The Effect of Your Physique on Others

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]dianab wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]dianab wrote:
I like it when a roomful of guys talk about what women like.
In reality, we all like different attributes in men, because, we are ALL DIFFERENT.
But carry on, it’s always amusing.[/quote]

actually my dear, men know more about women than women do. why is that you may ask. cause we are the ones who deal with them. not you. we date them. we marry them. so we know better than anyone what a woman says and what she really believes can be 2 totally different things. [/quote]

LMAO if that was true why are there so many discussions about what the hell women want, my dear?
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Those discussions are started by inexperienced teenagers that’s why.

If you have any experience dealing with women you know women have little idea of what they actually want.
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If this is your experience you need to lay off the teehee and the dipshits.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]dianab wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]dianab wrote:
I like it when a roomful of guys talk about what women like.
In reality, we all like different attributes in men, because, we are ALL DIFFERENT.
But carry on, it’s always amusing.[/quote]

actually my dear, men know more about women than women do. why is that you may ask. cause we are the ones who deal with them. not you. we date them. we marry them. so we know better than anyone what a woman says and what she really believes can be 2 totally different things. [/quote]

LMAO if that was true why are there so many discussions about what the hell women want, my dear?
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Those discussions are started by inexperienced teenagers that’s why.

If you have any experience dealing with women you know women have little idea of what they actually want.
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Um, the discussion on that topic has been around forever, not just on this forum.
One gets to know what they want out of life with experience, that goes for men and women.

I don’t have experience with older women - all the women I’ve dated have been between 18 and 24.

You guys are both hovering around 40, perhaps it’s quite different at that stage.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I don’t have experience with older women - all the women I’ve dated have been between 18 and 24.

You guys are both hovering around 40, perhaps it’s quite different at that stage.[/quote]

Yet you feel qualified to speak like you’re knowledgeable about women. Lesson here for you: you don’t know what you’re talking about!

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I don’t have experience with older women - all the women I’ve dated have been between 18 and 24.

You guys are both hovering around 40, perhaps it’s quite different at that stage.[/quote]

Yet you feel qualified to speak like you’re knowledgeable about women. Lesson here for you: you don’t know what you’re talking about![/quote]

I’m speaking in regards to the age group of women I date.

You’re right I should’ve pointed that in my previous post, but I stand by what I wrote about women in that age group.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I don’t have experience with older women - all the women I’ve dated have been between 18 and 24.

You guys are both hovering around 40, perhaps it’s quite different at that stage.[/quote]

The thing is, when you are a young adult, no one knows what they want. It’s normal. You gotta live a little to figure that out. Although some people don’t learn from their mistakes and keep doing the same stupid shit over and over. I know people my age who just don’t get it, so really it’s not about age as much as how much a person has their act together.

On topic: I could care less if a guy has big muscles, as long as he’s not a couch slug, takes reasonable care of his health and is a decent person who gets up every day and goes to work. Big guys don’t scare me, some are attractive, some are not.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I don’t have experience with older women - all the women I’ve dated have been between 18 and 24.

You guys are both hovering around 40, perhaps it’s quite different at that stage.[/quote]

Yet you feel qualified to speak like you’re knowledgeable about women. Lesson here for you: you don’t know what you’re talking about![/quote]

I’m speaking in regards to the age group of women I date.

You’re right I should’ve pointed that in my previous post, but I stand by what I wrote about women in that age group.

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This is in contrast to the inexperienced teenagers referenced? You don’t think 18-24 year-olds fit that?

Anyway, you’ve taken your massive generalization and excluded probably 80% of women (just made that number up, don’t know how many are in that age group) and then if you eliminate women who aren’t you’re type and aren’t in a big city or small city and…

[quote]dianab wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]dianab wrote:
I like it when a roomful of guys talk about what women like.
In reality, we all like different attributes in men, because, we are ALL DIFFERENT.
But carry on, it’s always amusing.[/quote]

actually my dear, men know more about women than women do. why is that you may ask. cause we are the ones who deal with them. not you. we date them. we marry them. so we know better than anyone what a woman says and what she really believes can be 2 totally different things. [/quote]

LMAO if that was true why are there so many discussions about what the hell women want, my dear?
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WAIT A MINUTE
aren’t you the guy in love with the 400 year old dead chick?
That’s why you “understand” women so well, bone dust is pretty un-opinionated.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]dianab wrote:
I like it when a roomful of guys talk about what women like.
In reality, we all like different attributes in men, because, we are ALL DIFFERENT.
But carry on, it’s always amusing.[/quote]

Wamt to hear something really funny? I think most women base what they like in men on certain attributes present in their fathers.

