The Downfall of T-Nation

What is the deal with these guys that feel they can post whetever obnoxious crap they feel like and then they whine when someone calls them on it?

The freedom of expression extends to all of us.

You can express your asshole opinions and I can express my opinion you are an asshole.

Ugh, I’ve actually rethought my position on this one a few times, it isn’t “manly” to sit here spouting off lewd comments about a girl just cause she put up a few pics. I do appreciate the locker room humor once in awhile, but when a woman posts her pictures here for feedback, shit just goes out of control.

I’m just as horny as most of you guys, but show a little restraint…you remind me of my buddies after they have had too many drinks and are shouting obscenities at the girl across the street who in turn flips them off. Then they call her a slut and wonder why they are going home by themselves again…in case you were wondering, I have a girlfriend and don’t even get the joy of making obscene comments and getting shut down.

Way to go Dez! You got all the assholes out of the crapper and swarming around the nest. You DA MAN! Now if we could just figure out how to move that nest of swarming assholes to Iraq maybe we could scare talk the bad boys into submission and all this bullshit talk would have accomplished something.

Dez for Prez!!!

[quote]vroom wrote:
Jimfound wrote:
As far as those who try to defend the “hapless female victims”…

I’m going to have to agree with Rainjack on this one.

The simple online comment “I’d hit it” is one thing between people sharing an inside joke, but having eventually made a few female friends around here, some of them don’t appreciate the bizarre PM’s and virtual stalking that seems to go on less visibly.

Believe it or not, sometimes, some women actually just want to be people and to be taken seriously.

Also, sometimes, women can be afraid of some whacko guy that keeps trying to find out where she is and whether or not she’d like to meet up some time.

While I am not trying to win the most sensitive guy award, I don’t think it is fair to dismiss the issues that some people face because you (and I) are lucky enough to never see the issue first hand.[/quote]

I’d just like to highlight here: the point about the PM’s is right on. i see a huge difference between “i want to bang you” posted in a thread and one sent in a PM. in the thread, while it may not be appreciated, its not meant as offensive or anything of the sort. in a PM, it’s as if the sender is expecting to get a response back like “ok, where do you want to meet”…and yea, that’s old man/little boy creepy.

[quote]dez6485 wrote:
…i see a huge difference between “i want to bang you” posted in a thread and one sent in a PM. in the thread, while it may not be appreciated, its not meant as offensive or anything of the sort. in a PM, it’s as if the sender is expecting to get a response back like “ok, where do you want to meet”…and yea, that’s old man/little boy creepy.[/quote]

What’s the difference? Youhave been told by at least two women that the lewdness of the comments you make is not appreciated.

Let me just say this - if Gojira is on your ass about it, it’s offensive.

It is beyond me how - “I want to fuck you” is anywhere near a compliment when the female in question is looking for training/nutrition feedback.

I guess that is the difference between little boys and men. Men have tact, and the ability to determine when and where it is appropriate to let loose. Little boys think they have the right to show their nuts anytime anyplace.

[quote]Avoids Roids wrote:
Way to go Dez! You got all the assholes out of the crapper and swarming around the nest. You DA MAN! Now if we could just figure out how to move that nest of swarming assholes to Iraq maybe we could scare talk the bad boys into submission and all this bullshit talk would have accomplished something.

Dez for Prez!!![/quote]

haha! yes! and all the while people were slicing each other up, and throwing my name around, i was out in some bars in College Park with a bunch of guys and girls that i know, being completely respectful! i even capped off the night by helping one of the girls wash a bunch of dishes that were piled up in her sink…of course, the whole time i was referring to her as “woman” and degrading her in various other ways.

RAINJACK-
now that all of this has been blown way up, please go back to that physique and performance post and find the post where I said i wanted “to fuck” anyone, since the argument youre using is that those are the things i was throwing around.

also, do you drive a car? if so, youll be referred to as golf-cart boy from now on…because apparently youre just cracking yourself up referring to me as scooter boy based on the fact that i have a motorcycle.

and another thing, youre arguing that people wouldnt say these things in person in a club. when was the last time you were in a club? when was the last time you watched “the kids” dancing at a club? most of the people on the dance floor are practically fucking in the clubs in maryland. i know many people that have even had sex in a club. now, what do you suppose was said to make that deal go down?

