The Kali Muscle Story

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
I just thought this was a really cool picture. [/quote]
Both guys looking jacked [/quote]

Why are you downplaying their accomplishments? It is insulting to diminish them like that, it is obvious that both guys are looking Jack3d ryan… [/quote]

Manly because I am an asshole and just want insult everyone[/quote]

Yeah, you should probably work on that character flaw. [/quote]

I should but its so fun to just tear ppl down. It makes me feel better about myself

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
I just thought this was a really cool picture. [/quote]
Both guys looking jacked [/quote]

Why are you downplaying their accomplishments? It is insulting to diminish them like that, it is obvious that both guys are looking Jack3d ryan… [/quote]
LOLOL

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
While I am amused at Kali’s self professed Ramen-enhanced physique, I’m never going to understand the ridiculous amount of people in this day and age that feel their opinions are of such importance that they need to call each other out on youtube.

S[/quote]

Ratings.

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Only a skinny asshole under 200lbs would say that :wink: [/quote]

I used to buy in to this mentality, especially with Rip’s, “you aren’t a man unless you are over 200lbs.” That’s a good goal, but not at the fat levels a lot of folks are at to “be there”. I’ll get there eventually at a solid leanness, but the whole poundage argument is stupid.

this is exactly like the 495lb incline thread

someone tells blatant lie

sensible people: this is some bullshit…

profx: who cares hes big.

sensible people: so now he can lie because hes big?

profx: dude, who cares hes 3 times your size yous are lame with this shit.

sensible people: again what is wrong with calling out someone who is clearly bull shitting?

profX: yous are haters he has clearly accomplished more than you. you dont see me doing this shit, people who call others out aren’t hardcore and are unimpressive.

fucking come on…

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
this is exactly like the 495lb incline thread

someone tells blatant lie

sensible people: this is some bullshit…

profx: who cares hes big.

sensible people: so now he can lie because hes big?

profx: dude, who cares hes 3 times your size yous are lame with this shit.

sensible people: again what is wrong with calling out someone who is clearly bull shitting?

profX: yous are haters he has clearly accomplished more than you. you dont see me doing this shit, people who call others out aren’t hardcore and are unimpressive.

fucking come on… [/quote]

It’s eerie how well people can get X’s personality down to a “T”.


Chuck Basher

he’ll singlehandedly bring down the multitrillion dollar preworkout 300 mgs caffeine + some bs powder supplement industry

actually it’s only a matter of time until they come out with a hyphy mud supplement

[quote]Velvet Elvis wrote:
I think guys just get frustrated when huge guys go out of their way to proclaim “natty” status …
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FTR, I like Kali Muscle.

there are numerous more videos where he just talks shit and lies about his drug uses…

this isn’t not talking about steroids for legal reasons, this is making a fucking video to blatantly lie to everyone. people like him are fucking pathetic!

also NO im not a hater… he has a good physique. But the arrogance that he displays by saying shit like i was bigger than all you mother fuckers at 21 natty (when i highly doubt he was even natty back then) is just really laughable and pathetic…

also does this man even speak coherent english?

I like the way he says trapezius.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ZJStrope wrote:

This isn’t directed specifically at Kali, but I can see impressionable sheeple (well over half of the US population) becoming obsessed about not being able to attain a so called natural body type, even after putting in all the hard and consistent work on diet and exercise.[/quote]

This seems like a very weak claim. Few people would look like him when he was just getting out of jail even if they spent their whole lives working out…EVEN IF THEY USED STEROIDS.

That is why that argument doesn’t fly.

Genetics are still at the base of this and most of the people truly “upset” aren’t exactly “one cycle of test” away from looking like the people they are upset at.

Seriously, every guy here could use steroids and never look like Kali does right now…so why the HUGE focus on that in exclusion of the progress made?[/quote]

We’ll never know though, will we? Since we don’t know how long or when he used steroids, we’ll never know what he should have looked like. This isn’t claiming he would have worked at any it any differently or to downplay the hard work he still had to put in to look like that, but now we have reasonable doubt about what he WOULD have looked like sans steroids.

Another example, Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire. Leaders of the pack pre-steroid days, but not beheamouths. Take some steroids and pretty much no one, except other steroid users, could come close.

