[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Reef wrote:
I thought Bernard would take it after the knockdown, but Joe just got stronger as the fight went on.
Yeah, the knockdown surprised me, really the only thing that didn’t go as expected. Also, Enzo Calzaghe is right up there with Atlas as most entertaining cornermen.[/quote]
LAWL!!! “FUCKING HELL…FUCKING HELL…GET THE FUCK OUT THERE…Do you want him to fucking take this from you…WTF…there’s no water…GET ME THE FUCKING WATER!!!”
Calzaghe is truly a great boxer. Its a bloody shame he doesn’t get more recognition.
That fight was such shit I felt like my eyes were going to bleed. Who wants to watch two guys hugging each other 90% of the time and then throwing extremely shitty punches in general?
Really suprised noone talked about the Glenn Johnson Chad Dawson fight last week on shobox. Probably one of the best fights this year…
[quote]nothingclever wrote:
That fight was such shit I felt like my eyes were going to bleed. Who wants to watch two guys hugging each other 90% of the time and then throwing extremely shitty punches in general?[/quote]
I have many issues.
Joe Cortez sucks. He sucks multiple dicks every day of the week. Let these fucking guys fight, every time they lean too close that motherfucker was running in. Neither of them are really infighters, but it certainly fucked Hatton up, and he made this fight miserable.
Hopkins set the pace for that fight. He countered well initially, but showed his age. Calzaghe won the last rounds because Hopkins gassed out and showed every bit of his 43 years. In his prime, I’m convinced that he would have murdered Calzaghe.
I’m not impressed with Calzaghe. That bitch slap manner of fighting sucks ass, it fools the judges into thinking that you’re winning when in reality he might have hurt Hopkins maybe once. Complete bullshit.
Hopkins stopped landing his right, and wasn’t throwing hooks. He lost that fight more than Joe won it.
I like Joe Calzaghe. Seems like a good, humble guy. But I will never root for a guy who slaps in a boxing match. Disgusting.
This motherfucker wants to prove he’s the best, let’s throw him in with Kelly and see how far he gets. Fifth round KO.
I’m disgusted.
[quote]Shire wrote:
Calzaghe is truly a great boxer. Its a bloody shame he doesn’t get more recognition.[/quote]
No he isn’t. He couldn’t knock out a dead horse. Hand speed is nothing without power.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
nothingclever wrote:
That fight was such shit I felt like my eyes were going to bleed. Who wants to watch two guys hugging each other 90% of the time and then throwing extremely shitty punches in general?
I have many issues.
Joe Cortez sucks. He sucks multiple dicks every day of the week. Let these fucking guys fight, every time they lean too close that motherfucker was running in. Neither of them are really infighters, but it certainly fucked Hatton up, and he made this fight miserable.
Hopkins set the pace for that fight. He countered well initially, but showed his age. Calzaghe won the last rounds because Hopkins gassed out and showed every bit of his 43 years. In his prime, I’m convinced that he would have murdered Calzaghe.
I’m not impressed with Calzaghe. That bitch slap manner of fighting sucks ass, it fools the judges into thinking that you’re winning when in reality he might have hurt Hopkins maybe once. Complete bullshit.
Hopkins stopped landing his right, and wasn’t throwing hooks. He lost that fight more than Joe won it.
I like Joe Calzaghe. Seems like a good, humble guy. But I will never root for a guy who slaps in a boxing match. Disgusting.
This motherfucker wants to prove he’s the best, let’s throw him in with Kelly and see how far he gets. Fifth round KO.
I’m disgusted.[/quote]
Those are all excellent points. I was very frustrated watching Hopkins, a shell of his former self in there. Five years ago, this fight is a mismatch, with B-Hop winning inside 6.
Credit to Calzaghe where due, but I also have to feel a litle resentment for a guy who puts his unbeaten record above all else and will only fight washed up fighters or on his home turf or at all.
I would love to see Calzaghe fight Pavlik, or Dawson, or even Taylor. Hell, I’d settle for Antonio Tarver. If he mows through a couple of these guys. well, then, much respect.
Yea, well now I’m hearing about him and RJJ.
FUCK OFF! FIGHTING ANOTHER AARP MEMBER JOE???
Bullllllsshhhittt… Go fight Kelly Pavlik or Jermaine Tayler. Prove that you can’t just knock out three drunk limeys a Belgian and a ghost.
He has 32 knockouts. He completely destroyed Jeff Lacy. It’s just impossible to knock out Hopkins.
Even though he didn’t hurt Hopkins, he still landed more shots than anyone ever has against Hopkins, but of course, Hopkins is old.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Yea, well now I’m hearing about him and RJJ.
FUCK OFF! FIGHTING ANOTHER AARP MEMBER JOE???
Bullllllsshhhittt… Go fight Kelly Pavlik or Jermaine Tayler. Prove that you can’t just knock out three drunk limeys a Belgian and a ghost.[/quote]
Roy Jones is 39. Calzaghe is 36. Not that much of a mis-match.
[quote]Reef wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Yea, well now I’m hearing about him and RJJ.
FUCK OFF! FIGHTING ANOTHER AARP MEMBER JOE???
Bullllllsshhhittt… Go fight Kelly Pavlik or Jermaine Tayler. Prove that you can’t just knock out three drunk limeys a Belgian and a ghost.
Roy Jones is 39. Calzaghe is 36. Not that much of a mis-match.[/quote]
Sure it is. Age is a number. Guys can be fought out by 40.
Jones, like Hopkins, is a shell of the brutal fighter he used to be. Calzaghe is on his way up, and Jones is on his way out.
I love RJJ, but counterpunchers don’t age well.
