective or needed or not is another story. In some cases it really can help, but in most cases it is probably overshooting.[/quote]

Thanks for the quick reply CT.

The brand I use is from trader joe’s. It’s molecularly distilled fish oil derived from anchovies and sardines. 1100 mg fish oil per capsule with 300 mg epa and 200 mg dha. Does this sound like a good product to you? Also, what are some examples in cases where this much fish oil helps? How many grams would you normally shoot for?