Imma be fresh as hell if the Feds watching
If I graduate college, I will try to open my own gym and attempt to hold my own meets there.
I will offer healthy cash prizes if I can afford them. There will be no weight classes.
The rules will be:
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The only equipment allowed will include a singlet, a belt, shoes with up to .75 inches of lift in the heel, knee/elbow sleeves, and wrist wraps.
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Squats will be locked out and down to hip crease below top of knee, bench with a one second pause, and deadlift to full lockout and hold for 1 second at top. Dropping the weight above the knee in the deadlift will result in a no-lift.
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Highest amount of weight lifted wins. You will get a medal, one of those silly oversized checks, and a picture on the wall of my gym. Second place gets a ribbon for consolation.
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Ties will be settled with a fourth lift. (Press, pull up, clean and jerk, front squat, etc.)
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No entry fees. You must register at least 3 hours before the competition.
For the record I do not cut. BUT I know guys who do. Try cutting 10+ pounds and TRY to lift the numbers you THINK you want to lift. This is a huge gamble on these guys parts. It often doesn’t wortk out for them and the one who do, who cares.
Ya’ll go ahead and disagree here but some of you sound insecure as fuck guys.
Yeah, I don’t understand the hate for cutting weight either. Seems like people are really just looking for something at that point. All sports with weight classes have this as part of the game. And who is to say what is defined as “cutting weight” for competition. If someone is smart and starts a slower cut a month out to try to shave off 10-15 lbs, are they any different than the guy who decided to make a drastic cut a day before the comp?
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I’m not sure why anyone would get so jacked over someone cutting a weight class. Everyone has an equal opportunity to do so. There are repercussions to cutting too much too late. But that’s the lifter’s choice. Wrestlers go up and down weight classes all the time and I never heard anyone complain about that. I will admit that a 24- vs 2-hour weigh in could make a huge difference in numbers, though.
I have personally only competed USAPL. The inherent strictness appeals to me. As such, I only really follow the numbers of other lifters in my fed because I know that it’s an apples to apples comparison that way.[/quote]
I also joined the USAPL for the same reasons.
I am also against the 24 hour weigh in rule. Even though at my weight class, 82.5 Kg, there are few, if any, people from the next class “Cutting down” to get into the 181 lb class.
Maybe because Im old and grumpy, but I though power lifting came about because people didnt like the fact that in Olympic Weightlifting, smaller, weaker, people with great technique, could beat bigger stronger people with poor technique. PL was embraced becuase it “leveled” the playing field, it was more about strength than technique. Now, with unbelieveable back arches, tiny Russian girls can do what is essentially a bench lock out with a 4" ROM and set world records.
If I had my way…which I dont, at a meet, you would weight in on the way to your first lift, what ever your weight, thats the class you are in that day. You would be belted down to the bench, and your feet would be flat on the floor for you bench press lift.
PS: Despite all that,I arch as much as I can when I bench…
TBH the only people that ever really should cut are A) Those that want to B) Those going for state/national/word records
I’ve never heard anyone in groups A or B talk about problems with other feds’ cutting policies. Mike T isn’t gonna complain , even though obviously he could be a 242 a 24 hr weigh in fed.
I feel like most of these issues are only complained about by the lower level lifters. The better ones, if they don’t like the fed, they just don’t lift in it. If I don’t like another organization, I can’t really spend my time bad-mouthing it or discrediting it. All I can really do is not support it. From there, there will either be enough of my peers echoing my thoughts for that organization to fail or change, or there won’t, and it’ll stay the same.
Theres been afew “records” recently in the squat that were bullshit and everyone knows they were, the more of them i see the less bothered i am about non ipf lifts.
everything about meets should be way more computerized than it is now, including judging squat depth and bench pauses. I’ll leave it up to crossfit to do that, as powerlifters on their own have really failed to do shit commercially
and for every one of us that gets upset over squat depth, there are 100 other bros who believe Kali muscle or someone else is the strongest man on earth and natty
I feel as though the lack of computer usage is due to a lack of demand by the athletes. I generally do not see powerlifters demanding these things. I tend to only see it from spectators, and even then its from YouTube videos.
If nothing else though, its good fuel for another fed.
Who the hell is Kali muscle?
[quote]moeheep wrote:
Maybe because Im old and grumpy, but I though power lifting came about because people didnt like the fact that in Olympic Weightlifting, smaller, weaker, people with great technique, could beat bigger stronger people with poor technique. PL was embraced becuase it “leveled” the playing field, it was more about strength than technique. Now, with unbelieveable back arches, tiny Russian girls can do what is essentially a bench lock out with a 4" ROM and set world records.
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I see what you’re getting at, but I’m not sure if that was the true genesis of the sport, and I’m not so sure that the difference between the two has ever been so fundamentally great – at least not until the clean and press was eliminated from Olympic weightlifting competition in the 1970s.
