[quote]behexen wrote:
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
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Hmn… let’s see:
Tall
Easygoing
Reliable
Fit
Honest
Loyal
Great hair
Yeah, pretty much and I’ve always been aware of it. In my case I think its a good thing but for women with lame dads or daddy issues it can probably get somewhat neurotic.
Anyways carry on![/quote]
What exactly constitutes as tall and great hair?[/quote]
About six feet.
Lots of hair.
EDIT: lack of hair could possibly be forgiven if disguised with a pirate hat.
5’11" Used to have long hair back a few years ago, now I usually keep it buzzed relativly short with a short mohawk. Haha don’t suppose that would fit your criteria?
As far as the thread is concerned i’m not a big guy yet but i’m at the stage where average people are making comments and I’d agree with what most others have said. It makes you polarizing. There is either a mutual respect or a dislike/jealousy from other guys. The girls seem to look my way more but being a shy guy and always having some kind of random band shirt that no one knows usually turns them off enough they don’t approach me anyway.
[quote]behexen wrote:
5’11" Used to have long hair back a few years ago, now I usually keep it buzzed relativly short with a short mohawk. Haha don’t suppose that would fit your criteria?
As far as the thread is concerned i’m not a big guy yet but i’m at the stage where average people are making comments and I’d agree with what most others have said. It makes you polarizing. There is either a mutual respect or a dislike/jealousy from other guys. The girls seem to look my way more but being a shy guy and always having some kind of random band shirt that no one knows usually turns them off enough they don’t approach me anyway. [/quote]
You STILL have never sent me any pictures. 
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[quote]behexen wrote:
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[
Hmn… let’s see:
Tall
Easygoing
Reliable
Fit
Honest
Loyal
Great hair
Yeah, pretty much and I’ve always been aware of it. In my case I think its a good thing but for women with lame dads or daddy issues it can probably get somewhat neurotic.
Anyways carry on![/quote]
What exactly constitutes as tall and great hair?[/quote]
About six feet.
Lots of hair.
EDIT: lack of hair could possibly be forgiven if disguised with a pirate hat.[/quote]
I really like Brad Pitt’s hair. I wish I had follicles like his…
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]dianab wrote:
I like it when a roomful of guys talk about what women like.
In reality, we all like different attributes in men, because, we are ALL DIFFERENT.
But carry on, it’s always amusing.[/quote]
actually my dear, men know more about women than women do. why is that you may ask. cause we are the ones who deal with them. not you. we date them. we marry them. so we know better than anyone what a woman says and what she really believes can be 2 totally different things. [/quote]
You do realize that women deal with us men as well, right?
This is a pretty short sighted statement.
It’s one thing to say that over time (maybe not 400 years) I’ve learned something about women and anothe to say i know them better than they know themselves.
[quote]dianab wrote:
[quote]dianab wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]dianab wrote:
I like it when a roomful of guys talk about what women like.
In reality, we all like different attributes in men, because, we are ALL DIFFERENT.
But carry on, it’s always amusing.[/quote]
actually my dear, men know more about women than women do. why is that you may ask. cause we are the ones who deal with them. not you. we date them. we marry them. so we know better than anyone what a woman says and what she really believes can be 2 totally different things. [/quote]
LMAO if that was true why are there so many discussions about what the hell women want, my dear?
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WAIT A MINUTE
aren’t you the guy in love with the 400 year old dead chick?
That’s why you “understand” women so well, bone dust is pretty un-opinionated.[/quote]
its most likely beyond your comprehension, with regards to her. but no, I only know when alot of women claim they don’t like big muscular guys, most of the time they are speaking out of their ass. lol. while working as a bouncer, id frequently hear girls talk about a certain guy, who was a bodybuilder, saying how gross he was. an hour later, they were all over him.
She has totally changed my view of women and what i want in a woman. and todays modern day woman the vast majority of the time, seem to lack the qualities i want.
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
the my dear part would take some explaining. it wasn’t meant as an insult. i was in a way being a tad bit condescending, but Im currently writing a book about a woman who would say that. [/quote]
Neelydan thinks you’re an interesting character.[/quote]
why is “writing a book” underlined???
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[quote]behexen wrote:
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[
Hmn… let’s see:
Tall
Easygoing
Reliable
Fit
Honest
Loyal
Great hair
Yeah, pretty much and I’ve always been aware of it. In my case I think its a good thing but for women with lame dads or daddy issues it can probably get somewhat neurotic.
Anyways carry on![/quote]
What exactly constitutes as tall and great hair?[/quote]
About six feet.
Lots of hair.
EDIT: lack of hair could possibly be forgiven if disguised with a pirate hat.[/quote]
long in men faded out in the 80s. long hair on men is just plain gay and not in style. the buzz cut is in style.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[quote]behexen wrote:
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[
Hmn… let’s see:
Tall
Easygoing
Reliable
Fit
Honest
Loyal
Great hair
Yeah, pretty much and I’ve always been aware of it. In my case I think its a good thing but for women with lame dads or daddy issues it can probably get somewhat neurotic.
