The Flame-Free Confession Thread

Training
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I have never used a belt, ped’s, suit, shirt or any other form of assistance. I like it raw.

People who use ped’s before training consistently for more than a year are impatient or dumb.

I know people who have used ped’s and got incredibly stronger after already training hard so it took them the extra mile but they already earned most of their base strength. I have known people who used them and never trained properly in their life and just looked average or a bit better then normal.Or just remained fat.

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[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:

  • Do BB Hip Thrusts in the gym and wink at someone if they stare. That will solve all of your problems.

[/quote]

I do these every week. Last time, a guy asked me what I was doing. I told him I was working on my night moves. Now he won’t leave me alone. Any suggestions on how to handle this in the future? Winking does not help.

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^ LMAO

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[quote]Majin wrote:

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Confession. People love to think PEDs are magic. No they aren’t. They are tool just like bb or a Hs machine. You figure out how to use it intelligently and work your ass off and then yes results will be good. Nutrition, and training have to be on point to get the best results. I’ve never understood those who use them as a crutch. You will never get everything out of them that way.

Also many things dictate response genetics being a large determiner of how well one responds to a certain dose and compound [/quote]

[quote]Bauber wrote:
Close friend of mine who is competing in USA’s in May. He in the last year has gone from a fairly lean 210ish to 255 with obliques showing using a shitload of gear. slin and GH included. He made more progress in 1.5 years than he has in the last 10 years of training solidly.[/quote]

Please show me the HS machine that will do THIS[/quote]

This.

I don’t like to demonize juice, but it irks me just as much when people praise the hard work of pros with excellent genetics. If you’re training seriously, hard work is a given. It’s not an accomplishment, but a prerequisite. That’s the standard I would expect on a bb forum. Given their situation, the efforts they put in aren’t in excess of what any truly serious trainee does.

Put it this way… What separates, say Stu, from the average gym-goer - that’s hard work and dedication. What separates Kiyoshi Moody from Stu - that’s genetics. What separates Phil Heath from Kiyoshi Moody - PEDs.
[/quote]

I said the same thing on here several times, but you did a better job expressing it. However, it is futile because the majority of people won’t get the point. Dumb people love simple black and white explanations too much.

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[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:

[quote]buckeye girl wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I am like 10,000 times happier at 12-14% bodyfat than I ever was 6-8%. [/quote]

This. Only with different BF % of course.

Being contest lean is cool but its hard to really enjoy life and even having that physique. I’m much happier being “fat”, strong, and able to enjoy doing things with family and friends.
[/quote]

Buckeye, I wouldn’t call what you’ve got “being fat”. Based on your avi you look damn good. And any teeny bopper, Hollister, or Abercrombie bitch (whether male or female) that says otherwise don’t understand what I real woman should look like and can go off themselves in the most painful way possible.

Good to hear about never being happier regarding your current physique. I was semi-serious only because I was curious if one could still see abs at that bodyfat (I assumed your estimate was accurate) and joking regarding the SO being happy. Its important, but a good SO will be happy with you regardless, especially if you’re happy with yourself.[/quote]

I’m nearly 30 pounds over stage weight (its also been a year since I’ve competed). I may not be fat by regular standards but going from that lean to anything else, really, seems fat. It was a process to get where I’m at, and it was mostly intentional…GFH is the long term goal…but I’m not going to lie and say that I couldn’t maintain a lower bf pretty comfortably.

Also…

  1. I used to enjoy multi-ply powerlifting, not so much as a legitimate sport, but as a spectacle. I watched some of the videos from the Westside Pro Invitational and you would think I was watching a horror movie. Hands over my eyes, peeking through my fingers. It hurt to watch.

  2. When trying to convince average women to lift weights, it annoys me that the first thing people say is “you won’t get bulky/look like a man because you don’t have enough testosterone”. The truth is that the average woman/cardio bunny/Zumba-er isn’t going to get “bulky” lifting weights is because she doesn’t have the determination or drive to consistently train at an intensity that would result in “too much muscle”. But I guess thats not the most PC thing to say.

