He’d probably lose alot of his following if he told people he was using gear. Not to mention what it might do to his acting career, or endorsements. Obviously not natty though
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
I asked who? I didn’t agree or disagree I asked who should T-Nation give there attention too.
As for an answer to your question. I think success leaves clues and I think failure leaves clues. I’m sure every single person here could learn something from Kali. [/quote]
Perhaps, but I haven’t seen one video in which the guy says anything of any consequence on training or nutrition. But then again , you have a point because so few do anyway these days. And who can blame the makers of these videos. Other than information for noobs, there’s nothing else to say these days. Supplements don’t deliver magic. Getting big involves eating enough protein and calories. Cutting down requires more activity and caloric restriction. In a nutshell, there’s nothing left to say; hence we see You Tube circle jerks and other shenanigans involving calling out liars (natty vs. drug aided), and discussing training and eating as if they are as sophisticated as Talmud interpretation or physics and guys making videos of daily activities such as walking around a grocery store or eating food in a kitchen. [/quote]
Ya, I’m not quite as cynical, but I pretty much agree. We aren’t reinventing the wheel here folks.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
I asked who? I didn’t agree or disagree I asked who should T-Nation give there attention too.
As for an answer to your question. I think success leaves clues and I think failure leaves clues. I’m sure every single person here could learn something from Kali. [/quote]
Perhaps, but I haven’t seen one video in which the guy says anything of any consequence on training or nutrition. But then again , you have a point because so few do anyway these days. And who can blame the makers of these videos. Other than information for noobs, there’s nothing else to say these days. Supplements don’t deliver magic. Getting big involves eating enough protein and calories. Cutting down requires more activity and caloric restriction. In a nutshell, there’s nothing left to say; hence we see You Tube circle jerks and other shenanigans involving calling out liars (natty vs. drug aided), and discussing training and eating as if they are as sophisticated as Talmud interpretation or physics and guys making videos of daily activities such as walking around a grocery store or eating food in a kitchen. [/quote]
Ya, I’m not quite as cynical, but I pretty much agree. We aren’t reinventing the wheel here folks. [/quote]
I know, I don’t wish this jadedness on anyone. I long for the days when all this was fresh. I’ve tried to recreate the feeling, but it’s not working. 
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I would much rather focus on this guy’s development than spend time ripping his image over more steroid use issues.
Honestly, if you follow bodybuilding today and waste any time at all on things like this, all you are doing is jumping on the same hater train you see only on the internet lately.
Too much negativity in an activity all about pushing the envelope as far as physique.[/quote]
Steroid use is not a negative why do say that. This site is not the general public. I know the general public frowns on it. I like to think the people that frequent this site are on a different level.
Just above your post I said he looks like a beast [/quote]
Derek explained this to you before and you ignored it and acted like he didn’t know what he was talking about.
I won’t waste time repeating that. Go read his post to you about this very thing in the Get a life forum and you will see exactly how I feel as well.
[/quote]
Lol I didn’t ignore him I agreed with him and we had a grown up discussion. Something you fail at
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I would much rather focus on this guy’s development than spend time ripping his image over more steroid use issues.
Honestly, if you follow bodybuilding today and waste any time at all on things like this, all you are doing is jumping on the same hater train you see only on the internet lately.
Too much negativity in an activity all about pushing the envelope as far as physique.[/quote]
Anyone hate anyone or anything discussed here?
I don’t feel the slightest bit of hate for Kali. Granted I have some hate for some things and people as anyone else does, but it’s an unpleasant emotion. I think I have hate for talk of robbing grandparents because one wouldn’t be or couldn’t obtain employment as a stripper though.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
I asked who? I didn’t agree or disagree I asked who should T-Nation give there attention too.
As for an answer to your question. I think success leaves clues and I think failure leaves clues. I’m sure every single person here could learn something from Kali. [/quote]
Good post…
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, acting like people posting “Lie” gifs isn’t negative is strange.[/quote]
You ever consider some people use a forum for fun and humor rather than behave like Western Civilization depends on a damn hobby or sport. [/quote]
Can we make fun of natural bodybuilding now?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
I asked who? I didn’t agree or disagree I asked who should T-Nation give there attention too.
