[quote]bmitch wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
bmitch wrote:
Brendan Ryan wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
To be fair, Brewer looks a hell of a lot better in shape than he does in that picture…which is a guest posing appearance he probably should have skipped.
The guy has some UNREAL legs.
Before the bulking adventure.
Look at them quads!
Woah… his quads look too big for his size
Yeah. Step aside, Tom Platz.
Tom platz legs don’t look too big for his size because his waist is thicker and his calves are bigger then Brewers[/quote]
Good point. In any case, Brewer is still young. He has lots of years to catch up.
[quote]Corkonian wrote:
DC training anyone got an views on it ?
mate of mine is looking for something new and this seems a bit “different”[/quote]
The place for DC is intensemuscle.com The pictures stories and discussions are out there to prove it’s effectiveness. We also have a thread here but it’s mainly just me rambling on for pages
I would suggest your friend research it and either commit to it 100% or not at all, it’s certainly not a change of pace flavor of the month type training program.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Question for the bunker.
how detrimental do you guys feel it is to get your workout done in an hour or less. I know mine takes maybe 45 minutes to an 1:15. I think the hour or less rule is alittle over dramatized and the main thing is if you’re seeing results keep doing what you’re doing.[/quote]
Yes, I agree. Some programs like WS4SB can’t be done under an hour, yet people are having success with it. The hour rule should only serve as a guide. What matters most is what works for you.
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Question for the bunker.
how detrimental do you guys feel it is to get your workout done in an hour or less. I know mine takes maybe 45 minutes to an 1:15. I think the hour or less rule is alittle over dramatized and the main thing is if you’re seeing results keep doing what you’re doing.
Yes, I agree. Some programs like WS4SB can’t be done under an hour, yet people are having success with it. The hour rule should only serve as a guide. What matters most is what works for you.[/quote]
Yeah, uneadlift probably has this one right. I’d tell people to worry not about concentrating the workout on being short, but it just not being too long. The one-hour thing is probably more of a guideline so people don’t overtrain anyway.
[quote]Scott M wrote:
Corkonian wrote:
DC training anyone got an views on it ?
mate of mine is looking for something new and this seems a bit “different”
The place for DC is intensemuscle.com The pictures stories and discussions are out there to prove it’s effectiveness. We also have a thread here but it’s mainly just me rambling on for pages
I would suggest your friend research it and either commit to it 100% or not at all, it’s certainly not a change of pace flavor of the month type training program. [/quote]
That said, it’s an excellent program.
The guy that asked about the hour “rule” answered his own question.
[quote]SSC wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Question for the bunker.
how detrimental do you guys feel it is to get your workout done in an hour or less. I know mine takes maybe 45 minutes to an 1:15. I think the hour or less rule is alittle over dramatized and the main thing is if you’re seeing results keep doing what you’re doing.
Yes, I agree. Some programs like WS4SB can’t be done under an hour, yet people are having success with it. The hour rule should only serve as a guide. What matters most is what works for you.
Yeah, uneadlift probably has this one right. I’d tell people to worry not about concentrating the workout on being short, but it just not being too long. The one-hour thing is probably more of a guideline so people don’t overtrain anyway.[/quote]
I know the “hour rule” theory is in place because the body is completely catabolic by that mark. If you train much past that then you will be using skeletal muscle as fuel to keep your workouts going. I sometimes hit that 15 minutes past mark, but I wouldn’t go past that. I keep it at an hour max and take bcaa in the middle of the workout.
I think that you will benefit more with stopping your workout where it is at, at the hour mark, and go home and re-fuel your body, instead of stay there for 15+mins and burn more muscle.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Question for the bunker.
how detrimental do you guys feel it is to get your workout done in an hour or less. I know mine takes maybe 45 minutes to an 1:15. I think the hour or less rule is alittle over dramatized and the main thing is if you’re seeing results keep doing what you’re doing.[/quote]
I find that if I go over an hour I lose focus. Also, my performance decreases tremendously. I like to keep it to an hour or 45 minutes.
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
I know the “hour rule” theory is in place because the body is completely catabolic by that mark. If you train much past that then you will be using skeletal muscle as fuel to keep your workouts going. I sometimes hit that 15 minutes past mark, but I wouldn’t go past that. I keep it at an hour max and take bcaa in the middle of the workout.
I think that you will benefit more with stopping your workout where it is at, at the hour mark, and go home and re-fuel your body, instead of stay there for 15+mins and burn more muscle.
Gerdy[/quote]
Good points. Eating at the hour mark should help. However, some coaches here still don’t recommend going past an hour despite peri-workout nutrition. They argue that it’s not just about the energy source that causes catabolism, but the stress hormones involved. Regardless of peri-workout nutrition, these stress hormones would still be made by the body, causing more catabolism.
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
I know the “hour rule” theory is in place because the body is completely catabolic by that mark. If you train much past that then you will be using skeletal muscle as fuel to keep your workouts going. I sometimes hit that 15 minutes past mark, but I wouldn’t go past that. I keep it at an hour max and take bcaa in the middle of the workout.
I think that you will benefit more with stopping your workout where it is at, at the hour mark, and go home and re-fuel your body, instead of stay there for 15+mins and burn more muscle.
