So your telling me that girls with atypical sexualities are attracted to you, when you display atypical male characteristics?
hmm
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Not in all cases.
They might be with each other for variety of reasons having little to do with physical attractiveness. The average-looking or homely women you speak of might be nice, provide sex and affection, and make great mothers. They also might fit each other intellectually and for socioeconomic and social circles.
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Various reports deal with male age groups up to 30 or 35.
“The portion of Americans 18 to 29 reporting no sex in the past year more than doubled between 2008 and 2018, to 23 percent.”
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“Have they tried just being themselves?”
*in boomer tongue*
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And I doubt they have. People are weird now. Always chasing an engineered image or trying to fit made up definitions.
We’ve always had weird groups, but they’ve always been on the fringe until now. Weird is in. Dissociative image projection is going to make connecting hard. Or transactional.
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IDK man, I’m pretty sure the Anime/D&D/Fortnite/Pokemon Speedrunner crowd is literally being themselves.
Doesn’t seem to be working for them, if you haven’t seen the above information posted by @BrickHead
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So I asked before but I’d like to see if anyone else has input:
Only speaking for myself here.
I realized that love is a choice, not a feeling. I asked my wife to marry me 12 hours after our first kiss.
We’ve changed jobs, moved, traveled, had health issues, kids, family nonsense, any facet of life that exists.
But as a husband, in all those situations, I want her to really know that I choose to build, conquer, explore, and love her. I provide enthusiasm and the willingness to risk. To buy tampons and change diapers and be a bodyguard, cheerleader, and confidant.
Be romantic and ambitious, be a safe place. Be the equivalent of a swiss army knife. Never stop growing and beckoning her to go someplace new.
Like I said, love is a choice, not a feeling. And marrage shouldn’t be reduced to a contract.
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Well, I like your post a lot but you lose me at the end.
It quite literally is a contract. Before government involvement, it was still a contract, just a contract before God. Now it’s rather punitive. But I don’t think any of that is up for debate; as you said - it shouldn’t be a contract.
That is quite a list there. I’d like to flip the question.
What are a woman’s responsibilities/expectations in marriage?
You are welcome to answer specifically to your own marriage as you have already done.
We’re on the same page here. If divorce wasn’t a legal issue marrage wouldn’t be either. My current thinking is that the religious and legal aspects should be separated.
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Son of a bitch. Good question, but I have to work. I’ll respond later.
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It’s hard to get laid when you don’t leave your house…
I think the responsibilities are laid out pretty well in the traditional wedding vows:
“to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer, in sickness and in health, I promise to love and cherish you.”
In other words, to love and support your spouse through the easy and difficult times.
I would personally add:
To communicate wants, needs, goals, and issues that may require compromise.
Loyalty. Friendship. Intimacy.
The only traditional gender specific responsibility I still believe in (off the top of my head anyway) is that the man is the protector, period.
I think expectations are going to be individual. For example, while I think intimacy is a responsibility of both parties across all marriages, the expectations (what constitutes intimacy, how often sexual interactions occur, etc…) will depend on the couple.
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I mean, because they don’t leave their chair let alone their house… You have to put some effort into finding/keeping a relationship. Pussy doesn’t fall from the sky, lol.
Do you believe that the man should also provide?
Would you be supportive of a stay at home dad while mom works, the same as you would a stay at home mom while dad works?
both man and woman should provide in some capacity- household labour counts as providing
why not?
not all women are nurturing and sometimes it is better for the kids for dad to stay at home whether financialy or emotionally
I would personally not want a husband who is happy to stay at home. It signals lack of ambition. However, I would also not want a husband who encourages me to stay at home. It signals that he does not value my intellectual abilities. If I were lesbian, I wouldn’t want a stay at home wife either for the same reason I wouldn’t want a stay at home husband. Nothing to do with sex/gender
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I think men and women should provide something in a relationship.
This is interesting phrasing. “…should also provide”. I assume you mean in the traditional sense of providing income. That’s a fine arrangement. It worked for a long time. It still works. I would say by default it is the man’s responsibility.
However, we live in a world where women can also provide an income. In many cases, even more so than their spouse.
So, in the traditional sense, no I don’t think men must provide an income if that’s not the arrangement the couple agrees to, but they should provide something.
Absolutely, if that’s the arrangement the couple worked out.
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I think men that would rather stay home aren’t lacking ambition. I think these types of men (I’d include myself in this group) just don’t derive meaning or value from their employment.
My wife and I have talked about this many times. I have never once felt a sense of happiness, excitement, or satisfaction at finishing a task, completing a project, giving a presentation, etc… I get zero satisfaction out of my work and I will retire the moment it’s financially feasible.
I do it to pay bills, period.
Whereas her work fuels her self worth in many ways. Helping a client gives her a sense of satisfaction I’m honestly jealous of. She feels a sense of accomplishment after finishing her work.
I don’t think it’s a lack of ambition I just think it’s meaningless for many of us. I don’t care what my title is, where I fall in the company hierarchy, etc… I literally only care about the $$ that are deposited into my bank account.
Although, maybe I’m a bad example because it’s not like I haven’t worked hard to reach the level I’m at through years of effort and earning multiple degrees and letters after my name.
I just don’t care about any of that. At all.
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This is valid. You’ve put in the effort and found that it doesn’t fulfill you
I’m a fair bit younger than you. Most men my age haven’t had much work/life experience or really much real adversity. Wanting to stay at home broadly does translate into not wanting to work
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When we got married we went with the classic vows- to have and to hold, etc.
Those are the expectations.
Credit where credit is due- my wife has done a stellar job upholding her vows.
Ive done like, really good. Not perfect, but pretty close.
We’ve done this. Wife stayed home and I was the primary bread winner, then she went back when our son was old enough for daycare.
After a couple of promotions & whatnot, she far out-earned me and I stayed home. Also related but unknown at the time was that I was in the later stages of heart failure at that point.
Little wonder I didn’t have the get up & go I needed.
That having been treated sufficiently, I’ve restarted and we split the difference. I have a tremendous amount of flexability.
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Does your wife work or stay at home?
Do you have an expectation for her to do either?