The Deadlift Race Thread

[quote]Matsa wrote:
I have video of an easy 220kg from a few months back and today I did 200kgx6 (440lbs) and got it on video. I’ll upload those later.
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And here they are.

220kg (in march or april I think):

6x200kg from this past week:

Hope you’re able to see them.

Update for me, pulled 230kg at the meet last weekend. I’ll post a vid if I can find one

STB why did you decided to go down to 1 heavy DL day a month?

[quote]threewhitelights wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
Hit an easy 480 on the 2.5in axle today. Missed 530 at slightly below the knee. I was wearing power pants. I think with a normal bar and no briefs I’m right around 520ish. Speed work is definitely helping. [/quote]

Fuck me. Awesome axle pull dude.[/quote]

Haha. Thanks. I don’t know how much of a difference there really is between my straight bar DL and axle anymore. I just hit a slloooowwww 480 axle on Saturday with a belt. We are still using normal plates, so I think this ends up being a slightly lower bar position than normal but grip IS NOT an issue at all. Which I’m happy about.

I consider your 505 more impressive. I’m 270… not your 185 or whatever you said your tiny ass was. :slight_smile:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:

[quote]threewhitelights wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
Hit an easy 480 on the 2.5in axle today. Missed 530 at slightly below the knee. I was wearing power pants. I think with a normal bar and no briefs I’m right around 520ish. Speed work is definitely helping. [/quote]

Fuck me. Awesome axle pull dude.[/quote]

Haha. Thanks. I don’t know how much of a difference there really is between my straight bar DL and axle anymore. I just hit a slloooowwww 480 axle on Saturday with a belt. We are still using normal plates, so I think this ends up being a slightly lower bar position than normal but grip IS NOT an issue at all. Which I’m happy about.

I consider your 505 more impressive. I’m 270… not your 185 or whatever you said your tiny ass was. :)[/quote]

“only girls and cripples weigh 185” ~one of my training partners

You only consider it more impressive because you don’t know that I missed a 305 axle dead 2 weeks ago. I blame the fact that I haven’t used an over-under grip since I hurt my back, but boy was that embarrasing.

[quote]milktruck wrote:
STB why did you decided to go down to 1 heavy DL day a month?[/quote]

Because deadlifting sucks. It takes a month for me to not be sore anymore from my last heavy deadlift.

I was deadlifting heavy every 2 weeks or so and my progress stalled, I was stuck at 744 for like a year and a half. I started adding in suit work once a month and a week off once a month and it just kinda worked out that deadlifting was only once a month. When I did that, and got smarter with my exercise selection, the weight started going up again.

Mentally, this is awesome. Deadlift is my favorite competition lift. So, with this one workout a month, I am so fired up that there is no way I am not setting a new PR.

I’ve got a meet in a couple weeks so we will see if this format is still working for me!

New PR yesterday- 630 for 6… on rdl’s!

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
New PR yesterday- 630 for 6… on rdl’s![/quote]

Damn dude. That’s sick!

Question for you- I find that even if I set up with my upper back tight, the moment I start moving the bar my shoulders fall forward and my chest caves. I’ve been thinking this is actually a trap weakness and have started to address that by doing shrugs UP and BACK rather than just up.

Do you have any other advice for that? What happens is that my chest caves, that causes the bar to get out in front of me and then my hips shoot up. If I could keep my upper back tight, I feel like I would be able to pull BACK which is something I am having trouble doing…

[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
“only girls and cripples weigh 185” ~one of my training partners

You only consider it more impressive because you don’t know that I missed a 305 axle dead 2 weeks ago. I blame the fact that I haven’t used an over-under grip since I hurt my back, but boy was that embarrasing. [/quote]

haha. That’s no bueno man. So was it an actual grip issue or the different grip caused you to get into a different position? If you come catch a session with us we’ll make fun of you until you get that…

I dropped 240lb farmers in competition when I have done training with 300 if that makes you feel any better…

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:

[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
“only girls and cripples weigh 185” ~one of my training partners

You only consider it more impressive because you don’t know that I missed a 305 axle dead 2 weeks ago. I blame the fact that I haven’t used an over-under grip since I hurt my back, but boy was that embarrasing. [/quote]

haha. That’s no bueno man. So was it an actual grip issue or the different grip caused you to get into a different position? If you come catch a session with us we’ll make fun of you until you get that…

I dropped 240lb farmers in competition when I have done training with 300 if that makes you feel any better…[/quote]

eh, it was like a pretend grip issue, I was in a different position according to a training partner but at the same time, I should be able to stiff leg-round back deadlift 305 so it shouldn’t matter.

