[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
GetSwole wrote:
I want to publicly thank Fulmen for the progress and spirit he brought revival of.
Seconded.[/quote]
^^
What he said
[quote]Corkonian wrote:
Sentoguy wrote:
GetSwole wrote:
I want to publicly thank Fulmen for the progress and spirit he brought revival of.
Seconded.
^^
What he said[/quote]
Totally. Good job Fulmen.
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i think wrist curls are probaly the least effective forearm movement you could do. youre putting on like 20 lbs and doing it 40x why would someone think thats going to make lava lamp forearms (yea i went there)
I don’t know, I’ve seen pretty good results from wrist curls. I also often use 100+lbs on them. If you were only using 20 lbs then yeah, they would be pretty useless.
I’d also recommend reverse curls, and some form of gripping exercise (COC grippers, HS grip machine, etc…) and of course exercises where you must hold onto a heavy weight. Thick bar work is great, towel chins, anything you can do to overtax your grip will help to build bigger forearms.[/quote]
Some will call me crazy but I’ve built some strong forearms and several of my old teammates have built some big forearms doing this for baseball. Check it out…
Get a small bucket 5 gal preferrably. Fill it with rice. Stick your hand down into the rice about half way up your forearm. Grip the rice as hard as you can and twist your wrist one direction, relax hand, then grip again and twist wrist the other direction. Some college baseball guru’s taught me that one. If you do it for a few mins with each arm you will get an incredible pump.
Also set a bench where you can hang from a pull up bar and have your feet barely on the bench. Place two towels on the pull up bar and grip the towels with your feet on the bench placing all the dead weight on your grip with the towels. If you let go w/out setting your feet down first you will bust your ass on the ground so there is motivation right there.
Both of these worked more on grip strength .vs. size or shape for bodybuilding, but thought I’d contribute anyway.
Gerdy
i usually eat a 700 cal smoothie with 2 scoops Metabolic Drive about 1.5 hrs prior to training.
then BCAAs 15 mins prior.
immediately after training Surge + creatine
Welcome back Scott.
If this thread keeps up maybe some even older members may raise from the dead…
As for nutrition, what has been working for me is to eat a good deal of calories around training from whole foods. (Before/after)
[quote]SSC wrote:
For pre-workout, I’ll try to get two pieces of whole wheat (or some sort of multi-grain) bread with a lot of turkey, roast beef, and/or ham and some low/no-fat shredded cheese about one hour before I workout. I’ll then usually have a protein shake with two scoops (roughly 48 grams) of protein with some skim milk.
As for post-workout, I like to have the same kind of shake and a G2, but I’ll usually have some sort of burger patty / steak / chicken breasts or something like within an hour of getting back from the workout.[/quote]
I would drop the milk from the post workout shake and use water. I’m almost 100% sure milk slows the digestion of the fast acting Whey Isolate.
To the original question of post workout shake, shoot for 40g protein and 40-50g fast acting carbs. My favorite thing to do, if I don’t have any Waxy Maize Starch, do my 35g protein in water, then pound down 16 ounces of orange juice with creatine and BCAA’s. Wait 1-1.5 hours and eat my whole food meal.
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
Some will call me crazy but I’ve built some strong forearms and several of my old teammates have built some big forearms doing this for baseball. Check it out…
Get a small bucket 5 gal preferrably. Fill it with rice. Stick your hand down into the rice about half way up your forearm. Grip the rice as hard as you can and twist your wrist one direction, relax hand, then grip again and twist wrist the other direction. Some college baseball guru’s taught me that one. If you do it for a few mins with each arm you will get an incredible pump.
[/quote]
Similar exercises have been around for a long time in the Martial Arts community.
Here’s another one.
You’ll either need a bath tub/sink, large bucket, or nice weather (to be outside) and a towel.
Wet the towel (a small to medium sized hand towel would be a good place to start) completely and hold the towel by one corner with one hand. Now proceed to bunch the towel up into the hand. Every time you bunch more of the towel into the hand, you squeeze all of the water out of it. By the time you get the whole towel bunched up into your hand and squeeze all of the water out of the towel you will have a tremendous pump in your forearm/hand.
Repeat with the other hand/arm.
I got this exercise from John Brookfield.
