[quote]willden wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
As Jack Lalanne once said…Do lions stretch before chasing down a gazelle? Nope.
He knew more than any of you.
And that is why I don’t waste my time w/ that p*y-a** bull-s[/quote]
Who said anything about stretching?
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He never warmed up man, its a medical fact[/quote]
Give it ten years and let us know how that worked out for you.
[quote]willden wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
As Jack Lalanne once said…Do lions stretch before chasing down a gazelle? Nope.
He knew more than any of you.
And that is why I don’t waste my time w/ that p*y-a** bull-s[/quote]
Who said anything about stretching?
[/quote]
He never warmed up man, its a medical fact[/quote]
Sounds like just a regular fact to me 
In reality, you’re taking the opinion of one man and telling me that is stands over the countless opinions of others who are well versed in training as well.
One other aspect that you’re forgetting to remember is that we’re not lions.
His quote is actually pretty ridiculous, to be honest. Just because he was a fitness great, that doesn’t make EVERYTHING he says true!
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
As Jack Lalanne once said…Do lions stretch before chasing down a gazelle? Nope.
He knew more than any of you.
And that is why I don’t waste my time w/ that p*y-a** bull-s[/quote]
Who said anything about stretching?
[/quote]
He never warmed up man, its a medical fact[/quote]
Sounds like just a regular fact to me
In reality, you’re taking the opinion of one man and telling me that is stands over the countless opinions of others who are well versed in training as well.
One other aspect that you’re forgetting to remember is that we’re not lions.
His quote is actually pretty ridiculous, to be honest. Just because he was a fitness great, that doesn’t make EVERYTHING he says true!
[/quote]
Tell me how many of those others “well versed in training” will be able to tow 70 boats 1.5 miles at age 70 while handcuffed. It’s a physical fact that Jack did that without warming up. If you guys wanna waste 45 minutes stretching and warming up before lifting I suggest you join Curves and start a website called e-nation.
[quote]willden wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
As Jack Lalanne once said…Do lions stretch before chasing down a gazelle? Nope.
He knew more than any of you.
And that is why I don’t waste my time w/ that p*y-a** bull-s[/quote]
Who said anything about stretching?
[/quote]
He never warmed up man, its a medical fact[/quote]
Sounds like just a regular fact to me
In reality, you’re taking the opinion of one man and telling me that is stands over the countless opinions of others who are well versed in training as well.
One other aspect that you’re forgetting to remember is that we’re not lions.
His quote is actually pretty ridiculous, to be honest. Just because he was a fitness great, that doesn’t make EVERYTHING he says true!
[/quote]
Tell me how many of those others “well versed in training” will be able to tow 70 boats 1.5 miles at age 70 while handcuffed. It’s a physical fact that Jack did that without warming up. If you guys wanna waste 45 minutes stretching and warming up before lifting I suggest you join Curves and start a website called e-nation.
[/quote]
Once again, who said anything about stretching and 45 minutes of warming up? My post talks about a brief sequence of progressive weight warm up sets that takes very little time. If you want to have a legitimate discussion, than keep the facts straight and don’t exaggerate.
As for Jack’s comment; I don’t care if he pulled 1000 boats, he’s still able to be wrong.
Like I said before, his comment is ridiculous, as we’re not lions. On top of that, unless the lion is squatting in a power rack, I don’t care that he doesn’t warm up. Comparing a quick cardio burst to heavy resistance training is also ridiculous. It seems like you really like him, but don’t let that blind you to the fact that not every single word that he spoke was right. Seriously, you’re making yourself sound pretty off base.
Jack L maybe v fit but he aint the sharpest tool in the box. Fact is all cats do stretch, quite a lot as it goes. If anyone has a domestic cat they’ll know that they’re always stretching.
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
As Jack Lalanne once said…Do lions stretch before chasing down a gazelle? Nope.
He knew more than any of you.
And that is why I don’t waste my time w/ that p*y-a** bull-s[/quote]
Who said anything about stretching?
[/quote]
He never warmed up man, its a medical fact[/quote]
Sounds like just a regular fact to me
In reality, you’re taking the opinion of one man and telling me that is stands over the countless opinions of others who are well versed in training as well.
One other aspect that you’re forgetting to remember is that we’re not lions.