I’ve continentalled a 280 axle DOH so I can’t imagine my grip being that weak for 25lbs more, probably just need to get comfortable with it. No matter what though, like you said, no bueno. I probably just need to get the sand out.

I’m just glad this isn’t an “axle deadlift race” thread, or I’d be fucked.

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:

Question for you- I find that even if I set up with my upper back tight, the moment I start moving the bar my shoulders fall forward and my chest caves. I’ve been thinking this is actually a trap weakness and have started to address that by doing shrugs UP and BACK rather than just up.
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I know you’re not asking ME, but I’m gunna answer anyways. Is you’re lockout a problem with the shoulder forward posture? If not, then I wouldn’t worry about it, just focus on more rows.

For me, I deliberately set my shoulders forward to reduce the distance I have to pull before I get to lockout. A lot of guys do this actually. As long as you can keep your lower back tight and can shrug back once the weight is at lockout, then you’re probably fine.

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
New PR yesterday- 630 for 6… on rdl’s![/quote]

Damn dude. That’s sick!

Question for you- I find that even if I set up with my upper back tight, the moment I start moving the bar my shoulders fall forward and my chest caves. I’ve been thinking this is actually a trap weakness and have started to address that by doing shrugs UP and BACK rather than just up.

Do you have any other advice for that? What happens is that my chest caves, that causes the bar to get out in front of me and then my hips shoot up. If I could keep my upper back tight, I feel like I would be able to pull BACK which is something I am having trouble doing…[/quote]

I am assuming you are talking about your regular pulls, if thats the case, 99% of the time it has nothing to do with a weakness anywhere. Your chest is caving because I bet you are jerking the weight up off the floor and getting caught on the slack in the bar. Next time you get set up, grab the bar, and pull your hips to it. At the same time, if you are pulling yourself down hard enough, the bar should bend in your hands. Now that the slack is out, your arms are straight, your hips are down, and your hamstrings are tense; pull the shit out of it. Pull up and back, do not dip down and try to jerk it up.

The most important part of the deadlift, next to picking the weight all the way up, is getting the slack out of the bar. Work on that, perfect it, and then you will really find out where your weaknesses are.

Let me know if this helped any!

[quote]threewhitelights wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:

Question for you- I find that even if I set up with my upper back tight, the moment I start moving the bar my shoulders fall forward and my chest caves. I’ve been thinking this is actually a trap weakness and have started to address that by doing shrugs UP and BACK rather than just up.
[/quote]

I know you’re not asking ME, but I’m gunna answer anyways. Is you’re lockout a problem with the shoulder forward posture? If not, then I wouldn’t worry about it, just focus on more rows.

For me, I deliberately set my shoulders forward to reduce the distance I have to pull before I get to lockout. A lot of guys do this actually. As long as you can keep your lower back tight and can shrug back once the weight is at lockout, then you’re probably fine. [/quote]

Haha. It was really for anyone to answer. STB was the most advanced in here, so I figured posing it to him made the most sense.

Lockout isn’t problem with shoulders forward UNLESS I’m in a suit. No issue on reds/whites in comp though. But for this, I would say that being folded forward does make it a little harder to get my hips through fast. It may be a lower back tightness issue as well…

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
New PR yesterday- 630 for 6… on rdl’s![/quote]

Damn dude. That’s sick!

Question for you- I find that even if I set up with my upper back tight, the moment I start moving the bar my shoulders fall forward and my chest caves. I’ve been thinking this is actually a trap weakness and have started to address that by doing shrugs UP and BACK rather than just up.

