Ha no it’s not you. Reread my first post. I probably shouldn’t have posted that in retrospect but I’m going to call a spade a spade if I see it.
[quote]schultzie wrote:
people ask me if i “workout” i tell them im training to be an olympic weightlifter.
people see no difference between powerlifting, bodybuilding, or olympic weightlifting, when in reality they are all so much different, but i get lumped into the same category.
its like racism but with weightlifting[/quote]
To me (someone who is not interested in bodybuilding) that is the worst!
Being told that if I keep lifting those “heavy” weights I’ll get “bulky and look like a man” or one of those “freaky female bodybuilders” gets annoying too, but I guess that’s a whole other topic
[quote]tykraus7 wrote:
Scott M wrote:
There is a post on here already that kind of shows my least favorite thing. I don’t want to call him out but it’s fairly obvious who it is.
I’m guessing that is me?
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I wouldn’t have thought so. I agree with Scott, but I can see 2 posts that fall into that category, one is very obvious IMO.
Personally I would rather comps were judged on a lot more than size - or rather maybe it would be more correct to say I’d prefer it if size in in itself were not as important as it appears to be.
I hate how unhealthy they end up looking, with the tanning and dehydration.
They also walk stupid during their shows.
[quote]Scott M wrote:
Ha no it’s not you. Reread my first post. I probably shouldn’t have posted that in retrospect but I’m going to call a spade a spade if I see it. [/quote]
Glad you did though. It makes it harder to feel part of a community when you have too many people spoiling the image or culture you think is important.
[quote]Scott M wrote:
Ha no it’s not you. Reread my first post. I probably shouldn’t have posted that in retrospect but I’m going to call a spade a spade if I see it. [/quote]
Haha I looked it over and I don’t think I found anyone’s post that is very obvious.
I’ll add a little more but in reality it is just a branch off my original post. Lack of comradery among us as a community. We are the people that lift weights, we eat according to a goal and not for taste, we get up after collapsing from a 20 rep squat wipe the spit from our mouths and smile, we are the minority and we are freaks.
We don’t help our cause anymore by arguing about trivial things amongst ourselves and creating little sub groups. Powerlifters argue with bodybuilders, gear vs no gear, natural vs enhanced, Ronnie Coleman vs Arnold vs Steeve Reeves vs John Grimek generations, it goes on and on.
Why can’t we respect each other as people first and foremost, and then as brothers(and sisters) cut from the same cloth? This is getting into more of the category of “worst thing about the lifting community” so I’ll wrap it up.
[quote]Scott M wrote:
I’ll add a little more but in reality it is just a branch off my original post. Lack of comradery among us as a community. We are the people that lift weights, we eat according to a goal and not for taste, we get up after collapsing from a 20 rep squat wipe the spit from our mouths and smile, we are the minority and we are freaks.
We don’t help our cause anymore by arguing about trivial things amongst ourselves and creating little sub groups. Powerlifters argue with bodybuilders, gear vs no gear, natural vs enhanced, Ronnie Coleman vs Arnold vs Steeve Reeves vs John Grimek generations, it goes on and on.
Why can’t we respect each other as people first and foremost, and then as brothers(and sisters) cut from the same cloth? This is getting into more of the category of “worst thing about the lifting community” so I’ll wrap it up. [/quote]
are you talking about that very old thread I created “Ronnie vs. Arnold”
I don’t seem to be getting my point across well today haha. But I mean case in point there, some people love Arnold, some love Ronnie(some love both) but we sit there and argue about it when in reality we all love bodybuilding in some shape or form.
We seperate eachother into tiny little cliques and don’t realize we are 90% the same. Look at the post in strength sports about how people train and you’ll get somewhat of an idea what I mean.
[quote]tykraus7 wrote:
rander wrote:
tykraus7 wrote:
The really huge and massy guys (Mr Olympia) really piss me off too. What happened to having good bodies that are visually appealing?
Thats for chicks
So you’d rather look like Ronnie Coleman than Arnold or some of the older guys?