furthermore, the comments you make are definitely more personal attacks on people than the ones that are being made to you. in that P+P thread, you insinuated that i was the kind of guy that was going to be preying on girls too drunk to know what was going on. thats called rape. im no rapist, far from it. if i met someone that i knew was a rapist, id probably rip their face off. ive roughed up friends of mine for trying to scoop up the girl that obviously doesnt know whats going on.

point being, rape, and that sort of behavior, isnt something to joke about. its not a subject you should touch without knowing someone’s background/experience on the subject.

pay my own rent- eh, youre not offending me there. im 21, senior in college, but i moved back home for personal reasons. however, i could buy my own house, and have roommates pay my mortgage if i wanted to.

take it easy golf-cart jockey

“Hey if your ever having another craving for some nuts, just drop me a line, I’d be happy to lend you mine.”

“Aye honestly hate it when women post pics here because it sends all of the men into a test-frenzy, nothing constructive will get said(unless a married guy steps in).”

both of the above statements were posted by Hannibal King, in the Physique and Performance thread that golf-cart boy is referring to, not even two days apart.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
dez6485 wrote:
…i see a huge difference between “i want to bang you” posted in a thread and one sent in a PM. in the thread, while it may not be appreciated, its not meant as offensive or anything of the sort. in a PM, it’s as if the sender is expecting to get a response back like “ok, where do you want to meet”…and yea, that’s old man/little boy creepy.

What’s the difference? Youhave been told by at least two women that the lewdness of the comments you make is not appreciated.

Let me just say this - if Gojira is on your ass about it, it’s offensive.

It is beyond me how - “I want to fuck you” is anywhere near a compliment when the female in question is looking for training/<a class=l href=http://webmaxsearch.com?qq=nutrition onmouseover=“return (window.status=‘nutrition’);” onmouseout=“window.status=‘’;”>nutrition feedback.

I guess that is the difference between little boys and men. Men have tact, and the ability to determine when and where it is appropriate to let loose. Little boys think they have the right to show their nuts anytime anyplace. [/quote]

again, please go find my post where i said “i want to fuck you”. we’ll all wait here. as far as Gojira, ive seen a pic somewhere on here of her back, and i thought it was DAMN sexy. if she would have a problem with me making that statement…well i just dont know. and the bike pics shes posted…my god…i dont remember if i saw a knucklehead, flathead, panhead, or shovel, but my god was that sexy too.

Dez,

Nobody is saying appreciation can never be expressed, but even in the clubs you describe, it is the rare classless loser that wanders around saying “I want to fuck you” to women hoping that one will agree.

Where on the continuum you wish to fall is up to you, but don’t bitch about it if people call you on it.

[quote]vroom wrote:
Dez,

Nobody is saying appreciation can never be expressed, but even in the clubs you describe, it is the rare classless loser that wanders around saying “I want to fuck you” to women hoping that one will agree.

Where on the continuum you wish to fall is up to you, but don’t bitch about it if people call you on it.[/quote]

Vroom,

While I do respect what you’re saying, it is important that what I am saying is heard as well. I challenge anyone to go into that thread and find the post where I told a girl that I wanted to fuck her. A comment was posted that someone would like to see her in dental floss and postage stamps…a statement that is clearly so ridiculous that it has to be a joke. I lightheartedly agreed with the statement. I can assure you I don’t sit around fantasizing about girls wearing little postage stamp/dental floss bikinis.

I mean, I don’t know, I think there’s something hot about short skirts and high heels, or just plain fucking naked. If I was sitting around like a perv, making a serious comment about wanting to see some girl naked, I suppose I would have requested either one of those.

Another point, quite honestly, I think many of us just live in completely different cultures. The culture of a 21yr old college student is nowhere near that of a 40ish golf-cart jockey. The 20ish year difference is a big difference. And from the point of view of my age, I can tell you that the balding 40 year old that is standing around the dance floor in the club is a hell of a lot more creepy than the “dialogue” between a guy and whatever girl he happens to be dancing with. I can’t say that I personally have ever been dancing with a girl (which in the clubs in Maryland, is pretty much grinding/dry humping) and straight out said “i want to fuck you”. I don’t think I have ever said that, unless of course it was to a girlfriend. I have said “what are you doing after this” and things like that. The worst reception I’ve had to that would be something along the lines of “I have a class early tomorrow, but why don’t you call me tomorrow night”. Maybe Maryland is just a whole lot sluttier and promiscuous than other places, I don’t know.