Let’s say we never found out they were on steroids. Now you have all these professional baseball players, nearly as good as those two were prior to their steroid use, who’ll now never compete. They do everything they can naturally to try to match them and can’t do it. Ok, well I’ll just take some roids and continue training hard to give me an edge b/c I can never compete with these supposidly “natural” guys if I don’t.

See how this snowballs?

Again, if you are on roids, claim it so people can at least get some perspective.

When you are out in the general public world and trying to get into acting, openly admitting to illegal drug use isn’t that smart of a plan.
Just sayin.

Not admitting to the world that you’re a habitual drug user (steroids almost daily)because it would negatively impact your career (acting/fitness) makes sense but going way out of your way to make videos (not the actual juicing one. That was hilarious IMO) about your natty status isn’t cool.

There really isn’t a good option in this scenario, I’m just surprised that anyone would actually think that his physique is attainable naturally.

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
When you are out in the general public world and trying to get into acting, openly admitting to illegal drug use isn’t that smart of a plan.
Just sayin.

Not admitting to the world that you’re a habitual drug user (steroids almost daily)because it would negatively impact your career (acting/fitness) makes sense but going way out of your way to make videos (not the actual juicing one. That was hilarious IMO) about your natty status isn’t cool.

There really isn’t a good option in this scenario, I’m just surprised that anyone would actually think that his physique is attainable naturally.[/quote]
Dude you can practically just speak for me all the time lol.

The best thing guys like Kali can do is to just ignore the issue and ignore the trolls to the best of their ability.

I’m a huge Kali fan, but it’s so incredibly awkward to see him on one of his natty crusade videos…

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Crazy that it’s come to this, there’s a large number of people who came to a thread about somebody that they don’t like, believe or respect. You could have just stayed out. I haven’t been impressed by any of the people that put him down, and his videos have been some of the most helpful videos to me.[/quote]

This completely.

The people putting him down aren’t exactly taking his place any time soon.

Instead of avoiding a thread of the guy you have no respect for (or specifically don’t think speaks well enough for you)…you come here to make jokes?

Yet they don’t see themselves as trolls.[/quote]

X, how much experience do you have hanging out with large and diverse groups of people?

Are they all perfectly behaved, non-judgmental choir boys who are always minding their own business?

If they’re not, how do you deal with them?

Does anyone here even have an inclination to take his place? Do they give a shit?

So I won’t be a ripped, 260 pound bodybuilder. What a letdown.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
I said I refuse to listen to what he has to say because of how he conveys it. [/quote]

You seem to really think these types of responses make you look “witty”?

They don’t.

If you refuse to listen to anything he has to say, that is dismissing him. These word games are tiresome.[/quote]

Anything wrong with dismissing a You Tube video?

[quote] Professor X wrote:

Seriously, every guy here could use steroids and never look like Kali does right now…so why the HUGE focus on that in exclusion of the progress made? [/quote]

Because his progress is EVIDENT by looking at him! No one looks like him without a huge amount of progress being made from significantly smaller and weaker body and anyone with half a brain understands that it takes a years of training, great genetics, drugs, and dedication to look like him.

But what is everyone supposed to do every time we see a big man–say “Progress has been made” or “OMG, that guy is so big” or “I thought I was big, but then when I stood next to him at the Arnold, I felt like a toddler” or “Me so small; me have work to do”.

It’s amazing how you expect people to behave and ignore the fact that gossip is pretty much the oldest pastime and that even some of the best behaved and least intrusive people partake some times. And to think that you’re going to get everyone interested or the slightest bit involved in bodybuilding are not going to partake is HYSTERICAL considering that the fitness industry is riddled with gossip and unsavory behavior. Just what are you going to do about it–tame an entire message board?

Have you ever dealt with the public in any form?

[quote]ZJStrope wrote:

Another example, Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire. Leaders of the pack pre-steroid days, but not beheamouths. Take some steroids and pretty much no one, except other steroid users, could come close.[/quote]

You serious? Did you really just make a statement that to reach the size of Barry Bonds takes steroids?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ZJStrope wrote:

Another example, Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire. Leaders of the pack pre-steroid days, but not beheamouths. Take some steroids and pretty much no one, except other steroid users, could come close.[/quote]

You serious? Did you really just make a statement that to reach the size of Barry Bonds takes steroids?[/quote]
Barry did end up getting pretty big in his home run hitting prime.