I want to run a 12 week cycle of Test Enanthate and Dbol. I have taken other types of gear but i was young ans stupid then, didnt even know what a PCT… im finally up to a respectable weight w/ a fine tuned diet and have been lifting consistently for a few years now but i want to push the envelope. so im turning to my fellow brothers for advice on how to get this done right.
Current gear-
200 tabs of Dbol (10mg)
20ml of Test Enanthate
i wanted to kick start the first 4 weeks with the dbol and run 500mg of the Test each week. What im looking for is a detailed PCT so i can keep as much of this as a i can.
weeks 1-12 500mg Test E
weeks 1-4 20mg Dbol/day
weeks 12-16 PCT
You will need to wait several weeks after your last injection of test to let it clear your system before you begin your PCT. Then use nolv 40/40/20/20.
Also, you are 4ml short of test to get 12 weeks at 500mg/week. I am assuming that your gear is 250mg/ml.
And a third thing, 20mg/day dbol is rather low. Use 30mg/day at least. I prefer at least 40mg/day. If you really have 200 10mgtabs then you should have more than enough.
20mg a day is considered kinda low like pain said, but if its your first time using it, then it ight be worth your while to start low and see how you respond. I personally respond to dbol very well, and only dose at 25-30mg at 235lbs. Trial and error. Theres alot of PCT options, look them up then ask specific questions.
If you’re all buying your Dianabol from labs, then you shouldn’t really base much on how you think you react to it. Mind the fact that most labs underdose their products, while a few overdose by as much as 10% from some of my past purchases.
ur right w. the calculations i have left over of test e that will cover the 4ml, ill take ur advice with upping the dbol to 25-30mg, and another thing i have been thinking althoug it is very exspensive is running .25mgED of arimidex cause i hate the feeling of extreme water retention.
id rather get quality muscle gains then see my weight sky rocket due to water retention. my strength is at a high level due to powerlifting for many years so im not worried about moving heavy weight, ive changed gears and have turned to bodybuilding
[quote]Jgd225 wrote:
ur right w. the calculations i have left over of test e that will cover the 4ml, ill take ur advice with upping the dbol to 25-30mg, and another thing i have been thinking althoug it is very exspensive is running .25mgED of arimidex cause i hate the feeling of extreme water retention.
id rather get quality muscle gains then see my weight sky rocket due to water retention. my strength is at a high level due to powerlifting for many years so im not worried about moving heavy weight, ive changed gears and have turned to bodybuilding[/quote]
You’re right about the arimidex. Don’t worry about running an AI throughout the cycle. I’ve been doing this and it has kept the bloat off while adding over 20 lbs just over the first 4 weeks using the exact compounds you are using (though mine has been a bit higher dosages than yours and it is my first cycle). I’ve heard a lot of guys say don’t run it unless you start to have problems, but why wait for problems when you can take care of them from the start. If you run a mild dose it shouldn’t hinder gains much.
Also, get ahold of at least another vial of test no matter what your test is dosed per ml. You won’t be able to get exactly 10ml out of each 10ml vial. You end up losing one to two mls and then you don’t have those for the last week or two of your cycle.
[quote]Jgd225 wrote:
ur right w. the calculations i have left over of test e that will cover the 4ml, ill take ur advice with upping the dbol to 25-30mg, and another thing i have been thinking althoug it is very exspensive is running .25mgED of arimidex cause i hate the feeling of extreme water retention.
id rather get quality muscle gains then see my weight sky rocket due to water retention. my strength is at a high level due to powerlifting for many years so im not worried about moving heavy weight, ive changed gears and have turned to bodybuilding[/quote]
I don’t understand why ppl think arimidex is sooo expensive. It really is not that bad. For instance, the oral bottle I have is 60mL at 1mg/mL. It was 60 bux. I take .25mg EOD. At this rate for my cycle, I will use 11.25mg for 12 week cycle. So that is about 1/6 of the bottle of arimidex which means about 10 bux for the cycle.
What is the difference between the liquid and the pill… im assuming the liquid is a generic type of arimidex. also idk if where aloud to ask but where do u find liquid arimidex im only seeing the tabs for like 3bills which is insane
[quote]Jgd225 wrote:
What is the difference between the liquid and the pill… im assuming the liquid is a generic type of arimidex. also idk if where aloud to ask but where do u find liquid arimidex im only seeing the tabs for like 3bills which is insane
good look Cortes thanks[/quote]
My good lord…$300 for how many pills at what dose? A hint for you would be research chemicals.
[quote]craig_4g63 wrote:
Jgd225 wrote:
ur right w. the calculations i have left over of test e that will cover the 4ml, ill take ur advice with upping the dbol to 25-30mg, and another thing i have been thinking althoug it is very exspensive is running .25mgED of arimidex cause i hate the feeling of extreme water retention.
id rather get quality muscle gains then see my weight sky rocket due to water retention. my strength is at a high level due to powerlifting for many years so im not worried about moving heavy weight, ive changed gears and have turned to bodybuilding
I don’t understand why ppl think arimidex is sooo expensive. It really is not that bad. For instance, the oral bottle I have is 60mL at 1mg/mL. It was 60 bux. I take .25mg EOD. At this rate for my cycle, I will use 11.25mg for 12 week cycle. So that is about 1/6 of the bottle of arimidex which means about 10 bux for the cycle.
Craig
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Craig, how do you take the liquid arimidex? Spray? Dropper? How do the dosages work with the dosing method? Seems like liquid would be hard to figure out, but that’s just because I’m unfamiliar with the method.
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Cortes,
The liquid adex is very easy to use. Comes with a measured dropped in the bottle. 1 mg/ml. Simple to measure, easy to use and is flavoured.[/quote]
Thanks LillGuy, I’m gonna attempt to have some shipped to Japan, as it appears there should be no problem with customs and this will save me a ton of money. Only thing I have available here is super-expensive pill form. 50 1mg pills (which I would have to cut) is around $200.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
LillGuy001 wrote:
Cortes,
The liquid adex is very easy to use. Comes with a measured dropped in the bottle. 1 mg/ml. Simple to measure, easy to use and is flavoured.
Thanks LillGuy, I’m gonna attempt to have some shipped to Japan, as it appears there should be no problem with customs and this will save me a ton of money. Only thing I have available here is super-expensive pill form. 50 1mg pills (which I would have to cut) is around $200. [/quote]
Sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner. The liquid adex has a dropper that is 1mL sectioned into .25mL. The adex is dosed at 1mg/ml like mentioned above. So I just fill the dropper to .25mL for my .25mg. It is kind of a raspberry taste, not bad at all.