I wouldn’t be surprised if Gomez got some brain damage. He took A LOT of shots. I guess that’s what happens when a reality show boxer fights a real one. Margarito vs. Cotto next!
Boxing > MMA
more skills, more toughness, more conditioning
its not that MMA isnt demanding. the competitors just arent in the shape of top boxers, and most of them didnt have 80 fights by the age of 16. their skills are lacking although i am impressed with anderson silva’s footwork and striking
ankle locks are a cowardly way to win, why even be a fighter if youre gonna pull guard. when i was younger i was way into UFC before anybody knew what it was. Now I know how much better boxing is, just waiting for the rest of the n00bs to catch up
[quote]Boxer666 wrote:
Boxing > MMA
more skills, more toughness, more conditioning
its not that MMA isnt demanding. the competitors just arent in the shape of top boxers, and most of them didnt have 80 fights by the age of 16. their skills are lacking although i am impressed with anderson silva’s footwork and striking
ankle locks are a cowardly way to win, why even be a fighter if youre gonna pull guard. when i was younger i was way into UFC before anybody knew what it was. Now I know how much better boxing is, just waiting for the rest of the n00bs to catch up[/quote]
You’re a stupid piece of garbage. Take this diarrhea to Sherdog or something with people more of your intelligence. The adults are talking about boxing here.
[quote]Reef wrote:
I wouldn’t be surprised if Gomez got some brain damage. He took A LOT of shots. I guess that’s what happens when a reality show boxer fights a real one. Margarito vs. Cotto next![/quote]
No kidding. Cotto is a damn stud. I felt bad for Gomez because you could see the guy was in top shape and fighting the best fight he could, but Cotto was just too much in every regard. Margarito vs Cotto should be pretty solid.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
HEY HEY HEY!!! HATTON MAYWEATHER II??? GO RICKY!!
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I admire Ricky’s spirit and the desire to make some serious bank, but I saw nothiing the first time around that would indicate he has a shot this time, unless Floyd severely flubs his gameplan or gets out of shape (which I highly doubt).
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
HEY HEY HEY!!! HATTON MAYWEATHER II??? GO RICKY!!
I admire Ricky’s spirit and the desire to make some serious bank, but I saw nothiing the first time around that would indicate he has a shot this time, unless Floyd severely flubs his gameplan or gets out of shape (which I highly doubt). [/quote]
I don’t know. I don’t want to sound like an apologist for Hatton, but he did not fight his fight. I’ve watched every one of his fights, and he was throwing far fewer punches than he ever did. He also was not working the body like he normally has.
He is an entirely different fighter at 147 than he is at 140. If he could somehow replicate workrate he has at 140, I think he could do it.
Now, besides that, Cotto is a mauler. I hope to see him fight Mayweather- Cotto times his punches just as well as Mayweather does, and hits with a lot of power. It would be a Louis-Ali type fight. I hope it happens.
Calazaghe/B-Hop this weekend. I’ll take Joe via 2000 slap decision.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Wow. Anyone see Cotto dismantle Gomez?
Brave guy, but completely outclassed.[/quote]
I felt bad for Gomez. That fight should’ve been stopped a round before it was actually halted. He took way too many shots to the head. He might never be the same fighter after that.
Cotto made that look like a glorified sparring session. Hopefully we’ll get to see him fight Floyd in the near-future.
I’m going out on a limb here, and calling BHop with a KO in 10.
That motherfucker has been through wars in the ring, and I don’t see Calzaghe coming close to knocking him out.
BHop will have too much power.
Calzaghe by DQ
[quote]SKman wrote:
Calzaghe by DQ[/quote]
Very possible, if Bernard gets outclassed by Joe’s speed he could try to make it a rough and tumble affair, and rough and tumble for B-Hop who is already kind of a “dirty” guy is in the territory for a DQ.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I’m going out on a limb here, and calling BHop with a KO in 10.
That motherfucker has been through wars in the ring, and I don’t see Calzaghe coming close to knocking him out.
BHop will have too much power.[/quote]
I don’t think or expect Joe to knock him out, but Kessler brought more power than B-Hop could ever dream of and Joe shut him down. I think it will be a frustrating fight for B-Hop, and after it everyone will finally have to say “B-Hop got old.”
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
I’m going out on a limb here, and calling BHop with a KO in 10.
That motherfucker has been through wars in the ring, and I don’t see Calzaghe coming close to knocking him out.
BHop will have too much power.
I don’t think or expect Joe to knock him out, but Kessler brought more power than B-Hop could ever dream of and Joe shut him down. I think it will be a frustrating fight for B-Hop, and after it everyone will finally have to say “B-Hop got old.”
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I agree that it’s going to be difficult. But I think that B-Hop is a far better fighter than Kessler, and has certainly fought far tougher opponents than either Kessler or Calzaghe.
I could see Hopkins getting frustrated- it’s one of the scenarios that I could certainly understand. But like you said, B-Hop is a dirty motherfucker who will turn it into a brawl. Combine that with his natural grittiness and I think that he will win.
I’m calling a KO by B-Hop, but I could see a decision going to Calzaghe. More or less, it can’t go to the cards if you’re Bernard Hopkins.
I doubt B-Hop will KO him. The last time he won by KO was against De La Hoya I believe. And B-Hop won’t get KO’d either. He has a great chin. I hope B-Hop wins by decision but I think Calzaghe will take it.
China Hands Joe is the messiah.
I thought Bernard would take it after the knockdown, but Joe just got stronger as the fight went on.
Decision in…Joe by split decision…good decision in my opinion. Calzaghe was WAY more busy…was the more aggressive fighter…more punches landed and more punches thrown. I felt as though Hopkins was fighting a little more dirty than usual(grabbing the arm, then in the last rounds it was clear before the breaks was cuppin him a bit on purpose). Also felt as though he was winded and really exaggerated the low blows…I mean it was obvious that they were A) ACCIDENTAL…B) NOT POWERFUL…just buying time obviously…I’m sure SOMEONE will try to argue against this…but you are wrong according to the majority at HBO and the judges and me…and everyone who I watched it with…
[quote]Reef wrote:
I thought Bernard would take it after the knockdown, but Joe just got stronger as the fight went on.
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Yeah, the knockdown surprised me, really the only thing that didn’t go as expected. Also, Enzo Calzaghe is right up there with Atlas as most entertaining cornermen.
[quote]facko wrote:
Decision in…Joe by split decision…good decision in my opinion. Calzaghe was WAY more busy…was the more aggressive fighter…more punches landed and more punches thrown. I felt as though Hopkins was fighting a little more dirty than usual(grabbing the arm, then in the last rounds it was clear before the breaks was cuppin him a bit on purpose). Also felt as though he was winded and really exaggerated the low blows…I mean it was obvious that they were A) ACCIDENTAL…B) NOT POWERFUL…just buying time obviously…I’m sure SOMEONE will try to argue against this…but you are wrong according to the majority at HBO and the judges and me…and everyone who I watched it with…[/quote]
I agree, but with B-Hop that’s pretty much to be expected. He landed multiple low blows on Joe, but in his crafty way hid them all from the ref, and milked the shit out of that light tap.
Apparently Bernard Hopkins’ junk starts right below his bellybutton. That’s got to be kind of weird.
I thought Joe clearly won that fight. I think the one of the judges read a little too much into the knockdown(he took a shot, but B-Hop shoved him away a bit too, I don’t think the punch alone knocked him down)and the low bogus blows. After round 3 it was all Joe, with a few flurries here and there by Hopkins, but not enough to win.