You may be laughing, but we wouldn’t be seeing the same actions so much if there wasn’t something ton it.

Most women today give a very generric programmed response to big muscles…that they don’t seem to have when it is one on one.

I find it funny too…[/quote]

Hmn… let’s see:

Tall
Easygoing
Reliable
Fit
Honest
Loyal
Great hair

Yeah, pretty much and I’ve always been aware of it. In my case I think its a good thing but for women with lame dads or daddy issues it can probably get somewhat neurotic.

Anyways carry on!

My woman likes my body. That’s all I care about.

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I don’t have experience with older women - all the women I’ve dated have been between 18 and 24.

You guys are both hovering around 40, perhaps it’s quite different at that stage.[/quote]

Yet you feel qualified to speak like you’re knowledgeable about women. Lesson here for you: you don’t know what you’re talking about![/quote]

I’m speaking in regards to the age group of women I date.

You’re right I should’ve pointed that in my previous post, but I stand by what I wrote about women in that age group.

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This is in contrast to the inexperienced teenagers referenced? You don’t think 18-24 year-olds fit that?

Anyway, you’ve taken your massive generalization and excluded probably 80% of women (just made that number up, don’t know how many are in that age group) and then if you eliminate women who aren’t you’re type and aren’t in a big city or small city and…

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I already said I meant to direct my comments at the 18-24 crowd.

Look, I know why you’re debating me on this, it’s because you’re a woman and my comments probably offend you.

But I don’t think I need to sleep with a woman in every city in Canada to make this statement.

Why don’t you ask guys who regularly date women in the 18-24 age range that you deem “experienced” as to what they think of my statement?

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I don’t have experience with older women - all the women I’ve dated have been between 18 and 24.

You guys are both hovering around 40, perhaps it’s quite different at that stage.[/quote]

Yet you feel qualified to speak like you’re knowledgeable about women. Lesson here for you: you don’t know what you’re talking about![/quote]

I’m speaking in regards to the age group of women I date.

You’re right I should’ve pointed that in my previous post, but I stand by what I wrote about women in that age group.

[/quote]

This is in contrast to the inexperienced teenagers referenced? You don’t think 18-24 year-olds fit that?

Anyway, you’ve taken your massive generalization and excluded probably 80% of women (just made that number up, don’t know how many are in that age group) and then if you eliminate women who aren’t you’re type and aren’t in a big city or small city and…

[/quote]

I already said I meant to direct my comments at the 18-24 crowd.

Look, I know why you’re debating me on this, it’s because you’re a woman and my comments probably offend you.

But I don’t think I need to sleep with a woman in every city in Canada to make this statement.

Why don’t you ask guys who regularly date women in the 18-24 age range that you deem “experienced” as to what they think of my statement?

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I’m debating you on this because you’re wrong :stuck_out_tongue:

Seriously though all I’m going to say is this: if you put people into little boxes you will only surround yourself with people that fit in them. That means women too.

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I don’t have experience with older women - all the women I’ve dated have been between 18 and 24.

You guys are both hovering around 40, perhaps it’s quite different at that stage.[/quote]

Yet you feel qualified to speak like you’re knowledgeable about women. Lesson here for you: you don’t know what you’re talking about![/quote]

I’m speaking in regards to the age group of women I date.

You’re right I should’ve pointed that in my previous post, but I stand by what I wrote about women in that age group.

[/quote]

This is in contrast to the inexperienced teenagers referenced? You don’t think 18-24 year-olds fit that?

Anyway, you’ve taken your massive generalization and excluded probably 80% of women (just made that number up, don’t know how many are in that age group) and then if you eliminate women who aren’t you’re type and aren’t in a big city or small city and…

[/quote]

I already said I meant to direct my comments at the 18-24 crowd.

Look, I know why you’re debating me on this, it’s because you’re a woman and my comments probably offend you.

But I don’t think I need to sleep with a woman in every city in Canada to make this statement.

