[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]jeremielemauvais wrote:
Just throw up another picture of your lat spread, thatāll shut him up!
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
Lol at āhardcoreā, being a fat cunt with no mobility must be mega hardcore.[/quote]
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Who is this directed towards? Ha ha ha[/quote]
My youtubes are screwed up, so maybe I missed it, but he didnāt explicitly state that he didnāt use- did he?
All I saw was that the dude offered and he thought that they were expensive, then he bought some noodles.
Slightly tangential- Whats up with telling kids you are trying to help what substances are commonly available, will do the trick, what it is called and how much it should not cost?
He might as well have said āDonāt pay twenty bucks a tablet for d-bol.ā.
To further the ālying about it is worse than doing itā aspect of the conversation, itās really on different than when famous people (particularly women) do a cover photo shoot, have it significantly altered, and then do a 4 page article on how to look like .
The fact is, the general public knows this person works out and eats good, yada yada yada, but at the same time, this person presents a body image that is completely unattainable to the general public without some assistance (in this case photshop). Yet youāll have thousands of little girls trying to get this body image that theyāll never get b/c they donāt know how to seperate the good (workout and eat right and youāll look good) with the bad (the unattainable body). So they start to eat right and workout and start looking good, but never coming close to that cover photo. So now you start seeing extreme things like 500 calorie diets, diet pills, running 2 hours a day, etc.
This isnāt directed specifically at Kali, but I can see impressionable sheeple (well over half of the US population) becoming obsessed about not being able to attain a so called natural body type, even after putting in all the hard and consistent work on diet and exercise.
[quote]jeremielemauvais wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]jeremielemauvais wrote:
Just throw up another picture of your lat spread, thatāll shut him up!
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
Lol at āhardcoreā, being a fat cunt with no mobility must be mega hardcore.[/quote]
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Who is this directed towards? Ha ha ha[/quote]
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Iām saying he or anyone really shouldnāt just be dismissed because there are, āBetter BBs,ā (according to some, but that havenāt been named yet) Out there.
I mean should we ignore Lou Ferrigno because Arnold beat him? Or Columbu since he was in Arnoldās shadow basically his whole career?
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Personally the reason I dismiss him is because I hate his loud personality. Doesnāt that mean I wouldnāt be able to possibly learn something no just means I can listen long enough for that to happen. Iād rather learn from others who convey the same information but in a better more well thought out manner. Personal preference. And since I feel I need to spell everything out so I donāt get called out for hating on himā¦I respect what he has accomplished. He is a beast as I have said multiple times [/quote]
If you donāt like Kali and donāt want to listen that 100% fine.
All I did was ask that other guy who if not Kali. Thatās all I did. How all this other BS happened is a mystery to me. [/quote]
To the above post I agree its individual.
No idea who others like to listen to but for me. You need to have worked hard and accomplished a lot and be able,to speak coherently and back up why you did what you did. Some scientific stuff helps just because I think thatās fun.
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I have learned a great deal from guys who you might think didnāt speak ācoherentlyā enough for you.
Bodybuilding isnāt just about who makes the best presentation or class experience.[/quote]
All I am saying is there are very few amazing revelations in bbing. Itās really pretty straight forward and Iād rather listen to someone like i described. [/quote]
That is all fine and well.
However, most of the really big guys will tell you, it has never been about some new ārevelationā or some new technique.
What you should be looking to these guys for is the work ethic it took for them to get thereā¦and in that, you can learn something from every really big guy out there.
Ignoring that and discounting the value of that will only hurt yourself in the longrunā¦and anyone else who really thinks they are that much above other people based on how well they speak or whatever.
Thatās just the truth.
And it still doesnāt explain why we arenāt allowed to discuss guys like this here without the nonsense, insults and jokes.[/quote]
Plz point me to where I said anything negative about his work ethic. Work ethic to get to the top of anything profession is a given. And also thatās not something you learn. You have it of you donāt
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
This isnāt directed specifically at Kali, but I can see impressionable sheeple (well over half of the US population) becoming obsessed about not being able to attain a so called natural body type, even after putting in all the hard and consistent work on diet and exercise.[/quote]
This seems like a very weak claim. Few people would look like him when he was just getting out of jail even if they spent their whole lives working outā¦EVEN IF THEY USED STEROIDS.
That is why that argument doesnāt fly.
Genetics are still at the base of this and most of the people truly āupsetā arenāt exactly āone cycle of testā away from looking like the people they are upset at.
Seriously, every guy here could use steroids and never look like Kali does right nowā¦so why the HUGE focus on that in exclusion of the progress made?
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
My youtubes are screwed up, so maybe I missed it, but he didnāt explicitly state that he didnāt use- did he?
All I saw was that the dude offered and he thought that they were expensive, then he bought some noodles.
Slightly tangential- Whats up with telling kids you are trying to help what substances are commonly available, will do the trick, what it is called and how much it should not cost?
