Doing Rack Pulls (upper back thickness) + RDLs/SLDLs (hamstrings) + Back Extensions (lower back) > Than just doing Conventional Deadlifts.
Shoulder pressing isnt necessary if you work out chest (especially if you do Incline Bench) and some variation of a pressing movement for your Triceps. Would much rather focus on movements to target the other heads of the deltoid.
Conventional Deadlifts arent an overall mass builder, they do nothing for your lower body.
A lot of people use HS machines as a way to feed their ego’s. “Look at me I can do 5 plates a side on the HS row machine, I can’t DB row 135lbs but since I can use 225lbs for each side on HS Rows it must be better for overloading the muscle” GTFOH
There isnt a single calf transformation before and after pic which wasn’t due to calf implants
I was (a little) heart broken when I found out that almost EVERYONE that gets any face time in the fitness industry, or is at the top of the strength ladder, is on drugs. If you know who they are because of their physique or their lifting total… Chances are they are on drugs.[/quote]List names.
Please list names.
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Kelechi Opara (Mad Titan on these boards) is very successful and well known for his physique. I believe him that he’s natural. From the very beginning he has always stated how important it was to him to remain natural.
He has one of the best physiques around, in my opinion.
I was (a little) heart broken when I found out that almost EVERYONE that gets any face time in the fitness industry, or is at the top of the strength ladder, is on drugs. If you know who they are because of their physique or their lifting total… Chances are they are on drugs.[/quote]List names.
Please list names.
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Kelechi Opara (Mad Titan on these boards) is very successful and well known for his physique. I believe him that he’s natural. From the very beginning he has always stated how important it was to him to remain natural.
He has one of the best physiques around, in my opinion. [/quote]
He’s also quite light. And just has a great structure, along with with great work ethic. He’s muscular, but he’s not outside to spectrum of a natural athlete, body weight wise I don’t think.
This is flame free, but I’ll say it. Being REALLY big is possible natty. Being REALLY lean is possible natty. Being kind of lean and kind of big is possible natty. Being REALLY big AND lean… Probably not.
There isnt a single calf transformation before and after pic which wasn’t due to calf implants
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Totally disagree. I do acknowledge that many people have a hell of a time seeing results in their calves, but not everyone. I’ve known many skinny guys who had zero calf development before lifting, but after putting on 50 pounds had good calves.
Then again, you did ask for pics. Away from my home computer for a few days but will post some if I remember.
There isnt a single calf transformation before and after pic which wasn’t due to calf implants
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Totally disagree. I do acknowledge that many people have a hell of a time seeing results in their calves, but not everyone. I’ve known many skinny guys who had zero calf development before lifting, but after putting on 50 pounds had good calves.
Then again, you did ask for pics. Away from my home computer for a few days but will post some if I remember. [/quote]
Damn, what’s wrong with me, this is supposed to be flame-free.
I was (a little) heart broken when I found out that almost EVERYONE that gets any face time in the fitness industry, or is at the top of the strength ladder, is on drugs. If you know who they are because of their physique or their lifting total… Chances are they are on drugs.[/quote]List names.
Please list names.
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Kelechi Opara (Mad Titan on these boards) is very successful and well known for his physique. I believe him that he’s natural. From the very beginning he has always stated how important it was to him to remain natural.
He has one of the best physiques around, in my opinion. [/quote]
He’s also quite light. And just has a great structure, along with with great work ethic. He’s muscular, but he’s not outside to spectrum of a natural athlete, body weight wise I don’t think.
This is flame free, but I’ll say it. Being REALLY big is possible natty. Being REALLY lean is possible natty. Being kind of lean and kind of big is possible natty. Being REALLY big AND lean… Probably not.
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You’re right, he’s light (around 180 at 5’9") but not that light considering how lean he is. I believe he surpasses the supposed limits set by people like Casey Butts about how much muscle a natural can carry, so he is actually pretty damn big for a natural that lean year round.
I was (a little) heart broken when I found out that almost EVERYONE that gets any face time in the fitness industry, or is at the top of the strength ladder, is on drugs. If you know who they are because of their physique or their lifting total… Chances are they are on drugs.[/quote]List names.
Please list names.
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Kelechi Opara (Mad Titan on these boards) is very successful and well known for his physique. I believe him that he’s natural. From the very beginning he has always stated how important it was to him to remain natural.
He has one of the best physiques around, in my opinion. [/quote]
not that ive seen madtitan. but people like josh hyaduck, jeff willet and jim cordova also stress the importance of staying natural, when in fact their natty status is very questionable to say the least.
I was (a little) heart broken when I found out that almost EVERYONE that gets any face time in the fitness industry, or is at the top of the strength ladder, is on drugs. If you know who they are because of their physique or their lifting total… Chances are they are on drugs.[/quote]List names.
Please list names.
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Any very well known name in bodybuilding, powerlifting or fitness/sport modeling. is without a doubt using gear.
I was (a little) heart broken when I found out that almost EVERYONE that gets any face time in the fitness industry, or is at the top of the strength ladder, is on drugs. If you know who they are because of their physique or their lifting total… Chances are they are on drugs.[/quote]List names.
