[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
While an n=1 will never be proof that doesn’t mean it isn’t valid evidence or a data point. There have been numerous people with n=1 experiments that have impacted the nation to include Joe Cross, Tom Naughton, Morgan Spurlock, and Mark Haub to name a few… It’s just when the results match the already expected outcomes of people they accept it easily. Conversely when the results don’t match people’s expected outcome they tend to refute it with vigor.[/quote]
… All that means is that people are idiots.
Anyone swayed by a sample size of 1 are idiots. Plain and simple.
[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:
Unfortunately you also made claims (both implicit and explicit) about this being a good way to eat and train for performance and physique enhancement and then followed those claims up by saying you were an expert and pointing out that you try to sell your ideas to people. I’m pretty sure thats where you lost almost everyone. [/quote]
I only claimed to be an expert dieter and in nothing else.
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Hey, don’t bring me into this. It’s not like I’ve got years of experience getting myself and countless others (amateurs, professionals, everyday folk) into great shape without fail via proven (“expert?”) knowledge of dieting or anything.
Luckily we’ve got certain individuals providing “valuable information that’s a hell of a lot more scientifically valid” than what some credentialed people are putting out there.
(Anyone remember a former poster’s ranting about how he was trying to save people from “bad science?” -lol)
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
Derek I added you on G+. I’ve never used G+ before so I don’t know what happens now, but you are for sure added.
OP, in my opinion (expert) your diet and exercise plan is the single most dangerous thing I’ve ever seen suggested to anyone, let alone a beginner. I don’t even care if it is effective, it is flat out dangerous. If anyone came to me suggesting anything you do I would advise they stop immediately. Your diet is probably in the order of thousands of times more likely to give someone an acute infection as opposed to a more traditional diet (traditional meaning food cooked according to established sanitary guidelines).
I don’t think it’s worth playing around with infection to manipulate body weight, be primal, or whatever else your reasons are. I anticipate the rebuttal of “well I haven’t been sick yet,” and will reply with the fact that I do not care if you haven’t been sick yet. I equate it to speeding everywhere you go, except for that’s not even a good analogy. At least with speeding you’ll get places faster so there’s at least a measurable benefit.
The high rep nonsense is equally as bad. We’re now trading off the risk of infection for the risk of injury. Beginners don’t need 50 reps of squats in a single set. Beginners need to develop quality movement patterns so they can safely and efficiently progress in strength. Taking someone who hasn’t established proper movement and telling them to do something as many times as possible is extremely dangerous. Thankfully, no one will ever attempt your program so we won’t have to wait on the injury data.
Further, you are not an expert on anything. If you wanted to be an expert you wouldn’t be so flippant about certification or licensure. If you want to be an expert, then play ball like everyone else and get the proper certification and implement your program on real people. Not doing so is dangerous to the client. Licenses, certifications, insurance, etc all exist to protect the client, not the professional.[/quote]
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Well now you’ve just commented it out, so the thread is still open…
[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:
Unfortunately you also made claims (both implicit and explicit) about this being a good way to eat and train for performance and physique enhancement and then followed those claims up by saying you were an expert and pointing out that you try to sell your ideas to people. I’m pretty sure thats where you lost almost everyone. [/quote]
I only claimed to be an expert dieter and in nothing else.
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Expert dieter[/quote]
Hey, don’t bring me into this. It’s not like I’ve got years of experience getting myself and countless others (amateurs, professionals, everyday folk) into great shape without fail via proven (“expert?”) knowledge of dieting or anything.
Luckily we’ve got certain individuals providing “valuable information that’s a hell of a lot more scientifically valid” than what some credentialed people are putting out there.
(Anyone remember a former poster’s ranting about how he was trying to save people from “bad science?” -lol)
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What up Stu.
You need to start the Stu “Get Sexy and you know it” Program.
Broscience:
“A sarcastic term implying that the time-tested, muscle-building wealth of knowledge developed and utilized by successful, experienced bodybuilders is inferior to the continually shifting hypotheses of articulate, textbook-savvy 155-pound chemists with little or no real world first-person experience to substantiate their conclusions.”
OP, do you realize that almost all warm-blooded predators eat much more often than once very 3 days? Most big cats hunt twice a day. Wolves will try to eat daily if they can. That’s not to say they can’t go longer without eating if necessary. But these animals want to eat daily. And they are the healthiest and most able to reproduce when they are eating frequently.
So, unless your model is some sort of reptile predator, your system is based on a false premise. Of course, this, on its own, doesn’t mean that it isn’t a good program. But it comes off as ignorant when people make diets based on false premises (paleo comes to mind).
[quote]Silyak wrote:
OP, do you realize that almost all warm-blooded predators eat much more often than once very 3 days? Most big cats hunt twice a day. Wolves will try to eat daily if they can. That’s not to say they can’t go longer without eating if necessary. But these animals want to eat daily. And they are the healthiest and most able to reproduce when they are eating frequently.
So, unless your model is some sort of reptile predator, your system is based on a false premise. Of course, this, on its own, doesn’t mean that it isn’t a good program. But it comes off as ignorant when people make diets based on false premises (paleo comes to mind). [/quote]
I don’t think he ever did define what kind of predator he is trying to mimic.
