[quote]rainjack wrote:
cevet wrote:
what exercises or routines do people use here to help with making “perkier” biceps…thus really focusing on the head because I’m having trouble really getting them fuller.
“perkier”? You got a set of tits hanging on your arm, or something?
Shape comes from mass, BF, and genetics. If you have the ‘wrong’ insertion points, you are never going to have perky arms.
What is your height, weight, and arm size? [/quote]
im 171 lb, 5’8 and arms are 15 1/2 inch (not big by any means, but thanks for the different exercises)
[quote]Lowery38595 wrote:
Yea I have a hard time making mine grow. I rarely use straps except on heavy deads. They just seem to look proportionately smaller than my upper arm. So far I have heard reverse curls. Any other exercises.[/quote]
If you have low insertions (the muscle belly runs down close to your wrist) then you can make em’ pretty big.
Generally, though, people that have that don’t need to train them.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
cpcloud wrote:
sorry to hijack the thread but i’m a noob (1.5 years training) and have a TON of questions. what does everyone think about CNS fatigue? is that a real issue or should you just man up drink some coffee and hit the f-in weights?
The latter. Unless you are doing something ridiculous like training for three hours, teach your body to handle greater stress. I swear, if most of you get fatigued that easily, stay away from any grad school programs.[/quote]
Quoted for truth Prof! My average day for the past month has been about 30 hours long. I operate on a 4 day week now. Hopefully that will end soon. Plays hell with my strength training.
I’ve always thought that the more you can accustom yourself to high volume or heavy training loads as a newbie or as a young kid/teen (witness farm kids), the better you’ll progress in bbing or strength sports. I can’t prove it with studies, but too many people whine about overtraining when they have no business doing so, and many newbs that accustom themselves to crazy volume early on deal better with high volume later as vets… Food, food, more food, and sleep.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Professor X wrote:
cpcloud wrote:
sorry to hijack the thread but i’m a noob (1.5 years training) and have a TON of questions. what does everyone think about CNS fatigue? is that a real issue or should you just man up drink some coffee and hit the f-in weights?
The latter. Unless you are doing something ridiculous like training for three hours, teach your body to handle greater stress. I swear, if most of you get fatigued that easily, stay away from any grad school programs.
Quoted for truth Prof! My average day for the past month has been about 30 hours long. I operate on a 4 day week now. Hopefully that will end soon. Plays hell with my strength training.
I’ve always thought that the more you can accustom yourself to high volume or heavy training loads as a newbie or as a young kid/teen (witness farm kids), the better you’ll progress in bbing or strength sports. I can’t prove it with studies, but too many people whine about overtraining when they have no business doing so, and many newbs that accustom themselves to crazy volume early on deal better with high volume later as vets… Food, food, more food, and sleep. [/quote]
Agreed. The body can adapt to damn near anything.
As far as who I’d like to look like…a bit thicker Dennis Wolfe.
[quote]Lowery38595 wrote:
What are some recommendations on working the forearms? Do they grow fine without direct work? What are some of your thoughts?[/quote]
My recommendation is to lift heavy freakin weight often and without straps. Straps can be useful for bb purposes, but forearms won’t grow very well w/o direct work unless you’re really using your grip. And I’ve never felt like wrist curls did ANYTHING. However I would say that reverse grip bicep curls never worked my biceps as hard as they worked my forearms.
Btw, try rock climbing for a forearm pump. Trust me, you’ll notice a difference. Sorry, doesn’t seem very BB related, but it’s the best forearm work I’ve ever done, period. I swear to high heaven my forearms blow up to twice their size at the end of a climbing session. And the pump! I’ve never felt anything like the crazy pump I get from climbing.
[quote]Scott M wrote:
Bodybuilding discussion on the bodybuilding board? rubs eyes
I think I found a reason to actually post here again. Just have to pretend like the entire site is like this(serious bodybuilders who want to talk about bodybuilding) and hope this keeps going for awhile. [/quote]
i think wrist curls are probaly the least effective forearm movement you could do. youre putting on like 20 lbs and doing it 40x why would someone think thats going to make lava lamp forearms (yea i went there)
Generally, how long before working out do you guys consume a protein shake? How much protein do you consume before and after working out and what kind?
I’ve been using whey isolate 30 minutes prior to lifting (25grams), and (50grams) directly after lifting along with some simple carbs.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i think wrist curls are probaly the least effective forearm movement you could do. youre putting on like 20 lbs and doing it 40x why would someone think thats going to make lava lamp forearms (yea i went there)[/quote]
I don’t know, I’ve seen pretty good results from wrist curls. I also often use 100+lbs on them. If you were only using 20 lbs then yeah, they would be pretty useless.
I’d also recommend reverse curls, and some form of gripping exercise (COC grippers, HS grip machine, etc…) and of course exercises where you must hold onto a heavy weight. Thick bar work is great, towel chins, anything you can do to overtax your grip will help to build bigger forearms.
For pre-workout, I’ll try to get two pieces of whole wheat (or some sort of multi-grain) bread with a lot of turkey, roast beef, and/or ham and some low/no-fat shredded cheese about one hour before I workout. I’ll then usually have a protein shake with two scoops (roughly 48 grams) of protein with some skim milk.
As for post-workout, I like to have the same kind of shake and a G2, but I’ll usually have some sort of burger patty / steak / chicken breasts or something like within an hour of getting back from the workout.
[quote]Scott M wrote:
Bodybuilding discussion on the bodybuilding board? rubs eyes
I think I found a reason to actually post here again. Just have to pretend like the entire site is like this(serious bodybuilders who want to talk about bodybuilding) and hope this keeps going for awhile. [/quote]
At the rate this thread has been growing, and the sheer number of views it has received, I think it should keep going for a while knocks on wood.
