Damn, I figured this thread had faded away into nothingness. Good job both of you.
Just a little something interesting, I’ve just found out yesterday that everyone at my old college that were the biggest / strongest / had the best physiques all surprise read T-Nation. Pretty cool.
[quote]SSC wrote:
Damn, I figured this thread had faded away into nothingness. Good job both of you.
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Hey guy, saw your posts in T-Alpha— GREAT JOB YOURSELF!!!
Question for the bunker, almost all of the soreness I get from working my quads is in my VMO, and while it’s done wonders to bring out my teardrop I feel like the rest of my quad is starting to lag. Should I gasp stop going deep for a little bit, and maybe widen up my stance about to help my mid/outer quad catch back up? I’ve been going very olympic style with squatting for a long time now(narrow+deep).
Sorry no pictures I am a poor cameraless soul =/
[quote]red04 wrote:
Question for the bunker, almost all of the soreness I get from working my quads is in my VMO, and while it’s done wonders to bring out my teardrop I feel like the rest of my quad is starting to lag. Should I gasp stop going deep for a little bit, and maybe widen up my stance about to help my mid/outer quad catch back up? I’ve been going very olympic style with squatting for a long time now(narrow+deep).
Sorry no pictures I am a poor cameraless soul =/[/quote]
I think if you go with a shoulder width stance and still go for depth you’ll be fine.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Haven’t seen much action in the BBB, so I’ll throw out an update to a previous conversation.
hungry4more wrote:
However, if his arms have been neglected, they will grow proportionately faster than his other body parts.
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All I’m trying to say is that if his arms have been neglected, he may be able to gain an inch while only putting on a total of 5 lbs, or even staying at the same time. Maybe, maybe not. He’ll find out by the end of the summer anyhow.
Since early-mid April (let’s call it 6 weeks) when I started to add some calories and hit my arms directly and more frequently, I’ve added 3/4" to my upper arms. I’m 9 pounds up in weight-- I don’t know the ratio of muscle/fat/water, but pants are fitting the same and the shirts are a little tighter up top 
Whaddya know-- eating more and targeting lifting works!
Log:
http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=2149580
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Progress:
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Eat big.
Lift heavy.
Sleep well.
Repeat.
On to 17…
Good to see you learned.
Continue and hit us back with 18" arms.
That sounded kinda condescending. 
It wasn’t a matter of ‘learned’. It’s a matter of ‘do’.
I don’t post this and keep a log on this site because I think I’m huge or to show off. I’m under no such illusion. However, I do walk the walk by laying my progress in the open for anyone that’s interested-- more than I can say for a lot of posters here. I’m here to ask questions and learn from those more educated and experienced in these things.
I post this in the hopes that it motivates or inspires others. If an old schmuck like me, who in addition to 30+ years of injury and body abuse, wife, young kids, 12 hour work days, and a mortgage can make gains using a tried and true formula, there’s abso-fucking-lutely no reason why anyone, especially the ‘kids’ on this site with double the “T” can’t.
I named my log “Shut Up 'n Lift” for a reason. It’s the same thing I deal with at work and in life-- Penny wise, pound foolish. A lot of the “Bodybuilding” questions ask “what supplement…”, or ask for details that are equivalent to “The ship is sinking, what color should I paint the dining room?” in scope. “How many calories” down to .1 calories… It’s insane.
I like the 40k foot view-- start eating to gain, wait… not gaining, eat some more, wait… oh, look, gaining! continue…
Eat more, Lift more. It works. Even old fucks like me get bigger and stronger.
So question for anybody who hasn’t locked themself in the T-Cell and thrown away the key 
Starting August 10th to Sept 11th i will have literally nothing to. My summer job will be done, and I can’t move into the new apartment that is 300 miles away until the 11th.
I’ve got a great gym that i have access to until then, so im thinking about spending a crazy amount of my time in there. I’m gonna see just how much volume my body can take.
I’m going to be eating for size, and after reading the thread in the T-Cell about things people believe but cant prove, im even gonna add a visit there in the morning for cardio to increase appetite and try to minimize lard gain.
So question out there, has anybody ever had a 30 day period like this where they knew they could just focus on lifting and eating and what kind of plan of attack did you use, or would you use if you had the chance.
–JB
[quote]red04 wrote:
Question for the bunker, almost all of the soreness I get from working my quads is in my VMO, and while it’s done wonders to bring out my teardrop I feel like the rest of my quad is starting to lag. Should I gasp stop going deep for a little bit, and maybe widen up my stance about to help my mid/outer quad catch back up? I’ve been going very olympic style with squatting for a long time now(narrow+deep).
Sorry no pictures I am a poor cameraless soul =/[/quote]
i think depth is really overrated. you dont need to go “olympic” depth just to make your legs grow dude. im having problems targeting my outer quads too and i find doing leg ext’s with toes pointed outward works well.
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
So question for anybody who hasn’t locked themself in the T-Cell and thrown away the key
Starting August 10th to Sept 11th i will have literally nothing to. My summer job will be done, and I can’t move into the new apartment that is 300 miles away until the 11th.
I’ve got a great gym that i have access to until then, so im thinking about spending a crazy amount of my time in there. I’m gonna see just how much volume my body can take.
I’m going to be eating for size, and after reading the thread in the T-Cell about things people believe but cant prove, im even gonna add a visit there in the morning for cardio to increase appetite and try to minimize lard gain.