Anyways carry on![/quote]
What exactly constitutes as tall and great hair?[/quote]
About six feet.
Lots of hair.
EDIT: lack of hair could possibly be forgiven if disguised with a pirate hat.[/quote]
long in men faded out in the 80s. long hair on men is just plain gay and not in style. the buzz cut is in style. [/quote]
I didn’t say LONG hair. I said lots of hair. As in not BALDING.
Anyways, tell the long hair is gay to Johan Hegg.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[quote]behexen wrote:
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[
Hmn… let’s see:
Tall
Easygoing
Reliable
Fit
Honest
Loyal
Great hair
Yeah, pretty much and I’ve always been aware of it. In my case I think its a good thing but for women with lame dads or daddy issues it can probably get somewhat neurotic.
Anyways carry on![/quote]
What exactly constitutes as tall and great hair?[/quote]
About six feet.
Lots of hair.
EDIT: lack of hair could possibly be forgiven if disguised with a pirate hat.[/quote]
long in men faded out in the 80s. long hair on men is just plain gay and not in style. the buzz cut is in style. [/quote]
I’d be willing to bet money(a lot of it) if I google image search ‘male model’ I’ll see a lot of fairly long hair, and the only buzz cuts will be dark skinned men. Maybe ‘metal’ hair went out in the 80s but there are long haired men all over Hollywood that I’m fairly sure women get wet over. They may not be built to your liking but that had nothing to do with your argument so I’m sure you won’t bring it up as a sort of rebuttal, right?
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[quote]behexen wrote:
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[
Hmn… let’s see:
Tall
Easygoing
Reliable
Fit
Honest
Loyal
Great hair
Yeah, pretty much and I’ve always been aware of it. In my case I think its a good thing but for women with lame dads or daddy issues it can probably get somewhat neurotic.
Anyways carry on![/quote]
What exactly constitutes as tall and great hair?[/quote]
About six feet.
Lots of hair.
EDIT: lack of hair could possibly be forgiven if disguised with a pirate hat.[/quote]
long in men faded out in the 80s. long hair on men is just plain gay and not in style. the buzz cut is in style. [/quote]
I didn’t say LONG hair. I said lots of hair. As in not BALDING.
Anyways, tell the long hair is gay to Johan Hegg.
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Completely random story featuring Johann Hegg:
I went to see Amon Amarth live in Auckland, New Zealand a few years back. They were at a smallish club venue, it held maybe 500-600 people max, and the stage was fairly small too. When the opening number started up, Hegg and the two guitarists and the bassist all crowded onto this little stage and they all started doing the spiral headbang at the same time. For the first couple of minutes, all you could see on stage was this giant fucking wall of blond hair going up and down.
Completely off-topic, seeing your post just brought back some happy memories. 
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]WhiteCrow wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
[quote]WhiteCrow wrote:
Was my question really this ridiculous or do some people need to GAL?
Anyway thanks Hydra and Jereth for the replies. If anyone else (well built & sane) wants to chime in, welcome.[/quote]
Buddy, you’re lucky you even got one or two serious responses with a silly question like this.
This is the second or third question posted by relative newbies where the OP comes in later upset at the responses.[/quote]
Please point out to me what is silly about my question?
To the serious replies: Thanks! Looks like the grass is a lot greener on the other side…this makes me even more motivated to bust my ass in the gym![/quote]
It’s NOT greener. People WILL judge you by your appearance and not everyone has a positive impression of an extremely large or muscular person. You might say well fuck them. And that’s fine. But remember, you must navigate this world and most people work for someone else. And in your quest to get big, I suggest you consider the following:
Or he could try thinking for himself.
I agree, there are people who will judge you poorly based on having big muscles. That is just life and has more to do with misconceptions, stereotypes and jealousy than anything else.
The same happens if you become famous or have the baddest looking girl on your arm or drive the nicest car.
It is up to you if you allow the judgment of others to control how you choose to present yourself.
I personally don’t like being controlled…and my body can’t hold me back if my mind is ahead of most.[/quote]
I don’t disagree with the above but it’s not my point. Most people here are or will be working in an environment where they work for someone else. In the corporate environment in particular, people’s perception and “judgment” of you matters very much. Whether we like it or not, being the huge muscular guy is not perceived well. It’s a big handicap that you have to overcome and frankly, I don’t think most are capable of overcoming it considering the average person is “just average”. You’d have to be engaging, charismatic and very competent to begin overcoming a negative perception like that.
