[quote]wiiwii wrote:
Patience Dude. You will become stronger then before, but are you sure that rippetoes is the best way?
One question: Shoulden’t you do more overhead presses since you are going to start with strongman?
Best off luck [/quote]
Agree and agree. I’m only doing Ripp for 4-6 weeks to build back some strength, then switch to Stronglifts Advanced or Starr incorporating strongman training.
My main goals are to dramatically increase my press, deadlift, and squat numbers.
That sounds like a very sound plan. Can’t wait to see your progress.
Today’s Training
military press
5x140
5x140
5x140
front squat
5x240
5x240
5x240
clean
5x165
5x165
5x165
deadhang pull-ups
8xbw
5xbw
bw = 238
I feel like I should mention that all of my lifts this round of Rippetoe are beltless. This is the best way in my mind to strengthen the lower back. Kind of like doing deadlifts without straps - delay for as long as possible.
I could have done another 5 on military. Squats were brutal. Period. Cleans were easier. CNS must have improved since last time. I also find that 3x5 is difficult. I’m huffing an puffing at the end. Anyone try 5x3 before? All pull-ups have and will be dead hang. I don’t want any doubt when I improve.
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
I feel like I should mention that all of my lifts this round of Rippetoe are beltless. This is the best way in my mind to strengthen the lower back. Kind of like doing deadlifts without straps - delay for as long as possible.
[quote]
I tried to explain this thinking to one of the guys in my gym, but he seemed a little shocked and repulsed that I wanted to continue squatting/deadlifting 200+ without a belt. I figure I’ll use it when I need it.
[quote]darwin420 wrote:
TheDudeAbides wrote:
I feel like I should mention that all of my lifts this round of Rippetoe are beltless. This is the best way in my mind to strengthen the lower back. Kind of like doing deadlifts without straps - delay for as long as possible.
I tried to explain this thinking to one of the guys in my gym, but he seemed a little shocked and repulsed that I wanted to continue squatting/deadlifting 200+ without a belt. I figure I’ll use it when I need it.[/quote]
Funny. This just came out on Stronglifts today.
Print it out and give it to him. My motivation, or rather reason, is that there are plenty of lifters on this site that DL 400+ without a belt. Some much more. The other thing is that you and I are not lifting maximum or supra maximal weights.
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
Funny. This just came out on Stronglifts today.
Print it out and give it to him. My motivation, or rather reason, is that there are plenty of lifters on this site that DL 400+ without a belt. Some much more. The other thing is that you and I are not lifting maximum or supra maximal weights.[/quote]
Echoing my sentiments exactly. Good article. I think I will print it off and keep it next to me when I lift, lol
Today’s Training
bench press
5x225
5x225
5x225
front squats
5x245
5x245
5x245 w/ belt
deadlift, no belt
3x325
2x325 w/ straps
dips
12xbw
16xbw
bw = 240
Funny. After discussing with Darwin on why it is a good idea NOT to use a belt, I used a belt. Made a big difference. I was wondering why it seemed heavy, when I have surpassed this weight by 50 lbs in the past. Is this an indication of weak abs/lower back? I feel like I am back on track though.
Deadlifts felt great. Except for the part where I couldn’t hold onto the bar. This was touched on in the T-Cell, PR thread. Don’t let something like hold you back from lifting more weight.
Other good news. I’m finally getting my much needed dip belt. I’m hoping this will translate into a much more powerful bench.
if you use chalk i highly doubt you’ll need straps… if the gym has chalk.
[quote]lordstorm88 wrote:
if you use chalk i highly doubt you’ll need straps… if the gym has chalk.[/quote]
Nope. No chalk.
Not that they don’t allow it, I just don’t have any.
hey im a beginner and i just finished my first week of starting strength. i worked out for about 2-3 months before this program and i made some modest gains but im trying to stick with rippetoe’s.
im pretty thin 5’8 at about 150 pounds. i know this program will help me with strength gains, but what about size? my goal’s to pack some muscle to this frame of mine haha, not only to get stronger.
yo TheDude, I just started 5x3 on power cleans after a few weeks of 3x5. So far I prefer it. I probably rest a bit more in total, but on the heavy sets of 5 I tend to lose form on the last few. My form is a lot more solid with 5x3. I figure, what’s the point if my form is garbage? Why not give it a try for a workout?
