Hit an easy 480 on the 2.5in axle today. Missed 530 at slightly below the knee. I was wearing power pants. I think with a normal bar and no briefs I’m right around 520ish. Speed work is definitely helping.
I am now behind the starting line…I couldn’t budge 475 today
I guess all the bs that is going in my life right now is affecting my training
This thread is awesome.
[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Moose wrote:
[quote]
Oh, and 405 to 450 is a 10% jump. If you add 5 or 10lbs each week, you’ll be at 500 in less than half a year. There’s no need to rush it.[/quote]
Just increasing the weight every week will not work for too long, I tried last year. I had just made a new PR @ 260 Kg and was going to try the method you mentioned to see if a different approch was going to make me stronger. Took two weeks of and did 5 reps @ 210, week 2: 6 @ 212,5Kg, week 3: 4 @ 215Kg, week 4: 5 @ 217,5. Week 5: 220 was nailed to the floor, couldn’t even get 1 single rep!!
Change it up a bit, do some DL-variation for 2-3 weeks and them swich to Good morning, hip-thrusts etc for a few week and then get back to DL.
Just DL-ing every week didn’t work for me. Right now I DL every 8 days with deload every forth week, aiming for 300 Kg by the end of the year.[/quote]
I’m going to reference the previously posted article. Do you not bench to increase your bench? Do you not squat to increase your squat? Why would you not deadlift to increase your deadlift?[/quote]
Of course you deadlift but the DL is quite a bit harder on the CNS than squat and bench so DLing hard and heavy every week is too much for most people (in my humble opinion), less frequent DL workouts will usually give better results longterm. That doesn’t mean that you don’t train at all for the DL, there’re a lot of exercises you can do to strengthen the DL-muscles that will benefit yout DL.
I’ve just changed my program to DL every 9 days.
[quote]Mr. Moose wrote:
[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Moose wrote:
[quote]
Oh, and 405 to 450 is a 10% jump. If you add 5 or 10lbs each week, you’ll be at 500 in less than half a year. There’s no need to rush it.[/quote]
Just increasing the weight every week will not work for too long, I tried last year. I had just made a new PR @ 260 Kg and was going to try the method you mentioned to see if a different approch was going to make me stronger. Took two weeks of and did 5 reps @ 210, week 2: 6 @ 212,5Kg, week 3: 4 @ 215Kg, week 4: 5 @ 217,5. Week 5: 220 was nailed to the floor, couldn’t even get 1 single rep!!
Change it up a bit, do some DL-variation for 2-3 weeks and them swich to Good morning, hip-thrusts etc for a few week and then get back to DL.
Just DL-ing every week didn’t work for me. Right now I DL every 8 days with deload every forth week, aiming for 300 Kg by the end of the year.[/quote]
I’m going to reference the previously posted article. Do you not bench to increase your bench? Do you not squat to increase your squat? Why would you not deadlift to increase your deadlift?[/quote]
Of course you deadlift but the DL is quite a bit harder on the CNS than squat and bench so DLing hard and heavy every week is too much for most people (in my humble opinion), less frequent DL workouts will usually give better results longterm. That doesn’t mean that you don’t train at all for the DL, there’re a lot of exercises you can do to strengthen the DL-muscles that will benefit yout DL.
I’ve just changed my program to DL every 9 days.[/quote]
This is 10 million percent correct. I only pull heavy once a month and that has taken my deadlift through the roof.
I’ve tried deadlifting once every three weeks and my deadlift went down. I started pulling every week and it started going up again. Guess it just depends on the person.
[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
I’ve tried deadlifting once every three weeks and my deadlift went down. I started pulling every week and it started going up again. Guess it just depends on the person.[/quote]
Not only is this true but eventually you will find you stall again and have to try a different approach.
Right now I am on the “speed work every week, heavy DL every other week” approach
Heres a vid of the 550 pull from last week. Form aint great, I know. I keep looking up for some reason and I tend to straighten my legs too soon when dealing with the last few reps of a set and with a max. Lots of correcting to do! But here it is anyway.
EDIT: If any of you have some advice on the form please do comment.
[quote]tokyopop wrote:
EDIT: If any of you have some advice on the form please do comment. [/quote]
You should be doing 600 right now. Ditch the straps. Not because I think they are “gay” or becuase its “pussy shit” but because they ruin deadlifts. You have zero hip drive and its because 1) you waste time and kinetic energy screwing around with the straps and 2)the bar is too close to your shins.
A deadlift is a pull up and back, almost a 45 degree angle. There is nothing to pull back on if the bar is too close. Set it up on the middle of your foot or further out(I like it on the last lace closest to my toes). The whole point of that Andy Bolton style hip pump before you pull is to get the slack out of the bar and load your hamstrings. I couldnt really tell from the angle but it looked like you didnt really get the slack out before you began your pull. Thats what causes your hips to shoot up first. When you dont get the slack out, the deadlift turns into 2 seperate pulls. One that jerks the slack out of the bar and totally screws up your body position and the second is the actual pull.
Fixing those little things will raise your deadlift (pun intended) in one workout.
[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
[quote]tokyopop wrote:
EDIT: If any of you have some advice on the form please do comment. [/quote]
You should be doing 600 right now. Ditch the straps. Not because I think they are “gay” or becuase its “pussy shit” but because they ruin deadlifts. You have zero hip drive and its because 1) you waste time and kinetic energy screwing around with the straps and 2)the bar is too close to your shins.