Even the tiny Russian girls setting world records with small ROMs have incredible relative strength and they play with their leverages – just as any world-record-holding powerlifter has often taken advantage of his or her own biomechanics. This is something that’s part of all sports.
[quote]deepsquats220 wrote:
TBH the only people that ever really should cut are A) Those that want to B) Those going for state/national/word records
I’ve never heard anyone in groups A or B talk about problems with other feds’ cutting policies. Mike T isn’t gonna complain , even though obviously he could be a 242 a 24 hr weigh in fed.
I feel like most of these issues are only complained about by the lower level lifters. The better ones, if they don’t like the fed, they just don’t lift in it. If I don’t like another organization, I can’t really spend my time bad-mouthing it or discrediting it. All I can really do is not support it. From there, there will either be enough of my peers echoing my thoughts for that organization to fail or change, or there won’t, and it’ll stay the same.[/quote]
I suppose this is a good approach for powerlifting where you’re always competing against yourself. In some other weight class sports you’re going head to head so cutting is more of an issue at every level. But I digress since this is about powerlifting.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
everything about meets should be way more computerized than it is now, including judging squat depth and bench pauses.[/quote]
What like microchips implanted in the crease of the hips and at the top of the knee? Or an ankle collar made of C4 and if you cut depth or don’t pause it blows up like on The Condemned? lol
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
everything about meets should be way more computerized than it is now, including judging squat depth and bench pauses.[/quote]
What like microchips implanted in the crease of the hips and at the top of the knee? Or an ankle collar made of C4 and if you cut depth or don’t pause it blows up like on The Condemned? lol
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Squat to depth or suffer the consequences. It’ll be like that movie divergent where at birth you are either born with a SPF ankle collar or a USAPL collar.
This thread delivered. I now know all the excuses people can use in PL. Btw no world record should be able to be beaten now since previous lifters did not have access to muscle milk or quest bars. Also shoes are better quality, belts are a nicer leather, and have you seen the new titan singlets?
[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
This thread delivered. I now know all the excuses people can use in PL. Btw no world record should be able to be beaten now since previous lifters did not have access to muscle milk or quest bars. Also shoes are better quality, belts are a nicer leather, and have you seen the new titan singlets?[/quote]
What is different about the new titan singlets?
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
This thread delivered. I now know all the excuses people can use in PL. Btw no world record should be able to be beaten now since previous lifters did not have access to muscle milk or quest bars. Also shoes are better quality, belts are a nicer leather, and have you seen the new titan singlets?[/quote]
What is different about the new titan singlets?[/quote]
Pretty sure that was sarcasm
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
This thread delivered. I now know all the excuses people can use in PL. Btw no world record should be able to be beaten now since previous lifters did not have access to muscle milk or quest bars. Also shoes are better quality, belts are a nicer leather, and have you seen the new titan singlets?[/quote]
What is different about the new titan singlets?[/quote]
- smartassery = Its really an electroactive polymer suit in which a small electric charge is applied and the lifter is granted 100x their natural strength. This is why Hoff can only squat 135 raw, but squats 1200 with the suit on. / smartassery.
Happy Easter BTW y’all.
Nice thread, … it was flat feet on floor until after the APF, (around mid 1980s) not sure which fed changed first
regarding Larry and drugs, he was busted for selling (I believe) and had a heart attack at 37, so make you own mind up.
regarding depth, …when Heinz V. became president of the IPF he decided every one should squat his way and threw out the rule book.
IPF lifters ever since have had to dunk their squats lower than the rules imply, just like Heinz an ex OL used to do.
PL USA had one photo of Heinz squatting heels about 12" apart looked ridiculous, the Western European Feds high jacked the sport, and basically used Franz’s law suit to lock out the US. US lifters travelled through the time zones, competed when their bodies said sleep, lifted less than at their Nats and had to put up with the Europeans saying “well if you lift less you must cheat at home” , without ever trying to compete out of their own time zone.
Ahhhh the good old days, thank god for the GPA
[quote]GMH454 wrote:
Nice thread, … it was flat feet on floor until after the APF, (around mid 1980s) not sure which fed changed first
regarding Larry and drugs, he was busted for selling (I believe) and had a heart attack at 37, so make you own mind up.
regarding depth, …when Heinz V. became president of the IPF he decided every one should squat his way and threw out the rule book.
IPF lifters ever since have had to dunk their squats lower than the rules imply, just like Heinz an ex OL used to do.
PL USA had one photo of Heinz squatting heels about 12" apart looked ridiculous, the Western European Feds high jacked the sport, and basically used Franz’s law suit to lock out the US. US lifters travelled through the time zones, competed when their bodies said sleep, lifted less than at their Nats and had to put up with the Europeans saying “well if you lift less you must cheat at home” , without ever trying to compete out of their own time zone.
Ahhhh the good old days, thank god for the GPA[/quote]
Perhaps you haven’t been to and IPF contest recently, but squats don’t have to be lower than what is stated in the rule book.