[quote]
Also set a bench where you can hang from a pull up bar and have your feet barely on the bench. Place two towels on the pull up bar and grip the towels with your feet on the bench placing all the dead weight on your grip with the towels. If you let go w/out setting your feet down first you will bust your ass on the ground so there is motivation right there.
Gerdy[/quote]
Cool. Sounds similar to towel pull-ups.
About a year back I got suckered into the “do a bunch of sets but stop short of failure” bandwagon, and the results sucked.
So guys what do you think of training to “failure”, how far do you take your sets?
…Uh, also, please don’t respond unless you’re really big. No offense but I’d like this to be the one thread where the guys dispensing advice are qualified to do so.
[quote]irongutted wrote:
Welcome back Scott.
If this thread keeps up maybe some even older members may raise from the dead…
As for nutrition, what has been working for me is to eat a good deal of calories around training from whole foods. (Before/after)
[/quote]
This is pretty much what I try to do. ABout an hour and a half before training I try to eat a meal with complex carbs. If I drink a Surge immediately before training - it’ll all end up in the trash can about 15 minutes into my workout.
Post workout, I do have a 2-3 scoops of Surge, and about 10 BCAA caps.
Then I try to time my last meal with in an hour of training. Right now I kinda playing with no carbs in the last meal to see if there is any real difference.
this thread and prof. x’s mod deletion thread is really inspiring and even tho i’m a newb it makes me want to do everything bodybuilding style just to spite mfers
[quote]football061 wrote:
SSC wrote:
For pre-workout, I’ll try to get two pieces of whole wheat (or some sort of multi-grain) bread with a lot of turkey, roast beef, and/or ham and some low/no-fat shredded cheese about one hour before I workout. I’ll then usually have a protein shake with two scoops (roughly 48 grams) of protein with some skim milk.
As for post-workout, I like to have the same kind of shake and a G2, but I’ll usually have some sort of burger patty / steak / chicken breasts or something like within an hour of getting back from the workout.
I would drop the milk from the post workout shake and use water. I’m almost 100% sure milk slows the digestion of the fast acting Whey Isolate.[/quote]
Okay, sounds right, thanks for the suggestion. Hopefully at some point here I’ll be getting some Grow! Whey so it’ll be essentially flavorless, instead of this vanilla-flavored protein I have… I just can’t mix that stuff into water, I’d probably blow chunks.
question-
what do the big guys on this thread eat just before bed?
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
Some will call me crazy but I’ve built some strong forearms and several of my old teammates have built some big forearms doing this for baseball. Check it out…
Get a small bucket 5 gal preferrably. Fill it with rice. Stick your hand down into the rice about half way up your forearm. Grip the rice as hard as you can and twist your wrist one direction, relax hand, then grip again and twist wrist the other direction. Some college baseball guru’s taught me that one. If you do it for a few mins with each arm you will get an incredible pump.
Similar exercises have been around for a long time in the Martial Arts community.
Here’s another one.
You’ll either need a bath tub/sink, large bucket, or nice weather (to be outside) and a towel.
Wet the towel (a small to medium sized hand towel would be a good place to start) completely and hold the towel by one corner with one hand. Now proceed to bunch the towel up into the hand. Every time you bunch more of the towel into the hand, you squeeze all of the water out of it. By the time you get the whole towel bunched up into your hand and squeeze all of the water out of the towel you will have a tremendous pump in your forearm/hand.
Repeat with the other hand/arm.
I got this exercise from John Brookfield.
Also set a bench where you can hang from a pull up bar and have your feet barely on the bench. Place two towels on the pull up bar and grip the towels with your feet on the bench placing all the dead weight on your grip with the towels. If you let go w/out setting your feet down first you will bust your ass on the ground so there is motivation right there.
Gerdy
Cool. Sounds similar to towel pull-ups. [/quote]
The wet towel thing sounds fairly simple might have to try it. lol
Yes the towel thing is like towel pull-ups but even simpler. lol you just hang out and chill and focus on your grip being your only worry unlike pull-ups where there is more to focus on. lol
BTW your calf routine is working quite nicely 
Gerdy
[quote]cpcloud wrote:
question-
what do the big guys on this thread eat just before bed?[/quote]
well I’m not necessarily big but I eat something with cottage chese before bed and with breakfast.
Anything with Casein will work imo.