He might as well have said āDonāt pay twenty bucks a tablet for d-bol.ā.
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Hes got a whole video ranting on his natty-ness
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
Lol at āhardcoreā, being a fat cunt with no mobility must be mega hardcore.[/quote]
Only a skinny asshole under 200lbs would say that 
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Plz point me to where I said anything negative about his work ethic. Work ethic to get to the top of anything profession is a given. And also thatās not something you learn. You have it of you donāt [/quote]
You didnāt have to say anything negative about his work ethic. You stated that āI dismiss himāā¦which means you arenāt even looking at his work ethic.
Also, no, it is not just a given. Everything down to why certain schemes worked for him and not someone else can further your own advancement.
You said āI dismiss himāā¦and all others are saying is that to do that to anyone who has truly built that much massā¦only holds yourself back in the long run if reaching your potential in muscle size is the goal.
You truly have nothing to disagree with here.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
My youtubes are screwed up, so maybe I missed it, but he didnāt explicitly state that he didnāt use- did he?
All I saw was that the dude offered and he thought that they were expensive, then he bought some noodles.
Slightly tangential- Whats up with telling kids you are trying to help what substances are commonly available, will do the trick, what it is called and how much it should not cost?
He might as well have said āDonāt pay twenty bucks a tablet for d-bol.ā.
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Hes got a whole video ranting on his natty-ness[/quote]
Bullshit. He has a JOKE VIDEO where he acts like he is discussing steroids and proceeds to using a juicer for orange juice.
Big difference between that and the accusations like he is saying he is all natural. Please with that bs.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Plz point me to where I said anything negative about his work ethic. Work ethic to get to the top of anything profession is a given. And also thatās not something you learn. You have it of you donāt [/quote]
You didnāt have to say anything negative about his work ethic. You stated that āI dismiss himāā¦which means you arenāt even looking at his work ethic.
Also, no, it is not just a given. Everything down to why certain schemes worked for him and not someone else can further your own advancement.
You said āI dismiss himāā¦and all others are saying is that to do that to anyone who has truly built that much massā¦only holds yourself back in the long run if reaching your potential in muscle size is the goal.
You truly have nothing to disagree with here.[/quote]
Your reading comprehsion is shit.
I said multiple times in here he is beast and respect what he has done. I said I refuse to listen to what he has to say because of how he conveys it. Now please proceed to mis understand everything.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
I said I refuse to listen to what he has to say because of how he conveys it. [/quote]
You seem to really think these types of responses make you look āwittyā?
They donāt.
If you refuse to listen to anything he has to say, that is dismissing him. These word games are tiresome.
I just thought this was a really cool picture.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
I said I refuse to listen to what he has to say because of how he conveys it. [/quote]
You seem to really think these types of responses make you look āwittyā?
They donāt.
If you refuse to listen to anything he has to say, that is dismissing him. These word games are tiresome.[/quote]
Iām not playing word games you are. Iām stating one thing. You interpret how ever want. And yes I was trying to seem witty. Give me a fucking break. Go eat a burger. You contribute jack shit to these threads. Whine about it being derailed yet you are the one derailing it and beating the dead horse gtfo
[quote]Waittz wrote:
I just thought this was a really cool picture. [/quote]
Both guys looking jacked
Crazy that itās come to this, thereās a large number of people who came to a thread about somebody that they donāt like, believe or respect. You could have just stayed out. I havenāt been impressed by any of the people that put him down, and his videos have been some of the most helpful videos to me.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
I just thought this was a really cool picture. [/quote]
Both guys looking jacked [/quote]
Why are you downplaying their accomplishments? It is insulting to diminish them like that, it is obvious that both guys are looking Jack3d ryanā¦
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Crazy that itās come to this, thereās a large number of people who came to a thread about somebody that they donāt like, believe or respect. You could have just stayed out. I havenāt been impressed by any of the people that put him down, and his videos have been some of the most helpful videos to me.[/quote]
This completely.
The people putting him down arenāt exactly taking his place any time soon.
Instead of avoiding a thread of the guy you have no respect for (or specifically donāt think speaks well enough for you)ā¦you come here to make jokes?
Yet they donāt see themselves as trolls.
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
I just thought this was a really cool picture. [/quote]
Both guys looking jacked [/quote]
Why are you downplaying their accomplishments? It is insulting to diminish them like that, it is obvious that both guys are looking Jack3d ryanā¦ [/quote]
Manly because I am an asshole and just want insult everyone
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
I just thought this was a really cool picture. [/quote]
Both guys looking jacked [/quote]
Why are you downplaying their accomplishments? It is insulting to diminish them like that, it is obvious that both guys are looking Jack3d ryanā¦ [/quote]
Manly because I am an asshole and just want insult everyone[/quote]
Yeah, you should probably work on that character flaw.