The hormone issue comes second for most women as in “even if you train really hard and lift heavy, it’s unlikely that will make you ‘look manly’ because of your hormones”. And let’s be real about drugs in women’s fitness. It’s not that any AAS will make you manly. A lot of AAS will make you manly. There are plenty of crossfitters, bikini, and figure competitors out there to prove it.

  1. I’ve been working glute activation and some of those “pink dumbbell bikini booty exercises” into my usual lower body workouts and I’ve definitely seen changes. I still think those exercises are dumb, especially if they are

  2. I don’t know what is surfer abs are, but they sound like the sort of things skinny teenage boys have. Gimme the arms. But only if they’re attached to a body with cannonball delts, traps, and an ass that can squat 500 lbs.

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[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:

  • Do BB Hip Thrusts in the gym and wink at someone if they stare. That will solve all of your problems.

[/quote]

I do these every week. Last time, a guy asked me what I was doing. I told him I was working on my night moves. Now he won’t leave me alone. Any suggestions on how to handle this in the future? Winking does not help. [/quote]

If you want a groupies in the gym I would say it did it perfect

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[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I was only half joking. Steroids are “just a tool” but that’s like saying a jack hammer and a chisel are both “just tools.” Results may vary with each tool depending on the person, but the jack hammer is a game changer.

There is a reason there is “body building” and “natural body building” … They are two different categories[/quote]

Then why I do I see the game changer make so mnay ppl not huge at all and I still question if they lift? For every person that has great results there are 3 that look like shit IMO [/quote]

Agreed, many people on this very site that use look horrendous lol.[/quote]

And on pretty much every other site and irl. I was blown away at a couple ppl in my gym that use. I figured they just started lifting. Nope been working out 2 yrs and on 2cd or 3rd cycle. I was dumbstruck.

Looking BA in your new AVI (slight homo)

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[quote]buckeye girl wrote:

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:

[quote]buckeye girl wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I am like 10,000 times happier at 12-14% bodyfat than I ever was 6-8%. [/quote]

This. Only with different BF % of course.

Being contest lean is cool but its hard to really enjoy life and even having that physique. I’m much happier being “fat”, strong, and able to enjoy doing things with family and friends.
[/quote]

Buckeye, I wouldn’t call what you’ve got “being fat”. Based on your avi you look damn good. And any teeny bopper, Hollister, or Abercrombie bitch (whether male or female) that says otherwise don’t understand what I real woman should look like and can go off themselves in the most painful way possible.

Good to hear about never being happier regarding your current physique. I was semi-serious only because I was curious if one could still see abs at that bodyfat (I assumed your estimate was accurate) and joking regarding the SO being happy. Its important, but a good SO will be happy with you regardless, especially if you’re happy with yourself.[/quote]

I’m nearly 30 pounds over stage weight (its also been a year since I’ve competed). I may not be fat by regular standards but going from that lean to anything else, really, seems fat. It was a process to get where I’m at, and it was mostly intentional…GFH is the long term goal…but I’m not going to lie and say that I couldn’t maintain a lower bf pretty comfortably.

Also…

  1. I used to enjoy multi-ply powerlifting, not so much as a legitimate sport, but as a spectacle. I watched some of the videos from the Westside Pro Invitational and you would think I was watching a horror movie. Hands over my eyes, peeking through my fingers. It hurt to watch.

  2. When trying to convince average women to lift weights, it annoys me that the first thing people say is “you won’t get bulky/look like a man because you don’t have enough testosterone”. The truth is that the average woman/cardio bunny/Zumba-er isn’t going to get “bulky” lifting weights is because she doesn’t have the determination or drive to consistently train at an intensity that would result in “too much muscle”. But I guess thats not the most PC thing to say.

The hormone issue comes second for most women as in “even if you train really hard and lift heavy, it’s unlikely that will make you ‘look manly’ because of your hormones”. And let’s be real about drugs in women’s fitness. It’s not that any AAS will make you manly. A lot of AAS will make you manly. There are plenty of crossfitters, bikini, and figure competitors out there to prove it.