After going to four different stores, no one in town has a dip belt. Dick’s, Dunhams’, I even tried GNC and Vitamin World for the off chance that they sell belts. Ugh
[quote]seaside wrote:
hey im a beginner and i just finished my first week of starting strength. i worked out for about 2-3 months before this program and i made some modest gains but im trying to stick with rippetoe’s. im pretty thin 5’8 at about 150 pounds. i know this program will help me with strength gains, but what about size? my goal’s to pack some muscle to this frame of mine haha, not only to get stronger. [/quote]
Diet. Food. That will be the BIG difference. With strength comes size. It will happen. Just don’t give up. How much are you currently eating?
Just checking in man. . . looking strong! Also, I really don’t think it could hurt to throw some ab work in. I do a little here and there if I feel like it that particular day.
-Matt
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
seaside wrote:
hey im a beginner and i just finished my first week of starting strength. i worked out for about 2-3 months before this program and i made some modest gains but im trying to stick with rippetoe’s. im pretty thin 5’8 at about 150 pounds. i know this program will help me with strength gains, but what about size? my goal’s to pack some muscle to this frame of mine haha, not only to get stronger.
Diet. Food. That will be the BIG difference. With strength comes size. It will happen. Just don’t give up. How much are you currently eating?[/quote]
trying to take in about 2500 calories a day, clean. its pretty hard to do haha. im trying to limit carbs on non-workout days and take in a little more on my workout days. hoepfully that will get me some size gains
[quote]seaside wrote:
TheDudeAbides wrote:
seaside wrote:
hey im a beginner and i just finished my first week of starting strength. i worked out for about 2-3 months before this program and i made some modest gains but im trying to stick with rippetoe’s. im pretty thin 5’8 at about 150 pounds. i know this program will help me with strength gains, but what about size? my goal’s to pack some muscle to this frame of mine haha, not only to get stronger.
Diet. Food. That will be the BIG difference. With strength comes size. It will happen. Just don’t give up. How much are you currently eating?
trying to take in about 2500 calories a day, clean. its pretty hard to do haha. im trying to limit carbs on non-workout days and take in a little more on my workout days. hoepfully that will get me some size gains[/quote]
Just keep in mind that as you begin to gain strength/weight you will slowly need to ramp up the calories. For me personally I would tank on the SS program eating 2500 calories. Don’t be afraid to eat more if you’re progress isn’t there.
-Matt
[quote]seaside wrote:
trying to take in about 2500 calories a day, clean. its pretty hard to do haha. im trying to limit carbs on non-workout days and take in a little more on my workout days. hoepfully that will get me some size gains[/quote]
from your thread:
Although it might seem like you’re eating enough, you’re most likely not. From your stats, I’m guessing you have a quick metabolism. Yes/no? You should slowly increase that to 3000-3500 daily. No joke. You’ve got to eat more than what you are burning. How much is that? Trial and error. Each week increase your daily by 100 Cals. Stayed the same or lost - eat more. Gained - good range.
I think you’re trying to maintain your BF with trying to gain strength AND gain mass. One of those has to give. You might gain some fat - not a biggie since, again with a quicker metabolism, you should be able to lose any excess chub in a short amount of time.
You should also know, that it takes a lot hard work, eating, and time to get ‘bulky’.
[quote]donpalmero wrote:
yo TheDude, I just started 5x3 on power cleans after a few weeks of 3x5. So far I prefer it. I probably rest a bit more in total, but on the heavy sets of 5 I tend to lose form on the last few. My form is a lot more solid with 5x3. I figure, what’s the point if my form is garbage? Why not give it a try for a workout?[/quote]
Thanks for experimenting. I’m going to give that a try today.
Shoot, I was going to mention that. There’s a huge Rippetoe thread at bb.com and in that it actually recommends doing cleans at 5x3 as it is a more technical lift.
-Matt
actually it generally is better to always do olympic lift movements with less reps. unless you are trying to improve form there is no reason to go with more reps. its not like you can reach almost failure on an olympic lift. its more about form and full acceleration. if you dont have full at some point you will miss the heavy set. if you dont have great form you will miss.
plus you always deload the weight after every rep and set up again