Hola friends. The stickies have been a great help, but alas, I await your blessing: This is for a buddy* of mine.
Age 25
5’9"
175 lbs
W 1-4 Dbol 30mg/d
W 1-10 Test 500/w (2x)
W 3-10 HCG 250iu E3D
W 1-12 Adex .25mg EOD with taper at end
W 13-17 Nolva 40/40/20/20
Vitamin B Complex injections throughout, diet/training/supps all in check.
Interested in Cortes’ addition of Resveratrol during PCT. Also interested in FuriousG’s new PCT with HGH in there, but he’s* probably not ready for it.
Tell your friend to eat and train hard another year or two and get some meat on them bones. But if he must persist. IMO the dbol is better used a few weeks into a cycle once the test has saturated. [Also Im a proponent of all at once dbol dosing but I am in the minority there]. Also and not everyone believes in the practice but you could choose to frontload the test. That is take a full gram in this case week 1.
All jokes sides I was 5’9" 175lbs my junior year of high school and I wasnt even that big for high school. Sure your friend might gain 15-20lbs of this cycle but if he cannot gain off the gear he’s asking for problems.
I have a Resveratrol PCT protocol? Cool, I can’t wait to hear about it!
Seriously, I would imagine that was BBB that was talking about that one. Or someone else. I don’t know the first thing about Resveratrol.
Good to see a newb cycle on here that looks right, for once. Good job. Yes, you could be a little bigger before starting, but the fact that you were able to put the cycle together the right way and get it right the first time you posted it makes me think you’ll probably get the cycle right, too.
Only thing I would change is probably I’d frontload the test, run the entire cycle 8 weeks, start PCT in week 11, and run the dbol from weeks 6-10 so that you have a final blast at the end of your cycle and an additional two weeks of dbol support as the test clears your system so you can still keep going (you are going to be shut down until PCT anyway, so you might as well take advantage of it).
Again, good work on a well planned first cycle. And you even appear to be aware of the location of the shift key and the existence of standardized spelling and grammar. Joy.
No doubt we could be a little heavier. I will heed your advice and give it another 6 months of solid training.
Saps, your dose of truth is much appreciated, at my ego’s expense. Lol.
Cortes, I apologize. It could very well have been BBB. A few days of reading stickies and I lost track of where the tidbits of info came from. I too appreciate spelling and grammar above the 6th grade level. It makes me wonder what they’re teaching in school these days. But, from my understanding, is this the protocol you are suggesting?
W 1 Test 1g
W 2-9 Test 500mg/w
W 7-11 Dbol 30mg/d
W 11-14 Nolva PCT
HCG and Adex as prescribed above
PCT is W 12-15 (drop dbol a day before starting nolva), all else as is and you’ve got yourself a mean and nasty cycle. In a good way
One word of caution, when you start the dbol, the test will already be aromatizing pretty good, and you’ll be dumping a bunch of dbol on top of that, so don’t be surprised if you start to get bloat and nipple sensitivity pretty quickly. Up your dosage of arimidex as needed. Also my suggestion is that if you are getting your arimidex from a place that happens to sell it in liquid form, that most of them, unfortunately, cannot be trusted, and you are better off buying two different bottles from different places. Nolva,too. I will not use research chem places any longer, myself. Most of them have proven themselves to be charlatans and snake-oil salesmen.
Btw, somebody ought to sticky your post as the correct way to place a newb cycle advice thread. Started and finished in under 5 posts. Nice.
Thanks for the help Cortes. It took the better part of a day, but I think I found a few chem sites. Good call on diversifying though. I would get the real stuff but the price is astronomical.
In the mean time, I think I’m going to give Surge Workout Fuel a try and make some more natty gains.
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Thanks for the help Cortes. It took the better part of a day, but I think I found a few chem sites. Good call on diversifying though. I would get the real stuff but the price is astronomical.
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I have no idea how much pharm grade arimidex costs, or the ease of which you can get it… but most research chem labs adex is ~60 bucks per bottle. If you’re going to buy two (or even three) to diversify, you might just want to buy pharm grade adex to begin with, if it’s around the same price.
Pharm grade adex in pill form is, unfortunately, outrageously expensive. Then there’s the problem of the tiny little pills still being a full 1mg each. Liquid adex is much more convenient, if you are lucky enough to be able to trust it.