[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
Question for you- I find that even if I set up with my upper back tight, the moment I start moving the bar my shoulders fall forward and my chest caves. I’ve been thinking this is actually a trap weakness and have started to address that by doing shrugs UP and BACK rather than just up.
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I know you’re not asking ME, but I’m gunna answer anyways. Is you’re lockout a problem with the shoulder forward posture? If not, then I wouldn’t worry about it, just focus on more rows.
For me, I deliberately set my shoulders forward to reduce the distance I have to pull before I get to lockout. A lot of guys do this actually. As long as you can keep your lower back tight and can shrug back once the weight is at lockout, then you’re probably fine. [/quote]
Haha. It was really for anyone to answer. STB was the most advanced in here, so I figured posing it to him made the most sense.
Lockout isn’t problem with shoulders forward UNLESS I’m in a suit. No issue on reds/whites in comp though. But for this, I would say that being folded forward does make it a little harder to get my hips through fast. It may be a lower back tightness issue as well…
[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
New PR yesterday- 630 for 6… on rdl’s![/quote]
Damn dude. That’s sick!
Question for you- I find that even if I set up with my upper back tight, the moment I start moving the bar my shoulders fall forward and my chest caves. I’ve been thinking this is actually a trap weakness and have started to address that by doing shrugs UP and BACK rather than just up.
Do you have any other advice for that? What happens is that my chest caves, that causes the bar to get out in front of me and then my hips shoot up. If I could keep my upper back tight, I feel like I would be able to pull BACK which is something I am having trouble doing…[/quote]
I am assuming you are talking about your regular pulls, if thats the case, 99% of the time it has nothing to do with a weakness anywhere. Your chest is caving because I bet you are jerking the weight up off the floor and getting caught on the slack in the bar. Next time you get set up, grab the bar, and pull your hips to it. At the same time, if you are pulling yourself down hard enough, the bar should bend in your hands. Now that the slack is out, your arms are straight, your hips are down, and your hamstrings are tense; pull the shit out of it. Pull up and back, do not dip down and try to jerk it up.
The most important part of the deadlift, next to picking the weight all the way up, is getting the slack out of the bar. Work on that, perfect it, and then you will really find out where your weaknesses are.
Let me know if this helped any![/quote]
I tend to be of “dip, grip, and rip” variety. I will try and focus more on getting that tense feeling in my hamstrings. I have had a lot of trouble pulling back, as I said, so I thought maybe it was an upper back issue causing me over. I’ll focus on this more and see how it goes.
Thanks guys!