So question out there, has anybody ever had a 30 day period like this where they knew they could just focus on lifting and eating and what kind of plan of attack did you use, or would you use if you had the chance.
–JB[/quote]
my lifestyle is focused around lifting and eating 90% of the time with the 10% being life getting in the way. lol
I’d be wary of the cardio when bulking. Everybody is different, but If I was in your shoes and doing cardio I would just shrink.
Bodybuilding is a lifestyle. The more of your life you dedicate to it, the better the gains. One month will leave you with progress at the end of the month, but unless you are using some sort of aas i don’t think you will see huuuge improvements in just a month.
I’ve read and posted several times, bodybuilding isn’t a sprint but an endurance race.
I’ve been training for about 6 years, 3 of which have been with serious dedication where i pack my meals with me and follow my diet/training routine to the T. I feel I have a physique to be proud of, but I know I’m a long way off from where I want to be.
Hope this has helped somewhat and good luck man.
Gerdy
lol i just remembered that i’ve seen your posts before lol. I don’t think what I just wrote will help you one bit, I know you probably already know that stuff. lol
As to answer a question that i left out. I wouldn’t change anything requarding training and nutrition. Having the extra time off will just allow you to follow everything you plan perfectly, also maybe add in a nap during the day. Sleep = growth remember so that nap might prove itself worthy.
maybe that helped a little better than the last post. lol
Gerdy
Thanks man, I’m no competitive bodybuilder like yourself, but i have managed to learn a few things over the years.
Now that i think of it, added sleep might be the biggest change i make, maybe try to get an hour or so after my post workout meal.
I’m also just trying to get this section going again since the bodybuilding forum is almost useless at this point.
You could try doing 2-a-days. Thibs usually recommends that you do NOT increase your volume when doing them, but simply spread the workout over 2 sessions so you are fresh all over again for the 2nd half of the workout.
Head on over to his thread in the Locker Room and ask him for some advice.
heres a question for anybody who like to answer it.
Do you use any of the machines in your gym in an unconventional way ?
I read about somebody on the forums the other day using a hamstring curl machines for a dip machine.
Guess they just sat in front of it on the floor and pushed down on the leg attachment like they would a seated dip machine.
Thats something i will definitely try since i dont have one of those machines in my gym, and my makeshift dipping belt has been tearing the living hell out of my hips when i put more then a 100 lbs on it.
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completely love this idea Lonnie, in fact, i think Thib’s wrote an article on this a while back, so im gonna go find that before i clutter up that thread of his more then it already is.
thanks man.
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
Thanks man, I’m no competitive bodybuilder like yourself, but i have managed to learn a few things over the years.
Now that i think of it, added sleep might be the biggest change i make, maybe try to get an hour or so after my post workout meal.
I’m also just trying to get this section going again since the bodybuilding forum is almost useless at this point.[/quote]
Oh yeah, I forgot it in my last post but I would definitely add a nap in. I’ve been doing it routinely this summer, along with lowering my reps to the 4-8 range, and seemed to have experienced a new growth period with some extra strength added in.
If you have the time, a 40-60 minute nap is a great idea for recovery.
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
heres a question for anybody who like to answer it.
Do you use any of the machines in your gym in an unconventional way ?
I read about somebody on the forums the other day using a hamstring curl machines for a dip machine.
Guess they just sat in front of it on the floor and pushed down on the leg attachment like they would a seated dip machine.
Thats something i will definitely try since i dont have one of those machines in my gym, and my makeshift dipping belt has been tearing the living hell out of my hips when i put more then a 100 lbs on it.[/quote]
While I’ve never done it,I’ve seen a BBer put a lat pulldown bar in between the handles of a bench press machine and use it as a close grip bench. I’d actually forgotten about that until now… Might have to try it next workout.
i read about that somewhere, but i also had completely forgot about that until now.
Also could maybe do that with an underhand grip and not worry about smashing my teeth in like im afraid i will when i do the Close grip bench with a reverse grip with free weights.
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
heres a question for anybody who like to answer it.
Do you use any of the machines in your gym in an unconventional way ?
I read about somebody on the forums the other day using a hamstring curl machines for a dip machine.
Guess they just sat in front of it on the floor and pushed down on the leg attachment like they would a seated dip machine.
Thats something i will definitely try since i dont have one of those machines in my gym, and my makeshift dipping belt has been tearing the living hell out of my hips when i put more then a 100 lbs on it.[/quote]
Huh, that’s an interesting way to go about it.
Before I answer - Nice on reviving the thread! That being said, the most unconventional way I used a machine was on a hyper-esque machine. Not sure what it’s called, but instead of using them for hammies, I put a bench a few feet away from it, and used the handle to do really slow, controlled negative dips with my feet on the bench. Keep in mind this is before I could do dips too well… haha.
Ok, heres something.
Big guys, im talking guys who have got to 230ish + while being fairly lean, not sporting a six pack, but i think ya know what i mean.
If any of your are out there, do you think there is any place in your training for bodyweight exercises ?
I think we can agree that the whole Chins good, Lat pulldown bad arguement is shit, they both have their place.
But about things like pushups,inverted rows,bw dips and chins… use them with attached weight, use then to burn out after already fatigued, or have you left them in the past completely.
I for one did hand stand pushups for the first time since i gained about 35-40 pounds today, and they certainly kicked my ass, and i see that they could have a place in my training in the future, even it takes a set or two to get the balance right again.