Please list names.
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Kelechi Opara (Mad Titan on these boards) is very successful and well known for his physique. I believe him that he’s natural. From the very beginning he has always stated how important it was to him to remain natural.
He has one of the best physiques around, in my opinion. [/quote]
not that ive seen madtitan. but people like josh hyaduck, jeff willet and jim cordova also stress the importance of staying natural, when in fact their natty status is very questionable to say the least.
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Yeah, good point. I get a different vibe from Opara, but “vibes” certainly aren’t actual proof or evidence. No way to know for sure.
[quote]DanielDJ wrote:
Doing Rack Pulls (upper back thickness) + RDLs/SLDLs (hamstrings) + Back Extensions (lower back) > Than just doing Conventional [/quote]
I like this
For a site that has a large proportion of members who are interested in aesthetics it has very few articles on bodybuilding style training .
Other then Dr Clay Hyght and John Meadows most other articles are about how to get strong in a particular lift or strength based overall.
Supplements are vastly overrated and people like me spend way too much money on them. I do because I guess I’m a bit lazy in the kitchen but to think that taking a supplement will somehow help you get a pump or build more muscle is I think a bit misleading.
A lot of lifters that look huge in the gym are really just carrying fat. Not to say they still can’t be muscular but body fat % makes a huge difference. This should be obvious but too some it’s not.
Telling a newb not to train arms or calves is crazy and sets bad habits.
-For someone who has trained Olympic athletes Charles Poliquin can really talk some shit. Often wonder if he is serious when he writes it but think he must do it for the reaction it gets. Having said that Modern Trends In Strength Training is a great book.
The reason why many people like the so called golden age of bodybuilding is because they didn’t have the huge guts of today. Hell some people even think that Arnold was the greatest even though he was way lighter then those of today and didn’t really have legs to speak of. It was the tiny midsection that made it all seem so real and impressive.
The guts on display at the recent Arnold Classic were quite disturbing and shows that bodybuilding is a long way off changing this trend.
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I believe <1% of the TNation populace actually knows how to recommend anything for an individual other than what has personally worked for them.
Honestly, how much advice starts with “Well I did such and such and had great results!..”[/quote]
Says Mr stick to my diet or GTFO
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It wasn’t my diet. It was hers.
Your example has nothing to do with my claim btw. A proper counter example would be if I gave her same diet and training template I was using to cut fat. [/quote]
I was looking it from the perspective that for you, you have got to the stage that you simply stick to the diet or you don’t, period. That’s what worked for you. Other people might not be quite that disciplined or at that level, and expecting them to do the same with no room for error is looking at their problem through your eyes.
Great work on the coaching btw. I think you’ll see some great things.
For a site that has a large proportion of members who are interested in aesthetics it has very few articles on bodybuilding style training .
Other then Dr Clay Hyght and John Meadows most other articles are about how to get strong in a particular lift or strength based overall.
Supplements are vastly overrated and people like me spend way too much money on them. I do because I guess I’m a bit lazy in the kitchen but to think that taking a supplement will somehow help you get a pump or build more muscle is I think a bit misleading.
A lot of lifters that look huge in the gym are really just carrying fat. Not to say they still can’t be muscular but body fat % makes a huge difference. This should be obvious but too some it’s not.
Telling a newb not to train arms or calves is crazy and sets bad habits.
-For someone who has trained Olympic athletes Charles Poliquin can really talk some shit. Often wonder if he is serious when he writes it but think he must do it for the reaction it gets. Having said that Modern Trends In Strength Training is a great book.
The reason why many people like the so called golden age of bodybuilding is because they didn’t have the huge guts of today. Hell some people even think that Arnold was the greatest even though he was way lighter then those of today and didn’t really have legs to speak of. It was the tiny midsection that made it all seem so real and impressive.
The guts on display at the recent Arnold Classic were quite disturbing and shows that bodybuilding is a long way off changing this trend. [/quote]
The gut thing irks me. I wish there was some reliable information regarding hgh use at that level, since I’m about to start on the hgh myself and really do not want the bloated muscle belly look. It’s awful.
varity is over rated,lift heavy weight consistantly = get bigger…
suppliments overrated
going for a run a couple times a week is great for body,mind and makes no difference to leg size
sore muscles = good workout
shrugs are useless
i hate training arms
those branch warren and johnny jackson vids are hilarious for all the wrong reasons
kai greene is full of shit
modern bbs are a joke ,bloated and cant say a sentence without gasping for air
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I believe <1% of the TNation populace actually knows how to recommend anything for an individual other than what has personally worked for them.
Honestly, how much advice starts with “Well I did such and such and had great results!..”[/quote]
Says Mr stick to my diet or GTFO
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It wasn’t my diet. It was hers.
Your example has nothing to do with my claim btw. A proper counter example would be if I gave her same diet and training template I was using to cut fat. [/quote]
I was looking it from the perspective that for you, you have got to the stage that you simply stick to the diet or you don’t, period. That’s what worked for you. Other people might not be quite that disciplined or at that level, and expecting them to do the same with no room for error is looking at their problem through your eyes.
Great work on the coaching btw. I think you’ll see some great things.
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