RJJ??! Christ. This is what pisses me off… where the fuck was Calzaghe 5-8 years ago when RJJ wanted to fight him then? Pissing in his pants, that’s where. had to wait for B-Hop and RJJ to get old.
Disgraceful. I hope that fight doesn’t happen. There’s no point now.
“Fighting Irish”
You can say all you want about Joe Calzaghe- he was far from great last night, he knows that himself,but the fact is, he is 45-0.
I’m sure once he beats another big name next he’ll make people like you eat your words.
I have to agree though…for someone considered the best 168 pounder…he truly throws punches like a girl…COME ON…HE SLAPS
[quote]rowe wrote:
“Fighting Irish”
You can say all you want about Joe Calzaghe- he was far from great last night, he knows that himself,but the fact is, he is 45-0.
I’m sure once he beats another big name next he’ll make people like you eat your words.[/quote]
Exactly. Mikkel Kessler is better than B-Hop right now, better than Pavlik, and better than Jermain. Joe beat him. Joe would embarrass any of the cast of fools out there left. Failure to recognize that is just petty hating. You can hate his slap attack all you want, but it’s funny that you gloss over B-Hop’s “LUNGE AND CLINCH” for 12 rounds that made that fight a bore.
Let Joe make his money and fight RJJ. Hes earned it, he’s the best out there.
[quote]Xeneize wrote:
Those are all excellent points. I was very frustrated watching Hopkins, a shell of his former self in there. Five years ago, this fight is a mismatch, with B-Hop winning inside 6.
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LOL, you guys are hilarious and delusional.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
rowe wrote:
“Fighting Irish”
You can say all you want about Joe Calzaghe- he was far from great last night, he knows that himself,but the fact is, he is 45-0.
I’m sure once he beats another big name next he’ll make people like you eat your words.
Exactly. Mikkel Kessler is better than B-Hop right now, better than Pavlik, and better than Jermain. Joe beat him. Joe would embarrass any of the cast of fools out there left. Failure to recognize that is just petty hating. You can hate his slap attack all you want, but it’s funny that you gloss over B-Hop’s “LUNGE AND CLINCH” for 12 rounds that made that fight a bore.
Let Joe make his money and fight RJJ. Hes earned it, he’s the best out there.[/quote]
Kessler is better than BHop, and I did watch that entire fight. Calzaghe deserved that one- he beat up on Kessler.
And don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying BHop won that fight, because he didn’t. Hopkins fought a crappy fight and, although I honestly love dirty fighters, I wasn’t impressed with the fake low blow bullshit that he pulled.
But Joe looked bad last night. I’m not trying to hate on the fucker- like I said, I think he’s a humble guy, and he’s a southpaw (I always love fellow southpaws). As a person, he impresses me in the same way that Hatton does.
But I still believe his tactics fool judges into thinking he’s winning when he’s really just throwing a bunch of slaps that aren’t doing anything. That’s not what boxing should be about.
And honestly, I think Pavlik would knock him out. If Hopkins put him down in that first round, then you’re telling me he’s going to be able to stand up to Kelly’s 1-2 for 12 rounds? I think not.
Taylor he might beat, but it’d be a far better fight than the atrocity we saw last night (and it was like that because of both of them, not just Joe). A fight with RJJ would just be waste of time.
Not saying I wouldn’t watch it, but you get my drift.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
rowe wrote:
“Fighting Irish”
You can say all you want about Joe Calzaghe- he was far from great last night, he knows that himself,but the fact is, he is 45-0.
I’m sure once he beats another big name next he’ll make people like you eat your words.
Exactly. Mikkel Kessler is better than B-Hop right now, better than Pavlik, and better than Jermain. Joe beat him. Joe would embarrass any of the cast of fools out there left. Failure to recognize that is just petty hating. You can hate his slap attack all you want, but it’s funny that you gloss over B-Hop’s “LUNGE AND CLINCH” for 12 rounds that made that fight a bore.
Let Joe make his money and fight RJJ. Hes earned it, he’s the best out there.[/quote]
No one is saying that Calzaghe is a bum. I never once mentioned “slapping” punches. As for B-Hop’s “Lunge and clinch,” you are right about what he did, but that’s all that the 43-year-old geezer has the energy to do these days, which is why he should friggin retire. Actually, he should have retired after beating Tarver.
But he wanted to fight Joe, and he got what he deserved. I scored it 115-111 for Calzaghe.
If Calzaghe fights a young stud like Pavlik or Dawson and beats them up, then no one can argue his greatness, but beating up on old legends… what does that prove? After all, Hector Camacho beat up Sugar Ray Leonard… doesn’t make him great.
I gotta respect Ricky Hatton… the man came over here to test himself against the best and he didn’t fight some aging legend… he went after the best. Yes, he got waxed but at least the man had the courage to get into the ring with a dominant champion in his prime.
[quote]Xeneize wrote:
If Calzaghe fights a young stud like Pavlik or Dawson and beats them up, then no one can argue his greatness, but beating up on old legends… what does that prove? After all, Hector Camacho beat up Sugar Ray Leonard… doesn’t make him great.[/quote]
Find me a single great boxer who didn’t help get his name out by beating up on an old timer. This was a fucking fight of the century compared to Marciano-Joe Louis or Holmes-Ali or most of Tyson’s fights in the late 80’s. Joe has fought Jeff Lacy, Bika, and Kessler in the past few fights. Manfredo doesn’t count, lol. That’s a great resume, and saying he is isn’t out there fighting the best is turning a blind eye to his recent accomplishments. B Hop just beat the undisputed light heavyweight champion of the world, so surely he wasn’t as washed up as you are making him out to be.
Fight Pavlik? Pavlik is fighting John-fucking Duddy. Talk about not fighting the best…