[quote]dez6485 wrote:
RAINJACK-
now that all of this has been blown way up, please go back to that physique and performance post and find the post where I said i wanted “to fuck” anyone, since the argument youre using is that those are the things i was throwing around.[/quote]

I made a post in the thread in question that never mentioned a specific member. You took it upon yourself to be the spokesmodel for the lewd, rude, asshole side by defending your right to say what you want when you want - even going as far to say that this is now pussyboy nation.

If you don’t want to be labeled and branded a certain way - why would you go out of your way to start a fight defending that certain way?

I could care less whether you said anything or not. You took it upon yourself to start this thread about it, and post in the powerful image thread about it. You smell as guilty as OJ.

Not a car - but close. But if I owned an 84 Chrysler, you can be sure you would not see a photo of me tounging it. I guess the same can’t be said for you and your P.O.S. Honda.

Read up before you post up, scooter. I have already touched on this topic.

You advocate being able to say whatever the fuck you want to girls over the internet. You even went so far as to accuse the OP of the thread in question of begging for it, and being nothing more than an attention whore. I can tell you are a real class act.

SO let me get this straight - if they are too drunk to say no, that is off limits. But if they are sober enough to ignore you then they are attention whores, and you have the right to say whatever you wnat to them?

Like I said - class act all they way.

[quote]pay my own rent- eh, youre not offending me there. im 21, senior in college, but i moved back home for personal reasons. however, i could buy my own house, and have roommates pay my mortgage if i wanted to.

take it easy golf-cart jockey[/quote]

It wasn’t meant as an insult. It was meant to show your inability to even provide for yourself the basic needs. Yet you are going to try and tell me how smooth you are with the fairer sex?

Dude - chicks dig jobs, not your mom’s basement. Just because the equipment works does not mean you have any idea about how it is supposed to be used.

wow, why didnt i follow this thread from the get go? maybe it was the length of the op’s opening statement, combined with my diminshed mental capacity to read bullshit. thats neither here nor there, jack is putting the smack down on all takers. and guy with the honda, why put that pic up? it’s not exactly a hog to be proud of. then again i dont even have the nads to ride a motorcycle(or a scooter ;). you must have really hit a nerve with jack, i havent seen a rampage like that for a minute. keep up the good work.

now if you’ll excuse me, it’s back to the shadows on this thread.

The original post in this thread is the most useless post I have ever seen

jsal33

[quote]rainjack wrote:
dez6485 wrote:
RAINJACK-
now that all of this has been blown way up, please go back to that physique and performance post and find the post where I said i wanted “to fuck” anyone, since the argument youre using is that those are the things i was throwing around.

I made a post in the thread in question that never mentioned a specific member. You took it upon yourself to be the spokesmodel for the lewd, rude, asshole side by defending your right to say what you want when you want - even going as far to say that this is now pussyboy nation.

If you don’t want to be labeled and branded a certain way - why would you go out of your way to start a fight defending that certain way?

I could care less whether you said anything or not. You took it upon yourself to start this thread about it, and post in the powerful image thread about it. You smell as guilty as OJ.

also, do you drive a car? if so, youll be referred to as golf-cart boy from now on…because apparently youre just cracking yourself up referring to me as scooter boy based on the fact that i have a motorcycle.

Not a car - but close. But if I owned an 84 Chrysler, you can be sure you would not see a photo of me tounging it. I guess the same can’t be said for you and your P.O.S. Honda.

and another thing, youre arguing that people wouldnt say these things in person in a club. when was the last time you were in a club? when was the last time you watched “the kids” dancing at a club? most of the people on the dance floor are practically fucking in the clubs in maryland. i know many people that have even had <a class=l href=http://webmaxsearch.com?qq=sex onmouseover=“return (window.status=‘sex’);” onmouseout=“window.status=‘’;”>sex in a club. now, what do you suppose was said to make that deal go down?

Read up before you post up, scooter. I have already touched on this topic.

furthermore, the comments you make are definitely more personal attacks on people than the ones that are being made to you. in that P+P thread, you insinuated that i was the kind of guy that was going to be preying on girls too drunk to know what was going on. thats called rape. im no rapist, far from it. if i met someone that i knew was a rapist, id probably rip their face off. ive roughed up friends of mine for trying to scoop up the girl that obviously doesnt know whats going on.