This is not a rant against getting hyooge. It’s just a cautionary sticker. It’s reality.[/quote]
Great point. I prefer to have my hair shaved to a number 2, its very thick and makes me sweat a lot in the summer, but due to the nature of my work-and I’m self employed so if I don’t work I go broke-I need people to feel comfortable with me in their home, so I just grow my hair a bit and (according to my mum) look less ‘aggressive’. I could just do what I used to do and ‘win people’ over, but why make matters more difficult for myself? If someone has the ‘I don’t care what other people think, they can take me as I am or leave me alone’ I respect that, but they are making things more difficult for themselves if their line of work requires them to interact with other people and earn their trust.
maybe some get away with it, others don’t, but it makes things easier for me, so I do it, and the girls prefer me with hair to…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]krebcycle wrote:
With regards the average looking women thing, I have noticed that as well. They tend to be the ones who ask “why would you want to get big?” with a slight look of distaste on their faces. People like to be around people that make them feel comfortable and someone who makes them feel insecure doesn’t really fit with that.[/quote]
Exactly…and that is what many of these guys are missing when these topics come up.
The AVERAGE woman who doesn’t work out and doesn’t watch what she eats other than the usual “fad diet” is going to feel really fucking self conscious around the 250lbs guy with veins down his arms that every other woman keeps looking at.
THAT is why most say “eewwww”, not because women hate big muscles.
The average woman is so self conscious because of her upbringing and societal issues that most of them are mentally fucked when it coems to how they see themselves regardless of what they tell you.
Anyone who makes them feel worse will get an “eewww”…which would be any guy who takes his physique to an extreme that makes them look even worse.
Find a woman who is TRULY well situated as far as self esteem and you don’t see that.[/quote]
I agree, I don’t just think it applies to bodybuilding either, its just men who are generally ‘in good shape’ (however that conforms with the woman’s perception) thats why women who work out hard and are in great shape are always with men who are in great shape, or if they are not are wealthy as hell. Women definitely don’t want a man who is going to bring out and her own insecurities.
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]krebcycle wrote:
With regards the average looking women thing, I have noticed that as well. They tend to be the ones who ask “why would you want to get big?” with a slight look of distaste on their faces. People like to be around people that make them feel comfortable and someone who makes them feel insecure doesn’t really fit with that.[/quote]
Exactly…and that is what many of these guys are missing when these topics come up.
The AVERAGE woman who doesn’t work out and doesn’t watch what she eats other than the usual “fad diet” is going to feel really fucking self conscious around the 250lbs guy with veins down his arms that every other woman keeps looking at.
THAT is why most say “eewwww”, not because women hate big muscles.
The average woman is so self conscious because of her upbringing and societal issues that most of them are mentally fucked when it coems to how they see themselves regardless of what they tell you.
Anyone who makes them feel worse will get an “eewww”…which would be any guy who takes his physique to an extreme that makes them look even worse.
Find a woman who is TRULY well situated as far as self esteem and you don’t see that.[/quote]
I agree, I don’t just think it applies to bodybuilding either, its just men who are generally ‘in good shape’ (however that conforms with the woman’s perception) thats why women who work out hard and are in great shape are always with men who are in great shape, or if they are not are wealthy as hell. Women definitely don’t want a man who is going to bring out and her own insecurities.
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I’m not trying to say what you guys are saying is wrong but, is it possible that it has less to do with the average looking girl not wanting her insecurities to stand out, and more to do with the above average girl having an attention whore mindset and uses the bigger guys as another way to show themselves off? Just food for thought.
[quote]krebcycle wrote:
The opinion that people express is often not their true belief, it’s moulded by many different factors such as societal pressure, the preconceived perceptions of others, status, confidence etc.
[/quote]
Which ends up in the same result anyway!
We should all listen to the wise ones, Debra and Professor X, because they both have independently demonstrated their success in long term, serious relationships and marriage!
[quote]MentorSorg wrote:
We should all listen to the wise ones, Debra and Professor X, because they both have independently demonstrated their success in long term, serious relationships and marriage![/quote]
Dude, no offense, but why are most of your posts about me?
That is very strange…if not riding close to psychopathic.
You seem to think you are being clever though.
I hope you get someone to help you.
Don’t bother with a response. Someone this focused on only one poster must be getting quite excited simply because you got a response.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]MentorSorg wrote:
We should all listen to the wise ones, Debra and Professor X, because they both have independently demonstrated their success in long term, serious relationships and marriage![/quote]
Dude, no offense, but why are most of your posts about me?
That is very strange…if not riding close to psychopathic.
You seem to think you are being clever though.
I hope you get someone to help you.
Don’t bother with a response. Someone this focused on only one poster must be getting quite excited simply because you got a response.[/quote]
He seems to have a bit of thing for me too. =P
Anyhoo
<— approaching 17 years in a serious, monogamous relationship. So 
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]MentorSorg wrote:
We should all listen to the wise ones, Debra and Professor X, because they both have independently demonstrated their success in long term, serious relationships and marriage![/quote]
Dude, no offense, but why are most of your posts about me?
That is very strange…if not riding close to psychopathic.
You seem to think you are being clever though.
I hope you get someone to help you.
Don’t bother with a response. Someone this focused on only one poster must be getting quite excited simply because you got a response.[/quote]
He seems to have a bit of thing for me too. =P
Anyhoo
<— approaching 17 years in a serious, monogamous relationship. So [/quote]
PWNED