The Key to Growth

Something a friend of mine once said. Same guy went from 150 as a teen to 240ish now about about 6’2" and around 12-15% or so.

“GOD#*&$!!! Train like a freak! Your objective for training isn’t hitting some dumbazz number on a bench or a number of sets. . .it’s to hold a 45 caliber pistol to the muscle and say GROW B%#TCH!”

Simply stated: “Squats and Milk”.

There’s a lot of truism in that.
Step 1: Consume a lot of high quality nutrients (back then MILK was actually milk…not the pseudo-food it is today). I doubt you’ll grow on Twinkies. I know you’ll grow on meat, potatos, veggies, more meat, more potatos, more veggies…

Step 2: Train. Not many people know how to really train. Most of us pretend to train, few of us have actually met the reaper, slapped him in the face, bent him over the bench and made him your bitch.

Sounds like a hardcore thing to say, but how useful is what you just wrote?

ummm…thanks!?!

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::puts down twinkle and milk and walks right out of this thread::

I want to look like brad pitt in fight club, should i follow the same eating/workout guidelines???

I sometimes write just to hear myself think…

“You can give people the tools for success. However, success is intimidating to those who have never experienced it.”

I think sometimes we overeducate ourselves to death, we think too much about ancillary things. Just a general comment. It would take less than a page to write what is really needed to reach your goals, be they muscle growth, strength, leanness etc…but that doesn’t sell. Probably 90% of the people I see in the gym everyday and on this board dripping with enthusiasm over the “next big thing” just need to sit down, shut up, and experience the art and science of conditioning your body instead of reading about it.

Parts of this site, other sites, articles here and elsewhere, supposed higher education, just the attitude that 90% of the people have…really just makes me physically ill. I know some trainers making 100k a year who can’t train their way out of a paper bag, look like shit, but are supposedly ‘successful’ because it’s not what you know that matters, it’s not what works that matters, it’s what you can convince people of that matters. That’s a sad sad realization. I know people who trye very protocol in the book, have masters degrees and PhDs but can’t do shit with it on themselves or others. I have BS Ex.Sci and couple certs. I’ve read everything there is to read from every ‘expert’ you can think of, but my real education came from the process of changing my body and talkiing to other people who have made dramatic changes.

Lots of people workout, few actually make measureable changes. Why is this? Bad programming? Bad diet? Gaining muscle is systematic. All sorts of people have gained muscled, changed their physical conditioning using all sorts of ways. I think all this overfocus on other things: Overtraining, being balanced, sleep, stress, nutrition…overcomplicates the issue.

We want to make it complex. That’s how people are. That’s how athletes are be they runners, lifters, football players, etc. At the end of the day you either get it or you don’t. You either force your body to grow, to change, etc, or you don’t. Look at the Biggest Loser. Many of these people have tried weight loss techniques, weight watchers, eating better, exercise, etc, but they didn’t get it, they didn’t have it in them to really do what is needed to see physical changes. At that point, at that stage of obesity it’s not about diet and exercise, it’s about a singled minded purpose to force upon you to change.

Thanks for the update! Btw if your friend was 150 at 6’2", that’s one skinny motherfucker! Was he anorexic, and magically discover the wonder supplement “food” on his road to 240?

Mike Boyle said squats are bad, and im lactoce intolerant.

EDIT: Can I do lunges and soy milk? Also, I dont like to make my muslces angry.

My friend just lifted. Got together with some bigger dudes, ate food, lifted hard. Of course he was in his magically anabolic teen years.

Hmmm…lift with guys bigger than you…eat lots of good food…where have I heard that before…:wink:

[quote]BantamRunner wrote:
My friend just lifted. Got together with some bigger dudes, ate food, lifted hard. Of course he was in his magically anabolic teen years.

Hmmm…lift with guys bigger than you…eat lots of good food…where have I heard that before…;)[/quote]

Have you been “smoking” again? Cause you seem very inciteful/deep today :slight_smile:

I used to train with a guy who was bigger than me and had 15+ years experience - who taught me to take every set, no matter what set (even “warm ups”) to failure, do drop sets, every intensitifier imaginable for EVERYTHING. He taught me all the “valuable information” he’d read from the magazines dating back to the 80’s. Burned me out in weeks, and he wondered why he was bigger than me? Funny enough, he only ever had 3-4 weeks consistency before retiring for 5-6 weeks again. I wonder why? I wonder why, even though he was big and lifted more than me, I wonder why he only made 100lbs progress on some lifts in over 15 years? In his whole 15+ years of training, he looks impressive, but only because he was already 200lbs plus BEFORE even weight lifting.

He also chastised me for not touching the bar on my nipple every time I did benching…being a formerly lanky trainee, my strength decreased by like 60lbs, and I got a bad shoulder injury for 3 months.

Bad example I know, but just shows, you still got to be wary.

Ah Ha! Don’t confuse intensity with results. Further more, don’t confuse external intensity with internal focus.

Running headfirst into a wall you will eventually break the wall down, but you probably won’t be conscious aftewards. You still need direction, a program of sorts, but that will fail you without internal focus.

I see guys training everyday. Many haven’t grown since childbirth. Many are “walking through” their workout.

Drops sets till failure is only a method, it’s not the Colt .45. The Colt .45 pointed at your head isn’t the program isn’t the method you’re using, it’s the internal focus on the muscle contracting.

Learn to make yourself sweat with 10 reps of a 10lb dumbbell curl and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Transfer that focus to your heavy ass liftin and you’ve got it.

[quote]BantamRunner wrote:
Ah Ha! Don’t confuse intensity with results. Further more, don’t confuse external intensity with internal focus.

Running headfirst into a wall you will eventually break the wall down, but you probably won’t be conscious aftewards. You still need direction, a program of sorts, but that will fail you without internal focus.

I see guys training everyday. Many haven’t grown since childbirth. Many are “walking through” their workout.

Drops sets till failure is only a method, it’s not the Colt .45. The Colt .45 pointed at your head isn’t the program isn’t the method you’re using, it’s the internal focus on the muscle contracting.

Learn to make yourself sweat with 10 reps of a 10lb dumbbell curl and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Transfer that focus to your heavy ass liftin and you’ve got it.[/quote]

Exactly, intensity is a “means to an end”, not the goal per se. Took me ages to work that one out LOL.