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its a joke
[quote]Scott M wrote:
There is a post on here already that kind of shows my least favorite thing. I don’t want to call him out but it’s fairly obvious who it is. [/quote]
the suspense is killing me.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Scott M wrote:
There is a post on here already that kind of shows my least favorite thing. I don’t want to call him out but it’s fairly obvious who it is.
the suspense is killing me.[/quote]
Do you think anyone who doesnt bodybuild cares about, let alone wants to understand your cyclical carb diet? Arent you a fairly new trainee? Im sure that in 1 year you have managed to become quite the perfect physical specimen, eh? Since when does knowing what not to eat make you necessarily smarter than anyone?
I have a professor who can hardly walk but he can recite to you every historical event in the past 1500 years of western civilization and point out every trend and theme. He likely would not understand my program or diet. Does that make him any less intelligent?
Let me give you something to munch on here: people think bodybuilders are meat heads and lunks not because of their actual intellect, but rather because there are quite a few people in this sport who have come to the conclusion that their ability to gain muscle supercedes the worth of anyone who doesnt possess an impressive amount of muscle mass.
In case the suspense is still getting to you, your post illustrates the EXACT thing I am talking about.
It’s funny Scott brings this up. I’m sure Ramo won’t mind my divulging that he and I were talking about that very thing the other day. He brought up the fact that in the days of yore lifters of all types trained side by side and sometimes together learning from and helping each other reach their goals no matter how different they were from their own.
Nowadays there’s way too much exclusionary condescending finger pointing, one group against the others. As far as calling a spade a spade, the “functional” crossfit “athletic” types are the worse for this. Bodybuilders are useless dinosaurs, powerlifters are fatsos, and so on.
As far as pro bodybuilding itself, I don’t dislike very much overall. I am awed by the mastodons on stage drugs or not, The oily fake tan doesn’t bother me at all. Truth be told I’d love to be that big and a lot more guys than care to publicly admit it would too. I WOULD prefer it if health and longevity were more of a concern and I believe similar results could be had without as much sacrifice in that area, but that’s their call. I don’t sneer at people who use gear because I happen to know that they outwork most of their critics and do not owe everything they are to the simple fact that they use like so many seem to assume.
This may be only peripherally applicable here, but the thing I like least is having to search high and low for food that isn’t practically engineered to kill me.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
This may be only peripherally applicable here, but the thing I like least is having to search high and low for food that isn’t practically engineered to kill me.
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This post was funny and so true!
…And it would be most fun to go to a gym full of T-Nation members.
I have the utmost respect for most of you guys and gals.
fuck you!
people asking me how much my penis has shrank from taking creatine and protein…I just tell them, nah, the steroids do that to me…than I proceed to throw shit at them and yell harshly in a violent roid rage
Guys who shave their body hair in the showers at the gym.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Scott M wrote:
There is a post on here already that kind of shows my least favorite thing. I don’t want to call him out but it’s fairly obvious who it is.
the suspense is killing me.
In case the suspense is still getting to you, your post illustrates the EXACT thing I am talking about.[/quote]
sarcasm eludes you.
anyway, i was using the example of the AD just as a means to show that lifting/dieting isnt as simplistic as the general population seems to think it is. hence the common fear of “getting too big” which people use as an excuse not to try even though “getting too big” is often unatainable without years of dedication, superior genetics, and drugs.
my diet isnt what qualifies me as “smart” i leave that to my critical thinking/IQ.
I highlighted the parts of your post that you need to go back and read and then think about exactly how you come off.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
the amount of eating. i hate that i cant really go out anywhere for too too long because i have to have my meals. it really sucks in that it excludes you from a lot of people, especially in addition to the gym time.
the lack of understanding from a lot of people irritates me too. its like people think im some kind of weirdo because of what i eat/when i eat/why i eat. of course every single one of them is either severly under or overweight.
as far as people thinking that we’re dumb for being bigger and stronger: i love it that im SMARTER and in better shape than 90+% of the people i meet, it makes me feel like a superior being haha. i actually think most people who are in extremely good phsyical shape and DONT use a coach/trainer are very intellectual & dedicated because as we all know putting on respectable muscle is not an easy thing to do.
…people think youre a muscle-head until you explain how the anabolic diet works and then they feel like a little child.
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