Gerdy
Good points. Eating at the hour mark should help. However, some coaches here still don’t recommend going past an hour despite peri-workout nutrition. They argue that it’s not just about the energy source that causes catabolism, but the stress hormones involved. Regardless of peri-workout nutrition, these stress hormones would still be made by the body, causing more catabolism.
But like I said, to each his own…[/quote]
I agree with that as well…I guess I was kind of saying that instead of spending the extra 10-20 mins finishing a training session you’d be better off going home and eating. You will be burning muscle in those 10-20 mins. Although inducing hypertrophy as wel; but I think that the amount of muscle you would burn in those 20 minutes would be greater than the amount you could build through the excess hypertrophy.
I personally have a fast metabolism and staying too long in the gym halts gains and makes me smalla
So the new york pro is coming up on the 10th I believe. Who do you guys think will win? Who is competing? And does anybody know if bb.com will have their live broadcast? Well I guess I could check, but for the sake of taking about bodybuilding…
[quote]Scott M wrote:
Kai Greene although I haven’t seen him on any competitors lists. It’s not a very star packed show compared to what the NOC used to be.
I’m MUCH more interested in the under 210(or whatever the cutoff is) class.
David Henry
Lou Joseph-pro debut
and a few other guys should make that very interesting. [/quote]
LOL i just realized it was this thread, this page, that you referenced the DC site you pm’d me. lol I don’t know why I didn’t look here lmao. I feel like an idiot for spending 15 mins searching for it. lol oh well… Thanks again for the pm by the way.
I was unaware that they are doing an under 210 class. I’m real interested to see this as well. I hope that some of the smaller guys in the IFBB will focus on coming in completely shredded instead of trying to keep some size to compete with the bigger guys like many of the smaller guys do in other shows.
Kai always puts on a show. I looked at bodybuilding.com for the live coverage but didn’t see anything or any links to it. Anybody know if they are doing it, or if there is another site to view it? I might be stuck with just looking at the pics online and in magazines.
[quote]Scott M wrote:
Kai Greene although I haven’t seen him on any competitors lists. It’s not a very star packed show compared to what the NOC used to be.
I’m MUCH more interested in the under 210(or whatever the cutoff is) class.
David Henry
Lou Joseph-pro debut
and a few other guys should make that very interesting. [/quote]
I’m excited to see Lou Joseph’s pro debut. Great looking physique.
Looks like someone here really doesn’t like the idea of a T-cell. I’ll just share.
[quote]2274 wrote:
Not to sound like a jackass, but the fact that the forum needs a T-cell says a lot about the mods and the serious guys here. In other forums, the dedicated ones know how to put the trolls in their place, and they get the job done. They also know how to turn trolls into respectable people.
Here, the trolls are just allowed to ramble and waste forum space. Nobody is making a stand against them, and the T-cell is the most prominent manifestation of this. Creating a T-cell is like going into exile, like giving up our motherland and independence to foreign invaders, and I think we should change this attitude.
I say let’s start a conquest to rid the forums of these trolls. Educate them. Make the mods more active. Hire more of the if we have to. Stop hiding from T-cells and bodybuilding bunkers. Make these forums the way we want them to be![/quote]
Arntz, Jason
Brown, Elvis
Canyon, Jimmy
Catapano, Gianluca
Chamberlain, Brian
Del Rio, Alfonso
Dixon, Charles
Elsetouhi, Tarek
Emelyanov, Oleg
English, Kevin
Feliz, Abiu
Henry II, David
Huff, Roland
Icli, Neset
Ingram, Leo
Jackson, Tricky
Jones, Ken
Joseph, Louis
Karaduzovic, Emro
Kjellstrom, Martin
Long, Don
Lytle, Daron
Mishin, Evgeny
Ogorodnikov, Sergey
Ojex, Bola
Rockel, Ronny
Shabazz, Roc
Stubbs, Joel
Thorne, Henderson
Vejic, Zoran
White, Ben
Wonsley, Nathan
Kai Greene
these are the names of the guys competing on may 10 at the new york pro
[quote]Rhal wrote:
Arntz, Jason
Brown, Elvis
Canyon, Jimmy
Catapano, Gianluca
Chamberlain, Brian
Del Rio, Alfonso
Dixon, Charles
Elsetouhi, Tarek
Emelyanov, Oleg
English, Kevin
Feliz, Abiu
Henry II, David
Huff, Roland
Icli, Neset
Ingram, Leo
Jackson, Tricky
Jones, Ken
Joseph, Louis
Karaduzovic, Emro
Kjellstrom, Martin
Long, Don
Lytle, Daron
Mishin, Evgeny
Ogorodnikov, Sergey
Ojex, Bola
Rockel, Ronny
Shabazz, Roc
Stubbs, Joel
Thorne, Henderson
Vejic, Zoran
White, Ben
Wonsley, Nathan
Kai Greene
these are the names of the guys competing on may 10 at the new york pro[/quote]
I have Kai and Henry at the top spots although there are a lot of other guys who are fresh(er) pros that can shock some people like Joel Stubbs and his back and mass factor, Ben White,and even some smaller guys like brian chamberlain who can come in shredded.
@Scott M and SSC I don’t think that it’s too much of a bad thing if Henry is dropping down to the lighter class. No matter how much muscle he packs on I don’t think he will ever be big enough to beat the “big guys” in higher level competitions. I think he needs to keep the focus on conditioning and proportions to get the WOW factor going for him. I have him as my favorite to win the ltwt class.