  1. I’ve been working glute activation and some of those “pink dumbbell bikini booty exercises” into my usual lower body workouts and I’ve definitely seen changes. I still think those exercises are dumb, especially if they are

  2. I don’t know what is surfer abs are, but they sound like the sort of things skinny teenage boys have. Gimme the arms. But only if they’re attached to a body with cannonball delts, traps, and an ass that can squat 500 lbs. [/quote]

Number 2 is so very true.

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I was only half joking. Steroids are “just a tool” but that’s like saying a jack hammer and a chisel are both “just tools.” Results may vary with each tool depending on the person, but the jack hammer is a game changer.

There is a reason there is “body building” and “natural body building” … They are two different categories[/quote]

Then why I do I see the game changer make so mnay ppl not huge at all and I still question if they lift? For every person that has great results there are 3 that look like shit IMO [/quote]

Agreed, many people on this very site that use look horrendous lol.[/quote]

And on pretty much every other site and irl. I was blown away at a couple ppl in my gym that use. I figured they just started lifting. Nope been working out 2 yrs and on 2cd or 3rd cycle. I was dumbstruck.[/quote]

I thought he was referring to you…ha

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I was only half joking. Steroids are “just a tool” but that’s like saying a jack hammer and a chisel are both “just tools.” Results may vary with each tool depending on the person, but the jack hammer is a game changer.

There is a reason there is “body building” and “natural body building” … They are two different categories[/quote]

Then why I do I see the game changer make so mnay ppl not huge at all and I still question if they lift? For every person that has great results there are 3 that look like shit IMO [/quote]

Agreed, many people on this very site that use look horrendous lol.[/quote]

And on pretty much every other site and irl. I was blown away at a couple ppl in my gym that use. I figured they just started lifting. Nope been working out 2 yrs and on 2cd or 3rd cycle. I was dumbstruck.

Looking BA in your new AVI (slight homo)[/quote]

Thanks dude.

And in reference to Infinite Shore, no I was not meaning Ryan!

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[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I was only half joking. Steroids are “just a tool” but that’s like saying a jack hammer and a chisel are both “just tools.” Results may vary with each tool depending on the person, but the jack hammer is a game changer.

There is a reason there is “body building” and “natural body building” … They are two different categories[/quote]

Then why I do I see the game changer make so mnay ppl not huge at all and I still question if they lift? For every person that has great results there are 3 that look like shit IMO [/quote]

Agreed, many people on this very site that use look horrendous lol.[/quote]

And on pretty much every other site and irl. I was blown away at a couple ppl in my gym that use. I figured they just started lifting. Nope been working out 2 yrs and on 2cd or 3rd cycle. I was dumbstruck.[/quote]

I thought he was referring to you…ha[/quote]

Well thanks for pointing out you think I look horrendous :slight_smile: I finally feel I’m out of the dyel lift category. Long ways before my goals are achieved though.

Also I have never commented on AAS use on this or any other public forum as my face and name are plastered all over so any assumptions are just that

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I was only half joking. Steroids are “just a tool” but that’s like saying a jack hammer and a chisel are both “just tools.” Results may vary with each tool depending on the person, but the jack hammer is a game changer.

There is a reason there is “body building” and “natural body building” … They are two different categories[/quote]

Then why I do I see the game changer make so mnay ppl not huge at all and I still question if they lift? For every person that has great results there are 3 that look like shit IMO [/quote]

Agreed, many people on this very site that use look horrendous lol.[/quote]

And on pretty much every other site and irl. I was blown away at a couple ppl in my gym that use. I figured they just started lifting. Nope been working out 2 yrs and on 2cd or 3rd cycle. I was dumbstruck.[/quote]

I thought he was referring to you…ha[/quote]

Well thanks for pointing out you think I look horrendous :slight_smile: I finally feel I’m out of the dyel lift category. Long ways before my goals are achieved though.

Also I have never commented on AAS use on this or any other public forum as my face and name are plastered all over so any assumptions are just that [/quote]

Actually, I think you look very sexy.