His quote is actually pretty ridiculous, to be honest. Just because he was a fitness great, that doesn’t make EVERYTHING he says true!
[/quote]
Tell me how many of those others “well versed in training” will be able to tow 70 boats 1.5 miles at age 70 while handcuffed. It’s a physical fact that Jack did that without warming up. If you guys wanna waste 45 minutes stretching and warming up before lifting I suggest you join Curves and start a website called e-nation.
[/quote]
Once again, who said anything about stretching and 45 minutes of warming up? My post talks about a brief sequence of progressive weight warm up sets that takes very little time. If you want to have a legitimate discussion, than keep the facts straight and don’t exaggerate.
As for Jack’s comment; I don’t care if he pulled 1000 boats, he’s still able to be wrong.
Like I said before, his comment is ridiculous, as we’re not lions. On top of that, unless the lion is squatting in a power rack, I don’t care that he doesn’t warm up. Comparing a quick cardio burst to heavy resistance training is also ridiculous. It seems like you really like him, but don’t let that blind you to the fact that not every single word that he spoke was right. Seriously, you’re making yourself sound pretty off base.
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I am keeping the facts straight, the guy lifted into his 90s and didn’t have any joint problems. We’re not lions, what’s your point? Our muscles work the same way. I’m not the off base one arguing with Jack. Arnold Schwarzenegger once stated, “That Jack LaLanne’s an animal!,” after LaLanne, at 54, beat a 21-year-old Schwarzenegger “badly” in an informal contest.
-Did you miss the part where lions live in the wild and sprint to hunt for food and not squat/press/pull heavy weight to failure?
-Did you miss the part where ONE in thousands does not equal a fact, it is simply an exception to the rule.
Anyways who gives a shit, knock yourself out, go ahead and don’t warm up for your 1RM. You’re going to be jacked and healthy until you’re 90.
First of all Jack was not an exception to the rule because of genetics. I am reading his book now, his father was overweight and died of a heart attack at a young age. He took proper supplements for his joints and took care of his body.
Lions live in the wild - what does this have to do with anything? You think striking and tearing apart their catches isn’t similar to a 1RM? Of course it is.
You guys are arguing about facts but haven’t given any yourselves, you are just trying to shoot down my arguments. Not my fault if you’ve been brainwashed.
[quote]willden wrote:
First of all Jack was not an exception to the rule because of genetics. I am reading his book now, his father was overweight and died of a heart attack at a young age. He took proper supplements for his joints and took care of his body.
Lions live in the wild - what does this have to do with anything? You think striking and tearing apart their catches isn’t similar to a 1RM? Of course it is.
You guys are arguing about facts but haven’t given any yourselves, you are just trying to shoot down my arguments. Not my fault if you’ve been brainwashed. [/quote]
I can see that arguing is going to get us nowhere. To me, it boils down to the fact that no matter how impressive Jack was, he was still just one person with one comment on warming up. To me, and I’m sure to the majority of people out there, one person’s comment does not overrule the millions of other comments touting the benefits and advantages of warming up.
As one above poster said, you should carry on performing heavy lifts with zero warm up. What happens happens. Best of luck to you and enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Ryan
I think warming up is common sense.
If you don’t your an asshole.
Even little stuff helps i guess. Warming up shouldn’t be calculated i don’t think.
A few sets with an empty bar a few lights weights i guess is enough.
Saying that i always warm up my rotator cuff at the start of any upper body workout. Internal/external rotations etc, face pulls. Kinda habbit now i don’t even think about it any more.
For all those spanners that do’nt warm up, try this. When you get out of bed in the morning, before you even put your slippers on, scracth your balls or whatever, try a 1RM squat. A warm up makes more sense than wearing a rubber in a whore house.
[quote]willden wrote:
First of all Jack was not an exception to the rule because of genetics. I am reading his book now, his father was overweight and died of a heart attack at a young age. He took proper supplements for his joints and took care of his body.
Lions live in the wild - what does this have to do with anything? You think striking and tearing apart their catches isn’t similar to a 1RM? Of course it is.
You guys are arguing about facts but haven’t given any yourselves, you are just trying to shoot down my arguments. Not my fault if you’ve been brainwashed. [/quote]
-Those things you stated don’t prove whether someone has good or bad genetics
-What kind of weather do most lions live in? hot or cold? do lions think “hey I’m kind of hungry” and pray immediately appears in front of them? so that all they have to do is take a bite? no they have to run/spring in HOT weather to get to the pray and actually kill it.