Why don’t you ask guys who regularly date women in the 18-24 age range that you deem “experienced” as to what they think of my statement?

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Seriously though all I’m going to say is this: if you put people into little boxes you will only surround yourself with people that fit in them. That means women too. [/quote]

That is true, you and diana make some good points.

But I’m sure we all make generalizations based on past experiences to some extent. It’s part of human nature.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
But I’m sure we all make generalizations based on past experiences to some extent. It’s part of human nature.[/quote]

It is, but it’s still not something you want to do mindlessly, IMO.

[quote]dianab wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]dianab wrote:
I like it when a roomful of guys talk about what women like.
In reality, we all like different attributes in men, because, we are ALL DIFFERENT.
But carry on, it’s always amusing.[/quote]

actually my dear, men know more about women than women do. why is that you may ask. cause we are the ones who deal with them. not you. we date them. we marry them. so we know better than anyone what a woman says and what she really believes can be 2 totally different things. [/quote]

LMAO if that was true why are there so many discussions about what the hell women want, my dear?
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the my dear part would take some explaining. it wasn’t meant as an insult. i was in a way being a tad bit condescending, but Im currently writing a book about a woman who would say that.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
the my dear part would take some explaining. it wasn’t meant as an insult. i was in a way being a tad bit condescending, but Im currently writing a book about a woman who would say that. [/quote]

Neelydan thinks you’re an interesting character.

I’ll tell you one thing, if you have a boss who is a big guy(not fat) just big the amount of respect he gets compared to a boss who is average is crazy.

[quote]Hallowed wrote:
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Hmn… let’s see:

Tall
Easygoing
Reliable
Fit
Honest
Loyal
Great hair

Yeah, pretty much and I’ve always been aware of it. In my case I think its a good thing but for women with lame dads or daddy issues it can probably get somewhat neurotic.

Anyways carry on![/quote]

What exactly constitutes as tall and great hair?

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]WhiteCrow wrote:
Was my question really this ridiculous or do some people need to GAL?

Anyway thanks Hydra and Jereth for the replies. If anyone else (well built & sane) wants to chime in, welcome.[/quote]
Buddy, you’re lucky you even got one or two serious responses with a silly question like this.

This is the second or third question posted by relative newbies where the OP comes in later upset at the responses.[/quote]

It’s actually not a bad question. It’s a real issue and when you’re trapped in your own body, you just don’t have the same awareness of yourself as others do. This is very important for social interactions. I have a buddy that’s a big dude that is in a position of authority at his occupation. He had the typical run-in with lazy ass at work, going thru the HR process and such and, in addition to those steps normally taken for lazy ass workers, he got to hear about how intimidating his appearance is and how he needed to soften his appearance. He has some tats on his arms, his head was shaved and he’s a big boy, but a helluva nice guy.

Fast forward a few months. We meet for lunch. He walks in, I barely recognize him. He’s grown his fucking hair - no more shaved head. I’m like WTF dude? And he relates again the HR horseshit.

People see you and make a quick judgment. And that initial judgment is sometimes hard to shake. I’ve heard it for years about my size and I’m still baffled by it. Absolutely baffled. [/quote]

This totally sucks BG. It’s very unfortunate but true that outward appearance governs the perception of how you’re treated in a work setting (both by colleagues and senior management). Not everyone can take this level of bias and they do their own thing (which I respect). I was in headhunting for 3 years and saw a whole wide mixture of candidates of different experience levels. That first impression and experience goes a very long way. Hearing your story though I feel sorry for your friend because it is like he was forced to be something different.

[quote]byukid wrote:
My woman likes my body. That’s all I care about.[/quote]

Yes I agree with this and I also agree it’s important to keep improving yourself for your partner. I don’t want my partner to remember for who I was, I want her to remember me for who I am and who I am evolving to be. Not just in body, but in intellect and emotional intelligence.

Things change over time. That’s why this topic of what men/women want is so subjective. You can’t make sweeping generalizations that either gender likes one thing versus another. What should be the aim is to progressively understand what your partner wants and help them fulfill it (hopefully this is reciprocated). Ask questions, don’t read a book. It’s virtually impossible to connect with everyone of the opposite sex, we’re attracted to some and not attracted to others regardless of how much we think we know what the other “wants”.