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[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I was only half joking. Steroids are “just a tool” but that’s like saying a jack hammer and a chisel are both “just tools.” Results may vary with each tool depending on the person, but the jack hammer is a game changer.

There is a reason there is “body building” and “natural body building” … They are two different categories[/quote]

Then why I do I see the game changer make so mnay ppl not huge at all and I still question if they lift? For every person that has great results there are 3 that look like shit IMO [/quote]

Agreed, many people on this very site that use look horrendous lol.[/quote]

And on pretty much every other site and irl. I was blown away at a couple ppl in my gym that use. I figured they just started lifting. Nope been working out 2 yrs and on 2cd or 3rd cycle. I was dumbstruck.[/quote]

I thought he was referring to you…ha[/quote]

Well thanks for pointing out you think I look horrendous :slight_smile: I finally feel I’m out of the dyel lift category. Long ways before my goals are achieved though.

Also I have never commented on AAS use on this or any other public forum as my face and name are plastered all over so any assumptions are just that [/quote]

Actually, I think you look very sexy.[/quote]

x2 /\

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[quote]Kakarat wrote:
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-Agile 8 and pull aparts fix everything. [/quote]

Googles pull aparts… Thanks

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I was only half joking. Steroids are “just a tool” but that’s like saying a jack hammer and a chisel are both “just tools.” Results may vary with each tool depending on the person, but the jack hammer is a game changer.

There is a reason there is “body building” and “natural body building” … They are two different categories[/quote]

Then why I do I see the game changer make so mnay ppl not huge at all and I still question if they lift? For every person that has great results there are 3 that look like shit IMO [/quote]

Good point, and I will have to concede because honestly aside from seeing a few hyooge guys in the gym, I dont personally know anyone who uses (or if I do they havent told me), or maybe I do and they all just look like shit :wink:

My knowledge of actual, real world drug use is almost exactly zero.

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[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I was only half joking. Steroids are “just a tool” but that’s like saying a jack hammer and a chisel are both “just tools.” Results may vary with each tool depending on the person, but the jack hammer is a game changer.

There is a reason there is “body building” and “natural body building” … They are two different categories[/quote]

Then why I do I see the game changer make so mnay ppl not huge at all and I still question if they lift? For every person that has great results there are 3 that look like shit IMO [/quote]

Agreed, many people on this very site that use look horrendous lol.[/quote]

And on pretty much every other site and irl. I was blown away at a couple ppl in my gym that use. I figured they just started lifting. Nope been working out 2 yrs and on 2cd or 3rd cycle. I was dumbstruck.[/quote]

I thought he was referring to you…ha[/quote]

Well thanks for pointing out you think I look horrendous :slight_smile: I finally feel I’m out of the dyel lift category. Long ways before my goals are achieved though.

Also I have never commented on AAS use on this or any other public forum as my face and name are plastered all over so any assumptions are just that [/quote]

Actually, I think you look very sexy.[/quote]

x2 /[/quote]

Blushy face emoticon :slight_smile:

Apprecaite it. So much progress to be had yet. Enjoy the journey though

Ps I always welcome critiques as long as they are constructive and I can actualky do something about it

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I think ice cream and kids cereal are the secret to amazing gains. Ok maybe that’s just how I justifuty eating them every night

I also will confess I study too little and have the attention span of a 3 yr old

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PS Ryan… you have gone from DYEL to YDLE. You Definitely Lift Everday.

I feel the same way though. I would probably feel that way if I was Mr Olympia

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]Kakarat wrote:
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-Agile 8 and pull aparts fix everything. [/quote]

Googles pull aparts… Thanks[/quote]
LOL

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I don’t understand why IIFYM is suddenly such a big thing. Maybe I’m missing some key concept that makes it different, but I don’t understand why people act like its something new or special.

I remember reading articles on here in like, 2006-2007, about how to set up some diet or another: 12x BW for calories. 1x BW carbs, or 40% cals from protein…I would figure out my numbers and then log my food on fitday. I would mostly eat healthy (“clean”) but if I wanted some cookies, I’d make them work…WTF has everyone else been doing if its somehow different from that?