[quote]buckfiftytrainer wrote:
this went far away from my main point of the post… the shit that pisses me off is every1 bashes someone for doing curls in the rack. some people need to do curls from the rack who have bad backs like me. and probably most people on this site think that curling in the rack is stupid or w/e. who cares? i do stuff that most people find unusual. You think when i shadow box in my gym people find that normal? or when i use my neck harness. I honestly dont care about what everyone finds normal. but curling in the power rack is a really good bicep exercise, try it next time [/quote]
[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
Curling in the squat rack is like parking in a handicapped spot.
Sure, you can do it, but it’s extremely rude. Just because all the handicapped spots are open doesn’t mean you can park there because it’s convenient. If you have a need for that spot (or curl more than 135 lbs) then it’s allowed.
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Yeah i understand everyones complaint of a rude kid who just takes up a power rack if someone is needing it. If i see someone moping around looking at the rack. I offer it to them. but i dont think the amount of weight you lift should be a factor if you can do an exercise or not.
There are so few squat racks at my gym that it really pisses me off when people can curl anywhere but take up the one area of the gym that I need to get my workout done.
Use a damn bench press then put it on the bench and pick it up and curl it if you don’t want to dl such a small amount of weight from the floor. Their are tons of benches at most gyms compared to a squat rack. He was doing 135 which is a huge amount of weight for curls but absolutely nothing for dl.
[quote]buckfiftytrainer wrote:
Brant_Drake wrote:
Yes t3hpunisher i do box.
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How does your back affect your drilling? I had a dude I was sparring with who had to take breaks literally every 30 seconds because his back was in so much pain that he couldn’t keep his stance.
[quote]shizen wrote:
Use a damn bench press then put it on the bench and pick it up and curl it if you don’t want to dl such a small amount of weight from the floor. Their are tons of benches at most gyms compared to a squat rack. He was doing 135 which is a huge amount of weight for curls but absolutely nothing for dl.
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I hear you shizen. The main point of the origional post was to mainly say not to neglect curls. With the amount of threads and posts going on about how gay it is to curl in the power rack and Dave Tate saying you should not curl at all. There are many readers that get confused and will neglect curling period, and end up tearing a bicep. I attached a article in my op to show a powerlifter who tore his bicep by listening to Daves advice ( no hate on Dave, I buy from elite-fts) Even if he did power rack curls it might have saved his lifts. I understand that you want to lift with the power rack but doing curls in them were benefitial for my curling strength i got out of a plateu by doing them. But i get all ur points.
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
How does your back affect your drilling? I had a dude I was sparring with who had to take breaks literally every 30 seconds because his back was in so much pain that he couldn’t keep his stance.
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Yeah i feel him on that one. My back is probably not as bad as his. But man it was a pain. I actually stopped sparring now days but continue to do bag work. Might get back into it again soon though.
[quote]buckfiftytrainer wrote:
shizen wrote:
Use a damn bench press then put it on the bench and pick it up and curl it if you don’t want to dl such a small amount of weight from the floor. Their are tons of benches at most gyms compared to a squat rack. He was doing 135 which is a huge amount of weight for curls but absolutely nothing for dl.
I hear you shizen. The main point of the origional post was to mainly say not to neglect curls. With the amount of threads and posts going on about how gay it is to curl in the power rack and dave tate saying you should not curl at all. There are many readers that get confused and will neglect curling period, and end up tearing a bicep. I attached a article in my op to show a powerlifter who tore his bicep by listening to daves advice ( no hate on dave, I buy from elite-fts) Even if he did power rack curls it might have saved his lifts. I understand that you want to lift with the power rack but doing curls in them were benefitial for my curling strength i got out of a plateu by doing them. But i get all ur points.[/quote]
You haven’t seen the curl thread in the bodybuilding forum have you? People here love their curls, they just don’t like people using up their rack when they can easily do their curls elsewhere. Strongman love their curls also, look at magnus for example. Curling is great just don’t be a dick that this site hates by taking up space you don’t need.
Why would someone do 21’s separating the rep ranges when the whole point is the continuous tension in the 3 partial ranges. By separating them you loose the benefit.
Buckfifty you know shit about lifting. Stay with your little boxing, maybe this web site is better for your goals.