Gerdy
[quote]SSC wrote:
football061 wrote:
SSC wrote:
For pre-workout, I’ll try to get two pieces of whole wheat (or some sort of multi-grain) bread with a lot of turkey, roast beef, and/or ham and some low/no-fat shredded cheese about one hour before I workout. I’ll then usually have a protein shake with two scoops (roughly 48 grams) of protein with some skim milk.
As for post-workout, I like to have the same kind of shake and a G2, but I’ll usually have some sort of burger patty / steak / chicken breasts or something like within an hour of getting back from the workout.
I would drop the milk from the post workout shake and use water. I’m almost 100% sure milk slows the digestion of the fast acting Whey Isolate.
Okay, sounds right, thanks for the suggestion. Hopefully at some point here I’ll be getting some Grow! Whey so it’ll be essentially flavorless, instead of this vanilla-flavored protein I have… I just can’t mix that stuff into water, I’d probably blow chunks.[/quote]
Lol, I hear you on that. I’m just about to finish up my bottle Grow! Whey…it’s not too shabby in water. Has like a natural creamer taste to it almost. AWESOME when used in coffee!!
[quote]Natural Nate wrote:
About a year back I got suckered into the “do a bunch of sets but stop short of failure” bandwagon, and the results sucked.
So guys what do you think of training to “failure”, how far do you take your sets?
…Uh, also, please don’t respond unless you’re really big. No offense but I’d like this to be the one thread where the guys dispensing advice are qualified to do so.[/quote]
I agree with you to a certain extent. I’m by no means “Really Big” at a peak of 206 at 5’10", but I am decently strong for sticking more towards a bodybuilding routine rather than going for sheer power, and I like to think I have a good deal of knowledge of what is discussed on this site and these forums.
So by you stating that only the “really big guys” have any worthwhile knowledge and the only ones qualified to give knowledge can, in more than some cases, be completely bogus and outrageous.
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
Some will call me crazy but I’ve built some strong forearms and several of my old teammates have built some big forearms doing this for baseball. Check it out…
Get a small bucket 5 gal preferrably. Fill it with rice. Stick your hand down into the rice about half way up your forearm. Grip the rice as hard as you can and twist your wrist one direction, relax hand, then grip again and twist wrist the other direction. Some college baseball guru’s taught me that one. If you do it for a few mins with each arm you will get an incredible pump.
Similar exercises have been around for a long time in the Martial Arts community.
Here’s another one.
You’ll either need a bath tub/sink, large bucket, or nice weather (to be outside) and a towel.
Wet the towel (a small to medium sized hand towel would be a good place to start) completely and hold the towel by one corner with one hand. Now proceed to bunch the towel up into the hand. Every time you bunch more of the towel into the hand, you squeeze all of the water out of it. By the time you get the whole towel bunched up into your hand and squeeze all of the water out of the towel you will have a tremendous pump in your forearm/hand.
Repeat with the other hand/arm.
I got this exercise from John Brookfield.
Also set a bench where you can hang from a pull up bar and have your feet barely on the bench. Place two towels on the pull up bar and grip the towels with your feet on the bench placing all the dead weight on your grip with the towels. If you let go w/out setting your feet down first you will bust your ass on the ground so there is motivation right there.
Gerdy
Cool. Sounds similar to towel pull-ups. [/quote]
I just finished the exercise where you scrunch of the towel to soak the water out. I am now popeye. You should write an article on it called the 8 week forearm blitzkrieg.
Seriously though I could really feel the towel exercise work my forearms better than wrist curls. Thanks for the exercise Sento.
[quote]football061 wrote:
So by you stating that only the “really big guys” have any worthwhile knowledge and the only ones qualified to give knowledge can, in more than some cases, be completely bogus and outrageous.[/quote]
Maybe really big guys isn’t the operative term here, but people that have made significant progress(which doesn’t include newbie gains or puberty) with their physiques and or numbers will be given top priority.
9/10 if I want to know how to put an inch on my arm I’m going to ask a guy with arms that are pretty darn big, or at least a guy who I know went from 15-17s over the past year.
[quote]Lowery38595 wrote:
Seriously though I could really feel the towel exercise work my forearms better than wrist curls. Thanks for the exercise Sento.[/quote]
No problem. 