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Never realized Tuna and Ramen was so anabolic… explains my college gainzzzzz
[quote]Waittz wrote:
Never realized Tuna and Ramen was so anabolic… explains my college gainzzzzz [/quote]
Explains my lack of gainz. I don’t really eat either of them.
I can’t watch this guy lift. All he does is scream. Absolutely stupid. He is a beast though
I would much rather focus on this guy’s development than spend time ripping his image over more steroid use issues.
Honestly, if you follow bodybuilding today and waste any time at all on things like this, all you are doing is jumping on the same hater train you see only on the internet lately.
Too much negativity in an activity all about pushing the envelope as far as physique.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I would much rather focus on this guy’s development than spend time ripping his image over more steroid use issues.
Honestly, if you follow bodybuilding today and waste any time at all on things like this, all you are doing is jumping on the same hater train you see only on the internet lately.
Too much negativity in an activity all about pushing the envelope as far as physique.[/quote]
Steroid use is not a negative why do say that. This site is not the general public. I know the general public frowns on it. I like to think the people that frequent this site are on a different level.
Just above your post I said he looks like a beast
He obviously uses steroids; anyone claiming otherwise is ignorant. As has already been said multiple times in this thread, most all top physiques (both at a pro BB level, physique competitors, supplement-sponsored athletes, etc) all use steroids to some degree. Aside from the obvious fact that steroids are illegal and that is reason enough not to admit their use, look at it from a more practical point of view. Companies don’t want their sponsored athletes (whether it’s Jay Cutler w/ m-tech or some random athlete sponsored by some random supp company) admitting to steroid use because that is bad for business. It’s all marketing.
Companies WANT people to believe that by taking their protein powder, or post workout maximum gainz formula or uber shredded fat burner that you can look like the guy, or girl, who is endorsing said product. If I’m attempting to make a living based upon the way I look, there is no way in hell I’m admitting to steroid use because that just effectively nixed any chance of supplement companies or muscle magazines sponsoring me.
Who gives a fuck that anyone takes or doesn’t take steroids; the amount of work that goes into any of their physiques, both in the gym and kitchen, nullifies their use of PEDS. This isn’t some pro sports market where everyone wants a level playing field. Steroid use IS the level playing field for most BBers wanting sponsorships or acting gigs or whatever. That’s just the way it is, so get off your high horse about how angry you are just because they don’t want to jeopardize their source of income.
The majority of people being marketed are not guys on bodybuilding and powerlifting forums who are more accepting about PEDs, they are people who share the rest of society’s negative view of steroids.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I would much rather focus on this guy’s development than spend time ripping his image over more steroid use issues.
Honestly, if you follow bodybuilding today and waste any time at all on things like this, all you are doing is jumping on the same hater train you see only on the internet lately.
Too much negativity in an activity all about pushing the envelope as far as physique.[/quote]
Steroid use is not a negative why do say that. This site is not the general public. I know the general public frowns on it. I like to think the people that frequent this site are on a different level.
Just above your post I said he looks like a beast [/quote]
Derek explained this to you before and you ignored it and acted like he didn’t know what he was talking about.
I won’t waste time repeating that. Go read his post to you about this very thing in the Get a life forum and you will see exactly how I feel as well.
Also, acting like people posting “Lie” gifs isn’t negative is strange.
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
??
So you don’t think we should value anyone else in regard to muscularity in bodybuilding because “other PRO bbers deliver it better”?
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
I asked who? I didn’t agree or disagree I asked who should T-Nation give there attention too.
As for an answer to your question. I think success leaves clues and I think failure leaves clues. I’m sure every single person here could learn something from Kali.
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
Well he did say “robbin’ yo mama, yo grandma, yo grandpa” were viable alternatives to stripping.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, acting like people posting “Lie” gifs isn’t negative is strange.[/quote]
You ever consider some people use a forum for fun and humor rather than behave like Western Civilization depends on a damn hobby or sport.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, acting like people posting “Lie” gifs isn’t negative is strange.[/quote]
You ever consider some people use a forum for fun and humor rather than behave like Western Civilization depends on a damn hobby or sport. [/quote]
You ever consider that people with extreme forums goals may not want to settle for fun and humor?
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, acting like people posting “Lie” gifs isn’t negative is strange.[/quote]
You ever consider some people use a forum for fun and humor rather than behave like Western Civilization depends on a damn hobby or sport. [/quote]
You ever consider that people with extreme forums goals may not want to settle for fun and humor? [/quote]
Yeah, I know right. What can be more fulfilling, talking about eating and lifting weights ad nauseum?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t see why he should get any attention here or elsewhere.[/quote]
Really? Who should then?[/quote]
What positives does he bring to the table that all the other PRO bbers + other information sources don’t already deliver in a better way?[/quote]
I asked who? I didn’t agree or disagree I asked who should T-Nation give there attention too.
As for an answer to your question. I think success leaves clues and I think failure leaves clues. I’m sure every single person here could learn something from Kali. [/quote]
Perhaps, but I haven’t seen one video in which the guy says anything of any consequence on training or nutrition. But then again , you have a point because so few do anyway these days. And who can blame the makers of these videos. Other than information for noobs, there’s nothing else to say these days. Supplements don’t deliver magic. Getting big involves eating enough protein and calories. Cutting down requires more activity and caloric restriction. In a nutshell, there’s nothing left to say; hence we see You Tube circle jerks and other shenanigans involving calling out liars (natty vs. drug aided), and discussing training and eating as if they are as sophisticated as Talmud interpretation or physics and guys making videos of daily activities such as walking around a grocery store or eating food in a kitchen.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, acting like people posting “Lie” gifs isn’t negative is strange.[/quote]
You ever consider some people use a forum for fun and humor rather than behave like Western Civilization depends on a damn hobby or sport. [/quote]
You ever consider that people with extreme forums goals may not want to settle for fun and humor? [/quote]
Yeah, I know right. What can be more fulfilling, talking about eating and lifting weights ad nauseum?
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You just dont know what it takes to have an extremely high post count. Maybe you just arent cut out for this whole forum thing.