[quote]sawadeekrob wrote:
Why would someone do 21’s separating the rep ranges when the whole point is the continuous tension in the 3 partial ranges. By separating them you loose the benefit.
Buckfifty you know shit about lifting. Stay with your little boxing, maybe this web site is better for your goals.
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well buddy… i visit rosstraining.com alot… and before you jump to conclusions you should read my origional post. Like i said their are many different versions of 21 the one i was referring to you would increase the amount of weights at the top portion of the lift and at the end when you cannont lift anymore you do partial reps. With the power rack you set the pins to the 3 different ranges and then curl with varying weights in each of the ranges.
My fault ill get this quoting thing down soon though… my response is in the last post im sure your smart enough to figure it out since you must be a professional bodybuilder sawadeekrob. and since i know shit about lifting shouldnt this be the site to help me improve?
[quote]buckfiftytrainer wrote:
My fault ill get this quoting thing down soon though… my response is in the last post im sure your smart enough to figure it out since you must be a professional bodybuilder sawadeekrob. and since i know shit about lifting shouldnt this be the site to help me improve?[/quote]
tough crowd, i love curling hence me username, and my thread http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=1806667, but in reality i love training every bodypart. IMO squat rack curling should be left at a minimum because the equipment can generally be used for better purposes. I can curl off the floor and on the squat rack, but can only squat in the squat rack hence the squat rack’s main purpose is for squatting. I would not complain if someone uses the squat rack to curl due to injury. I think curling should be a staple in everyones routine, just be considerate and if it can be avoided curl somewhere else.
I can’t be arsed to read this whole thread… got to about 7 posts down from the OP but I think I busted a vessel in my head. Had to clean the screen off and all that. Nasty business.
The only problem I have with someone curling in the squatrack is if it’s the only one available, and they feel the need to work their biceps in it. If I have to wait to do squats because someone is workin their biceps, then that’s ridiculous. You can do curls all over the place, I can’t do squats in the same way.
How about you, buckfiftytrainer, stop creating strawman arguments and becoming some martyr for all the uber sensitive weak people who feel they’re being victimized because they have to pick their weight up off the floor.
I think I may have hurt some feelings. So here are some flowers.
[quote]buckfiftytrainer wrote:
but curling in the power rack is a really good bicep exercise, try it next time [/quote]
Does gravity work different in a power rack? How is someone curling 100lbs in a power rack different than someone curling 100lbs on the pre-loaded bars or somewhere else where they aren’t taking up my squatting space. It might sound egotistical but when there is only one power rack in the entire gym and some guy is curling a 45lb bar with a 10 pounder on each side and you feel like squatting…you kinda get annoyed.
Curling in the corner of the gym is a really good bicep exercise, try it next time.
By the way, I really like the version of 21s where you let the weight drop on the pins of the power rack from mid air, grunt and scream and catch the bar at the top again. Really helps develop the peak of my biceps. I haven’t yet figured out how to readjust the height of the pins mid-set with the barbell lying on them so I usually only get to 7 reps, but it burns like hell and when on a cycle of NO-booster, I get one hell of a pump as well. If somehow I manage to get those other 14 reps in, I’m sure I’ll look like that Schwarzen-whatever guy who’s governor and half-robot and has a midget twin brother and stuff.
A thought crossed my mind… maybe you should work on getting your back in shape so you are able to lift 100lbs off the floor… that might be a bit more important than your super hardcore biceps training.
Stay the fuck out of my power rack. I hate it when newbs take up equipment ESPECIALLY the power rack with no regard for it’s actual use.
[quote]buckfiftytrainer wrote:
You think when i shadow box in my gym people find that normal? or when i use my neck harness. I honestly dont care about what everyone finds normal. but curling in the power rack is a really good bicep exercise, try it next time [/quote]
I bet you always make sure to keep your hoodie on with the hood up over your head when you’re shadow boxing too.
[quote]buckfiftytrainer wrote:
Yes t3hpunisher i do box. [/quote]
[quote]buckfiftytrainer wrote:
I actually stopped sparring now days but continue to do bag work. Might get back into it again soon though. [/quote]
So you box, but you don’t box. Have you even had an actual match (your backyard doesn’t count)? Hitting a bag every once in a while doesn’t make you a boxer. Tool.