A deadlift is a pull up and back, almost a 45 degree angle. There is nothing to pull back on if the bar is too close. Set it up on the middle of your foot or further out(I like it on the last lace closest to my toes). The whole point of that Andy Bolton style hip pump before you pull is to get the slack out of the bar and load your hamstrings. I couldnt really tell from the angle but it looked like you didnt really get the slack out before you began your pull. Thats what causes your hips to shoot up first. When you dont get the slack out, the deadlift turns into 2 seperate pulls. One that jerks the slack out of the bar and totally screws up your body position and the second is the actual pull.
Fixing those little things will raise your deadlift (pun intended) in one workout.[/quote]
Yea I don’t think you can see it from that angel but yea I was pulling some slack off the bar. I was also just psyching myself up lol I was quite nervous about this lift. Thanks for the advice man! I don’t have the grip strength to hold much more than 200kgs though so I guess I’ll be working on that too now. Its funny you mention the bar being too close to my shins. I never used to do it like that until recently, thinking that it being away from my shins might cause me to get less hip drive somehow. Thanks for mentioning that. I’ll work on all of the things you mentioned.
Thanks again for the advice.
I can’t see your video Tokyopop
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I can’t see your video Tokyopop[/quote]
Here ya go
Ah! Sweet. Now the other one is showing too.
StormTheBeach made some amazing recommendations for you so I can’t really add much as those are the biggest things to work on.
That was pretty fast though.
[quote]tokyopop wrote:
[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
[quote]tokyopop wrote:
EDIT: If any of you have some advice on the form please do comment. [/quote]
You should be doing 600 right now. Ditch the straps. Not because I think they are “gay” or becuase its “pussy shit” but because they ruin deadlifts. You have zero hip drive and its because 1) you waste time and kinetic energy screwing around with the straps and 2)the bar is too close to your shins.
A deadlift is a pull up and back, almost a 45 degree angle. There is nothing to pull back on if the bar is too close. Set it up on the middle of your foot or further out(I like it on the last lace closest to my toes). The whole point of that Andy Bolton style hip pump before you pull is to get the slack out of the bar and load your hamstrings. I couldnt really tell from the angle but it looked like you didnt really get the slack out before you began your pull. Thats what causes your hips to shoot up first. When you dont get the slack out, the deadlift turns into 2 seperate pulls. One that jerks the slack out of the bar and totally screws up your body position and the second is the actual pull.
Fixing those little things will raise your deadlift (pun intended) in one workout.[/quote]
Yea I don’t think you can see it from that angel but yea I was pulling some slack off the bar. I was also just psyching myself up lol I was quite nervous about this lift. Thanks for the advice man! I don’t have the grip strength to hold much more than 200kgs though so I guess I’ll be working on that too now. Its funny you mention the bar being too close to my shins. I never used to do it like that until recently, thinking that it being away from my shins might cause me to get less hip drive somehow. Thanks for mentioning that. I’ll work on all of the things you mentioned.
Thanks again for the advice. [/quote]
No problem man. Give it a shot. You will have hip drive. Its the only way you can have hip drive. They way you are pulling now, you have very little and you are still getting 550 off the floor 10 million miles an hour. It’s very impressive but fixing it will make 650 much more impressive! Good luck.
My status on this is bad. I dropped about 7 lbs and my deadlift is down to about 475. I’m starting to rebound a bit and feel my strength drop starting to ebb.
I doubt getting 545 until I start putting some of the weight back on, but I’m hoping for triple bodyweight within a month or so.
there were some great advice in those last two pages
I am gonna start alterning speed work/max effort for the deadlift, we’ll see how this goes
I guess I’m late to this, but wtf, I’m in. Pulled 505 with straps and a belt bout a month ago, felt like I had more in the tank. For those that care, BW is 185 and on the way down (it’s not a choice).
Right now I’m taking some time off deadlifting since I hit it pretty hard before the 505 (lots of pulls against bands and speed work), using a lot of good mornings and more back squats for my ME movements to see if letting off helps.
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
Hit an easy 480 on the 2.5in axle today. Missed 530 at slightly below the knee. I was wearing power pants. I think with a normal bar and no briefs I’m right around 520ish. Speed work is definitely helping. [/quote]
Fuck me. Awesome axle pull dude.
I have been mostly focusing on fixing my pathetic squat this year but my deadlift have actually improved a little even though I haven’t bothered as much as I used to with it. Probably because my start is where I’m weak and the squats have carried over nicely. I’m in! 
I have video of an easy 220kg from a few months back and today I did 200kgx6 (440lbs) and got it on video. I’ll upload those later.
[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
[quote]tokyopop wrote:
EDIT: If any of you have some advice on the form please do comment. [/quote]
You should be doing 600 right now. Ditch the straps. Not because I think they are “gay” or becuase its “pussy shit” but because they ruin deadlifts. You have zero hip drive and its because 1) you waste time and kinetic energy screwing around with the straps and 2)the bar is too close to your shins.
A deadlift is a pull up and back, almost a 45 degree angle. There is nothing to pull back on if the bar is too close. Set it up on the middle of your foot or further out(I like it on the last lace closest to my toes). The whole point of that Andy Bolton style hip pump before you pull is to get the slack out of the bar and load your hamstrings. I couldnt really tell from the angle but it looked like you didnt really get the slack out before you began your pull. Thats what causes your hips to shoot up first. When you dont get the slack out, the deadlift turns into 2 seperate pulls. One that jerks the slack out of the bar and totally screws up your body position and the second is the actual pull.
Fixing those little things will raise your deadlift (pun intended) in one workout.[/quote]
A lot of good advice here! Good post, gave me some things to think of. I think I might try to set the bar up a little further away from me, I do have some trouble sitting back well so that might be helpful.