As for an answer to your question. I think success leaves clues and I think failure leaves clues. I’m sure every single person here could learn something from Kali. [/quote]
Perhaps, but I haven’t seen one video in which the guy says anything of any consequence on training or nutrition. But then again , you have a point because so few do anyway these days. And who can blame the makers of these videos. Other than information for noobs, there’s nothing else to say these days. Supplements don’t deliver magic. Getting big involves eating enough protein and calories. Cutting down requires more activity and caloric restriction. In a nutshell, there’s nothing left to say; hence we see You Tube circle jerks and other shenanigans involving calling out liars (natty vs. drug aided), and discussing training and eating as if they are as sophisticated as Talmud interpretation or physics and guys making videos of daily activities such as walking around a grocery store or eating food in a kitchen. [/quote]
Ya, I’m not quite as cynical, but I pretty much agree. We aren’t reinventing the wheel here folks. [/quote]
But it still doesn’t answer the question…
If everything has been said and done…why is it seen as useless to discuss this lifter at all?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, acting like people posting “Lie” gifs isn’t negative is strange.[/quote]
You ever consider some people use a forum for fun and humor rather than behave like Western Civilization depends on a damn hobby or sport. [/quote]
Can we make fun of natural bodybuilding now?[/quote]
Yes
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, acting like people posting “Lie” gifs isn’t negative is strange.[/quote]
You ever consider some people use a forum for fun and humor rather than behave like Western Civilization depends on a damn hobby or sport. [/quote]
Can we make fun of natural bodybuilding now?[/quote]
Yes[/quote]
Please. If I made the slightest non-congratulatory post about a natural bodybuilder, everyone would be on page 50 of a bitch-fest…but Brick is here laughing at guys with arms twice as big as his body…
What the fuck is wrong with this picture?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, acting like people posting “Lie” gifs isn’t negative is strange.[/quote]
You ever consider some people use a forum for fun and humor rather than behave like Western Civilization depends on a damn hobby or sport. [/quote]
Can we make fun of natural bodybuilding now?[/quote]
I’m up for it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, acting like people posting “Lie” gifs isn’t negative is strange.[/quote]
You ever consider some people use a forum for fun and humor rather than behave like Western Civilization depends on a damn hobby or sport. [/quote]
Can we make fun of natural bodybuilding now?[/quote]
Why would you make fun of something that doesn’t exist?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[.but Brick is here laughing at guys with arms twice as big as his body…
[/quote]
Not necessarily laughing at anyone, just more amused by a 260-pound, ripped-to-the-bone, 405-bench-repping man claiming natural and saying that “robbin’ yo mama, grandmoms, granddad” is a viable alternative to lack of employment as a stripper and showing off his “sag”. Not sure where arm size fits into all this.
I actually used to like Kali a bit. Some aspects of his personality are quite likable.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, acting like people posting “Lie” gifs isn’t negative is strange.[/quote]
You ever consider some people use a forum for fun and humor rather than behave like Western Civilization depends on a damn hobby or sport. [/quote]
Can we make fun of natural bodybuilding now?[/quote]
Yes[/quote]
I go first.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
I asked who? I didn’t agree or disagree I asked who should T-Nation give there attention too.
As for an answer to your question. I think success leaves clues and I think failure leaves clues. I’m sure every single person here could learn something from Kali. [/quote]
This…still not answered.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, acting like people posting “Lie” gifs isn’t negative is strange.[/quote]
You ever consider some people use a forum for fun and humor rather than behave like Western Civilization depends on a damn hobby or sport. [/quote]
Can we make fun of natural bodybuilding now?[/quote]
Yes[/quote]
Please. If I made the slightest non-congratulatory post about a natural bodybuilder, everyone would be on page 50 of a bitch-fest…but Brick is here laughing at guys with arms twice as big as his body…
What the fuck is wrong with this picture?[/quote]
Really? That’s what would happen? Looks like we are rolling already
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
I asked who? I didn’t agree or disagree I asked who should T-Nation give there attention too.
As for an answer to your question. I think success leaves clues and I think failure leaves clues. I’m sure every single person here could learn something from Kali. [/quote]
This…still not answered.
[/quote]
I can’t multi quote but brick answered its towards the top of the page. Quite trying to just randomly argue. We have moved on to making fun of natty bbing like you wanted to
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
I asked who? I didn’t agree or disagree I asked who should T-Nation give there attention too.
As for an answer to your question. I think success leaves clues and I think failure leaves clues. I’m sure every single person here could learn something from Kali. [/quote]
This…still not answered.
[/quote]
I can’t multi quote but brick answered its towards the top of the page. Quite trying to just randomly argue. We have moved on to making fun of natty bbing like you wanted to [/quote]
It wasn’t directed at Brick. Why is he or you answering for someone else?
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
I asked who? I didn’t agree or disagree I asked who should T-Nation give there attention too.
As for an answer to your question. I think success leaves clues and I think failure leaves clues. I’m sure every single person here could learn something from Kali. [/quote]
This…still not answered.
[/quote]
I can’t multi quote but brick answered its towards the top of the page. Quite trying to just randomly argue. We have moved on to making fun of natty bbing like you wanted to [/quote]
Just ignore him.
He’s bored and wants to argue with anyone.
He’s back to his same old crap.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
I asked who? I didn’t agree or disagree I asked who should T-Nation give there attention too.
As for an answer to your question. I think success leaves clues and I think failure leaves clues. I’m sure every single person here could learn something from Kali. [/quote]
This…still not answered.
[/quote]
I can’t multi quote but brick answered its towards the top of the page. Quite trying to just randomly argue. We have moved on to making fun of natty bbing like you wanted to [/quote]
It wasn’t directed at Brick. Why is he or you answering for someone else?[/quote]
Did I answer it? No
And lol so you don’t really care about the answer then. Good to know