Do you have any other advice for that? What happens is that my chest caves, that causes the bar to get out in front of me and then my hips shoot up. If I could keep my upper back tight, I feel like I would be able to pull BACK which is something I am having trouble doing…[/quote]

I am assuming you are talking about your regular pulls, if thats the case, 99% of the time it has nothing to do with a weakness anywhere. Your chest is caving because I bet you are jerking the weight up off the floor and getting caught on the slack in the bar. Next time you get set up, grab the bar, and pull your hips to it. At the same time, if you are pulling yourself down hard enough, the bar should bend in your hands. Now that the slack is out, your arms are straight, your hips are down, and your hamstrings are tense; pull the shit out of it. Pull up and back, do not dip down and try to jerk it up.

The most important part of the deadlift, next to picking the weight all the way up, is getting the slack out of the bar. Work on that, perfect it, and then you will really find out where your weaknesses are.

Let me know if this helped any![/quote]

I tend to be of “dip, grip, and rip” variety. I will try and focus more on getting that tense feeling in my hamstrings. I have had a lot of trouble pulling back, as I said, so I thought maybe it was an upper back issue causing me over. I’ll focus on this more and see how it goes.

Thanks guys!

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:

[quote]milktruck wrote:
STB why did you decided to go down to 1 heavy DL day a month?[/quote]

Because deadlifting sucks. It takes a month for me to not be sore anymore from my last heavy deadlift.

I was deadlifting heavy every 2 weeks or so and my progress stalled, I was stuck at 744 for like a year and a half. I started adding in suit work once a month and a week off once a month and it just kinda worked out that deadlifting was only once a month. When I did that, and got smarter with my exercise selection, the weight started going up again.

Mentally, this is awesome. Deadlift is my favorite competition lift. So, with this one workout a month, I am so fired up that there is no way I am not setting a new PR.

I’ve got a meet in a couple weeks so we will see if this format is still working for me![/quote]

Very interesting, thx for the insight. I was thinking about a once a month setup as well to focus on getting stronger in squats and rack pulls most of the time - from which I recover faster - then bringing it all home on the first of the month like its a national holiday.

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Got 410x14 today, up from 405x13 last month.

[quote]richvanv wrote:
Got 410x14 today, up from 405x13 last month.[/quote]

Sick dude. You definitely had a few more in you in terms of strength but conditioning just couldn’t keep up. haha

That gym is awesome

[quote]milktruck wrote:

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:

[quote]milktruck wrote:
STB why did you decided to go down to 1 heavy DL day a month?[/quote]

Because deadlifting sucks. It takes a month for me to not be sore anymore from my last heavy deadlift.

I was deadlifting heavy every 2 weeks or so and my progress stalled, I was stuck at 744 for like a year and a half. I started adding in suit work once a month and a week off once a month and it just kinda worked out that deadlifting was only once a month. When I did that, and got smarter with my exercise selection, the weight started going up again.

Mentally, this is awesome. Deadlift is my favorite competition lift. So, with this one workout a month, I am so fired up that there is no way I am not setting a new PR.

I’ve got a meet in a couple weeks so we will see if this format is still working for me![/quote]

Very interesting, thx for the insight. I was thinking about a once a month setup as well to focus on getting stronger in squats and rack pulls most of the time - from which I recover faster - then bringing it all home on the first of the month like its a national holiday.[/quote]

Haha. Yes! Thats what it feels like. Just s tip though, if you do start pulling once a month, you might have to add in some kind of variation for reps at some point. For example, the week before my heavy pulls, I try to hit a new 6 rep max on RDL’s on my speed day. It doesnt always work out but I know I am getting stronger when I can get 5-10 more pounds. It doesnt have to be RDL’s, it might not even have to be anything for you, but this works VERY well for me.

535lbs today!

10 more and I win second to Tokyopop! lol

Sideways vid can be found at the BOI thread.

In any case, updates from anyone? Seems like only the people that never qualified for this race are making progress.

I pulled 445x6 yesterday. Next week I’m going to shoot for 515 maybe 525. 5/3/1 estimated 1rm of 445x6 is 535. Getting there

you guys are doing a great thing here … just read through this entire thread and gotta say I’m a fan