[quote]Silyak wrote:
OP, do you realize that almost all warm-blooded predators eat much more often than once very 3 days? Most big cats hunt twice a day. Wolves will try to eat daily if they can. That’s not to say they can’t go longer without eating if necessary. But these animals want to eat daily. And they are the healthiest and most able to reproduce when they are eating frequently.
So, unless your model is some sort of reptile predator, your system is based on a false premise. Of course, this, on its own, doesn’t mean that it isn’t a good program. But it comes off as ignorant when people make diets based on false premises (paleo comes to mind). [/quote]
[quote]Silyak wrote:
OP, do you realize that almost all warm-blooded predators eat much more often than once very 3 days? Most big cats hunt twice a day. Wolves will try to eat daily if they can. That’s not to say they can’t go longer without eating if necessary. But these animals want to eat daily. And they are the healthiest and most able to reproduce when they are eating frequently.
So, unless your model is some sort of reptile predator, your system is based on a false premise. Of course, this, on its own, doesn’t mean that it isn’t a good program. But it comes off as ignorant when people make diets based on false premises (paleo comes to mind). [/quote]
I don’t think he ever did define what kind of predator he is trying to mimic. [/quote]
[quote]Silyak wrote:
OP, do you realize that almost all warm-blooded predators eat much more often than once very 3 days? Most big cats hunt twice a day. Wolves will try to eat daily if they can. That’s not to say they can’t go longer without eating if necessary. But these animals want to eat daily. And they are the healthiest and most able to reproduce when they are eating frequently.
So, unless your model is some sort of reptile predator, your system is based on a false premise. Of course, this, on its own, doesn’t mean that it isn’t a good program. But it comes off as ignorant when people make diets based on false premises (paleo comes to mind). [/quote]
I don’t think he ever did define what kind of predator he is trying to mimic. [/quote]
[quote]Silyak wrote:
OP, do you realize that almost all warm-blooded predators eat much more often than once very 3 days? Most big cats hunt twice a day. Wolves will try to eat daily if they can. That’s not to say they can’t go longer without eating if necessary. But these animals want to eat daily. And they are the healthiest and most able to reproduce when they are eating frequently.
So, unless your model is some sort of reptile predator, your system is based on a false premise. Of course, this, on its own, doesn’t mean that it isn’t a good program. But it comes off as ignorant when people make diets based on false premises (paleo comes to mind). [/quote]
I don’t think he ever did define what kind of predator he is trying to mimic. [/quote]
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hahahhahahahaahahaha okay this is the winner
May i ask what you aim to achieve through this experiment? Do you believe it is the optimal way to eat/live, are you looking to see if this is a sustainable way of eating or are you testing to see if it possible to survive on this diet?
My main concern with your ideas is you seem to be taking a correlation= causation point of view with it and not looking at the bigger picture. Yes lions may not need to ‘warm up’ before a chase. They also dont spend extended periods sat down, driving, on the sofa, in a nice, squishy comfortable bed and a mainly sedentary lifestyle. This is just one example, they also sleep the required amount, arent exposed to blue light 3/4 of the day, dont take showers in water that is far to hot, dont experience the low level, constant stress most human do in day to day life.
Throughout this experiment, will you be applying all aspects of a predators lifestyle to your own, or only this very narrow aspect? If so, do you believe this is sustainable not only for health but for actually living your life?
May i ask what you aim to achieve through this experiment? Do you believe it is the optimal way to eat/live, are you looking to see if this is a sustainable way of eating or are you testing to see if it possible to survive on this diet?
My main concern with your ideas is you seem to be taking a correlation= causation point of view with it and not looking at the bigger picture. Yes lions may not need to ‘warm up’ before a chase. They also dont spend extended periods sat down, driving, on the sofa, in a nice, squishy comfortable bed and a mainly sedentary lifestyle. This is just one example, they also sleep the required amount, arent exposed to blue light 3/4 of the day, dont take showers in water that is far to hot, dont experience the low level, constant stress most human do in day to day life.
Throughout this experiment, will you be applying all aspects of a predators lifestyle to your own, or only this very narrow aspect? If so, do you believe this is sustainable not only for health but for actually living your life?
Hope this doesnt come across as flameing.
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Your logic is invalid due to his logic is more valid.
Broscience:
“A sarcastic term implying that the time-tested, muscle-building wealth of knowledge developed and utilized by successful, experienced bodybuilders is inferior to the continually shifting hypotheses of articulate, textbook-savvy 155-pound chemists with little or no real world first-person experience to substantiate their conclusions.”
That’s far from what I meant from the usage of the word… To me it’s the oversimplification of principles based on what works for those already healthy and fit.
A prime example is the “eat less, exercise more” principle. For the obese who have altered brain chemistry, reduced leptin levels, and possibly diabetes energy utilization is much different than healthy counterparts. Understanding the complexity of the issue can help immensely.
Not saying it isn’t true for healthy adults, but the majority of the demographic that needs the most help aren’t healthy.
To me the “exercise more” is an example that also ignores form, tempo, periodization, etc. Getting to a strong physique is much more than exercise more too… Sure it’s the basic construct, but to really make progress you need more than haphazard lifting.
[quote]PureNsanity wrote:
To me the “exercise more” is an example that also ignores form, tempo, periodization, etc. Getting to a strong physique is much more than exercise more too[/quote]
Says the dude who has bad form, ignores/does not use periodization, and most certainty does not have a strong physique