You advocate being able to say whatever the fuck you want to girls over the internet. You even went so far as to accuse the OP of the thread in question of begging for it, and being nothing more than an attention whore. I can tell you are a real class act.

SO let me get this straight - if they are too drunk to say no, that is off limits. But if they are sober enough to ignore you then they are attention whores, and you have the right to say whatever you wnat to them?

Like I said - class act all they way.

pay my own rent- eh, youre not offending me there. im 21, senior in college, but i moved back home for personal reasons. however, i could buy my own house, and have roommates pay my mortgage if i wanted to.

take it easy golf-cart jockey

It wasn’t meant as an insult. It was meant to show your inability to even provide for yourself the basic needs. Yet you are going to try and tell me how smooth you are with the fairer <a class=l href=http://webmaxsearch.com?qq=sex onmouseover=“return (window.status=‘sex’);” onmouseout=“window.status=‘’;”>sex?

Dude - chicks dig <a class=l href=http://webmaxsearch.com?qq=jobs onmouseover=“return (window.status=‘jobs’);” onmouseout=“window.status=‘’;”>jobs, not your mom’s basement. Just because the equipment works does not mean you have any idea about how it is supposed to be used.

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my little brother is a freshman in highschool, therefore cant drive himself to school. my mom has severe fibro mialgia, assfuck. look that up, you might understand why i live at home with mommy.

you made another remark in a different thread about me living at home with mommy and daddy. the last time i saw daddy was when i was 17, in court, when my daddy was getting a restraining order against me- his reaction to me protecting my mom.

and im a fulltime student, but that doesnt stand in the way of me also being a realtor. im about to list a house for $839,000. being an accountant and all, you should be able to get your calculator and figure out how much commission ill be making off of that. im sorry you dont like my motorcycle, i bought it with winnings from a few hours on a craps table in vegas. its 29 years old and in very good condition. paint isnt original, but could easily be restored. its on a list of bikes that are starting to be snatched up by collectors. i also own outright a 2004 lexus is300. tell me, mr. golf-cart jockey accountant, with $42k in the bank, my P.O.S. honda motorcycle, my paid-off 2004 lexus, and the sale of a ~$840k house coming up, how’s my balance sheet stacking up?

you’re right, chicks do dig jobs. but i can assure you, they love my moms basement.

[quote]mazilla wrote:
wow, why didnt i follow this thread from the get go? maybe it was the length of the op’s opening statement, combined with my diminshed mental capacity to read bullshit. thats neither here nor there, jack is putting the smack down on all takers. and guy with the honda, why put that pic up? it’s not exactly a hog to be proud of. then again i dont even have the nads to ride a motorcycle(or a scooter ;). you must have really hit a nerve with jack, i havent seen a rampage like that for a minute. keep up the good work.

now if you’ll excuse me, it’s back to the shadows on this thread.[/quote]

dude, if youre referring to the pic of me and my bike in the girl’s thread, i didnt put that in there, golf-cart jockey rainjack did. if youre asking why i put it in my profile…why not? im sorry that you dont think my bike is all that cool. i dig bikes, lots of different kinds. i think sport bikes look cool and all of that, but ive personally had what id consider near death experiences on them, shit that has scared me, so i stay away from them.

the only bike i own right now is that red honda. its a 1977 honda cb750 supersport. its a classic. no offense, but if you arent into the world of “the horse backstreet choppers” or know anything about the history of AMA racing and such, i guess you really wouldnt get the nostalgia of that bike. to be honest with you, im not even thrilled about the way the bike rides. until this bike ive ridden mostly indians and harleys, and i wanted to have a certain amount of cash built up before i bought a harley. by the 1st of the new year, i should be there, and ive got a harley road king police special lined up ready for purchase in the spring. again, that may not even be a bike that you dig, but when im done making some modifications do it, itll look cool. besides, my uncle, who means a great deal to me, is a cop. were both buying these police bikes, something were going to do together, etc.

[quote]jsal33 wrote:
The original post in this thread is the most useless post I have ever seen

jsal33[/quote]

possibly, but look at the response it got…i mean, were really getting into it here!

where you at in Mass?

[quote]dez6485 wrote:
you made another remark in a different thread about me living at home with mommy and daddy. the last time i saw daddy was when i was 17, in court, when my daddy was getting a restraining order against me- his reaction to me protecting my mom.[/quote]

And you still think it’s okay to treat women like pieces of meat in spite of this?