Go outside in the middle of winter, naked and shit, squat your 1RM, see what happens.
-What facts? a book by ONE guy who didn’t warm up? that’s not a fact.
As someone else already mentioned, I’ve never watched a video on warming up and I was never told to warm up, it was just common sense. You never see a boxer go right into a fight without warming up, you never see PROFESSIONAL sports team go right into a game without first warming up.
It’s common sense.
Do what you want- I’m not huge but I’ve been lifting on and off for four years maybe and I’ve never gotten hurt, I’m 26.
I bet there are plenty of baseball players who just show up and play. They are notorious for playing drunk/hungover or on coke. Just recently Dennis ?Oil Can? Boyd claimed he played 2/3 of the games high on coke. Doc Ellis pitched a no hitter while he was high.
You guys haven’t named ONE animal which goes through warm ups each day. Do you think Usain Bolt sits there doing warm ups for each race? He’d be too tired and it would slow down his time. Don’t get me started on warm downs, that is possibly the stupidest thing known to man.
In any case, you guys who are pretty much wishing for me to get hurt are assholes.
[quote]willden wrote:
First of all Jack was not an exception to the rule because of genetics. I am reading his book now, his father was overweight and died of a heart attack at a young age. He took proper supplements for his joints and took care of his body.
Lions live in the wild - what does this have to do with anything? You think striking and tearing apart their catches isn’t similar to a 1RM? Of course it is.
You guys are arguing about facts but haven’t given any yourselves, you are just trying to shoot down my arguments. Not my fault if you’ve been brainwashed. [/quote]
LIONS=PEOPLE
LOL
Is this real life? Where do these threads come from
[quote]willden wrote:
Do what you want- I’m not huge but I’ve been lifting on and off for four years maybe and I’ve never gotten hurt, I’m 26.
I bet there are plenty of baseball players who just show up and play. They are notorious for playing drunk/hungover or on coke. Just recently Dennis ?Oil Can? Boyd claimed he played 2/3 of the games high on coke. Doc Ellis pitched a no hitter while he was high.
You guys haven’t named ONE animal which goes through warm ups each day. Do you think Usain Bolt sits there doing warm ups for each race? He’d be too tired and it would slow down his time. Don’t get me started on warm downs, that is possibly the stupidest thing known to man.
In any case, you guys who are pretty much wishing for me to get hurt are assholes.[/quote]
-I’ll name one animal which goes through warm-ups other than humans when you name one who takes supplements and lifts weights for fun.
-No one is wishing for you to get hurt, I’m simply telling you to do whatever the fuck you want.
-Also the baseball reference, are you thick? there is always exceptions to rules, for the MOST part MOST professional athletes warm up, it will be stupid not to as the risk or injury increases.
Now this is my last response to your stupid “facts” unless you start to actually talk some sense.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Is this real life? Where do these threads come from[/quote]
They come from boredom, I think.
What is the point of even talking about it if your mind is made up? Sheesh people won’t even listen to the most famous fitness guru who ever lived because your own “common sense” overrides it. At one time common sense was that bloodletting was good and the earth was flat. I will grant you that some birds do stretch hence the phrase “stretch your wings”, but they are not mammals.
You should read his book “Live Young Forever”, it is really good.
[quote]willden wrote:
What is the point of even talking about it if your mind is made up? Sheesh people won’t even listen to the most famous fitness guru who ever lived because your own “common sense” overrides it. At one time common sense was that bloodletting was good and the earth was flat. I will grant you that some birds do stretch hence the phrase “stretch your wings”, but they are not mammals.
You should read his book “Live Young Forever”, it is really good.[/quote]
Hungry Trolls… here is a snack: Jack =/= Bodybuilder
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
What is the point of even talking about it if your mind is made up? Sheesh people won’t even listen to the most famous fitness guru who ever lived because your own “common sense” overrides it. At one time common sense was that bloodletting was good and the earth was flat. I will grant you that some birds do stretch hence the phrase “stretch your wings”, but they are not mammals.
You should read his book “Live Young Forever”, it is really good.[/quote]
Hungry Trolls… here is a snack: Jack =/= Bodybuilder
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What’s your point, he still lifted heavy ass weights