I guess the apple doen’t fall too far from the tree - restraining order or not.

golf clap
good job!
golf clap

[quote]you’re right, chicks do dig jobs. but i can assure you, they love my moms basement.
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Dude - that’s sick. You are going to use your mom as an excuse as to why you won’t leave the house - yet you will fuck some drunk chick in her basement while she is upstairs suffering?

I’d hate to see the type of girl that would get off on that kind of Norman Bates shit. Maybe it’s a Maryland thing.

Another point that hasn’t been made yet is that while I enjoy posting in the “sorority”, there are a lot of knowledgeable guys that don’t go in there and sometimes I would like to get their input, too. A woman should be able to post unprovocative pictures of herself and ask for advice anywhere on this site and be treated with respect, not as an attention-seeking whore.

As someone said very well on the other thread, you can compliment a woman without making her feel like a hooker. Some of you need to learn some self-restraint and keep your stupid, lewd, useless comments to yourselves.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Dude - that’s sick. You are going to use your mom as an excuse as to why you won’t leave the house - yet you will fuck some drunk chick in her basement while she is upstairs suffering?

I’d hate to see the type of girl that would get off on that kind of Norman Bates shit. Maybe it’s a Maryland thing.

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Ok…I am pretty sure that was uncalled for.

Look rainjack…you win. You are captain fucking Internet already. E-Protector of women’s honor.

Just don’t continue to call people’s class into question when you continuosly post insults like the one above.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
dez6485 wrote:
you made another remark in a different thread about me living at home with mommy and daddy. the last time i saw daddy was when i was 17, in court, when my daddy was getting a restraining order against me- his reaction to me protecting my mom.

And you still think it’s okay to treat women like pieces of meat in spite of this?

Ok Dr. Phil. Have you ever, in your entire life, looked at pornography? Go ahead, I dare you to say no.

I guess the apple doen’t fall too far from the tree - restraining order or not.

That’s a very personal blow right there buddy, considering you have no idea what I was protecting my mother from. My asshole of a father beat his wife, beat his kids, and eventually lost everything because of his drug habbit. A couple of years after the divorce, while I was at school, he broke into the house and raped my mom. I was 13. You sharpen your knives to protect your daughter. I lift weights and am never too far from my glock in case I ever see that man again. I’ve got a scar over my left eye, just under my eyebrow, complements of my dad and a razor blade. That scar has been with me about 19 years now, and is a daily reminder of what not to do. You can insinuate all you want, and make it out like i objectify women and treat them like shit, because i made comments about a hot girl on the internet, but you don’t know me, sorry. Go ahead, twist any of that around and show all of us what a class act you are. We’ll all golf clap for you as well.

and im a fulltime student, but that doesnt stand in the way of me also being a realtor. im about to list a house for $839,000. being an accountant and all, you should be able to get your calculator and figure out how much commission ill be making off of that. im sorry you dont like my motorcycle, i bought it with winnings from a few hours on a craps table in vegas. its 29 years old and in very good condition. paint isnt original, but could easily be restored. its on a list of bikes that are starting to be snatched up by collectors. i also own outright a 2004 lexus is300. tell me, mr. golf-cart jockey accountant, with $42k in the bank, my P.O.S. honda motorcycle, my paid-off 2004 lexus, and the sale of a ~$840k house coming up, how’s my balance sheet stacking up?

golf clap
good job!
golf clap

you’re right, chicks do dig <a class=l href=http://webmaxsearch.com?qq=jobs onmouseover=“return (window.status=‘jobs’);” onmouseout=“window.status=‘’;”>jobs. but i can assure you, they love my moms basement.

Dude - that’s sick. You are going to use your mom as an excuse as to why you won’t leave the house - yet you will fuck some drunk chick in her basement while she is upstairs suffering?

See, here’s a perfect example of you throwing words around as if someone said them, like you kept throwing that “i want to fuck you” line around. I never said I was fucking drunk chicks in my Mom’s basment. Considering I left “regular” college life to come home and help out, you saying that I am using my Mom as an excuse to stay in the house makes you sound pretty ignorant.

I’d hate to see the type of girl that would get off on that kind of Norman Bates shit. Maybe it’s a Maryland thing.

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