Hey, anyone who’s been doing the rows with an Olympic bar, do you have to put a plate or 2 on the end that’s in the corner to keep it from lifting off the ground?
I keep my hands right at the end of the bar before the weight, and the other end still comes up whenever I use over 180lbs.
I don’t know if it’s my angle because I’m so short, or if I’m supposed to be pulling back more instead of up, but my body is usually at a 45 degree angle when I do them.
[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
Hey, anyone who’s been doing the rows with an Olympic bar, do you have to put a plate or 2 on the end that’s in the corner to keep it from lifting off the ground?[/quote]
Nope. Sits in the corner just fine for me.
[quote]I keep my hands right at the end of the bar before the weight, and the other end still comes up whenever I use over 180lbs.
I don’t know if it’s my angle because I’m so short, or if I’m supposed to be pulling back more instead of up, but my body is usually at a 45 degree angle when I do them.[/quote]
I’m shorter than you and have never had a problem! Maybe your “corner” sucks! 
I tuck the corner under the leg extension machine. Makes the damn thing useful for once.
[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
Hey, anyone who’s been doing the rows with an Olympic bar, do you have to put a plate or 2 on the end that’s in the corner to keep it from lifting off the ground?
I keep my hands right at the end of the bar before the weight, and the other end still comes up whenever I use over 180lbs.
I don’t know if it’s my angle because I’m so short, or if I’m supposed to be pulling back more instead of up, but my body is usually at a 45 degree angle when I do them.[/quote]
Theres not really a free corner at my schools gym. I always set one end of the bar against the raised side of an olympic platform or against a wall, put a heavy dumbell over the unloaded end, and load the front end with a buncha plates.
If I’m lifting with someone, I have them put their foot on the other end. I’ve had the other end fly up a couple times when I’m by myself, but this has always been the last rep or so of a set when my form probably wasn’t perfect. I assumed that was the problem. You might have someone watch your form.
[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
SWR-1240 wrote:
Hey, anyone who’s been doing the rows with an Olympic bar, do you have to put a plate or 2 on the end that’s in the corner to keep it from lifting off the ground?
Nope. Sits in the corner just fine for me.
I keep my hands right at the end of the bar before the weight, and the other end still comes up whenever I use over 180lbs.
I don’t know if it’s my angle because I’m so short, or if I’m supposed to be pulling back more instead of up, but my body is usually at a 45 degree angle when I do them.
I’m shorter than you and have never had a problem! Maybe your “corner” sucks! ;)[/quote]
Well, it could be my “corner”. I use the corner of a power rack because all of the gym corners are cluttered.
That does make it easier to put a weight on the bar though. I lay the weight across the corner of the power rack, on top of the bar.
I still don’t see how the wall corner would stop it though. The whole bar lifted up, then the weights in front of me started going forward (and the back end of the bar was going up).
Also, I thought you were 5’5" also (well, I say I’m 5’5" but I’m closer to 5’4.75".
Oh, and sorry for the hijack.
So how much lower back cheating is allowed in T-Bar Rows to elicit the best gains. The only times I’ve seen guys besides myself do them are really huge dudes who put all of their lower back, middle back, lats, and a jolt of leg power into getting the weights above their waist and against their chest.
Is the T-Bar Row fundamentally different from Bent-Over rows in this way? Is Arnold’s form an example of a near full body workout or just a blueprint for normal people who want to kill themselves?
You may need to get the handle up closer to the plates, if possible, to keep the other end from coming up.
I use a standard bar and put the dead end into the corner of my power cage. At the other end, I use 2 of those cheesey spring collars facing each other to hold a short bar in place to make the T-bar, then just load the plates on the end and have at it.
[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
Nate Dogg wrote:
SWR-1240 wrote:
Hey, anyone who’s been doing the rows with an Olympic bar, do you have to put a plate or 2 on the end that’s in the corner to keep it from lifting off the ground?
Nope. Sits in the corner just fine for me.
I keep my hands right at the end of the bar before the weight, and the other end still comes up whenever I use over 180lbs.
I don’t know if it’s my angle because I’m so short, or if I’m supposed to be pulling back more instead of up, but my body is usually at a 45 degree angle when I do them.
I’m shorter than you and have never had a problem! Maybe your “corner” sucks!
Well, it could be my “corner”. I use the corner of a power rack because all of the gym corners are cluttered.
That does make it easier to put a weight on the bar though. I lay the weight across the corner of the power rack, on top of the bar.
I still don’t see how the wall corner would stop it though. The whole bar lifted up, then the weights in front of me started going forward (and the back end of the bar was going up).
Also, I thought you were 5’5" also (well, I say I’m 5’5" but I’m closer to 5’4.75".
Oh, and sorry for the hijack.[/quote]
This sounds dangerous
[quote]firestanggt wrote:
You may need to get the handle up closer to the plates, if possible, to keep the other end from coming up.
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Exactly. The other end doesn’t come up unless you are trying to lift the bar somewhere near the middle. That is actually the first time I have EVER heard someone comment that the entire bar comes up while doing the exercise. Your hands should be nearly touching the plates on one end or as close to that “weight stop” as possible.
[quote]slickid wrote:
This sounds dangerous[/quote]
Yes, you should probably just avoid the entire gym scene. I am sure standing outside and watching other people lift will work just as good.
ya, a little, but way to use your resources
[quote]Professor X wrote:
firestanggt wrote:
You may need to get the handle up closer to the plates, if possible, to keep the other end from coming up.
Exactly. The other end doesn’t come up unless you are trying to lift the bar somewhere near the middle. That is actually the first time I have EVER heard someone comment that the entire bar comes up while doing the exercise. Your hands should be nearly touching the plates on one end or as close to that “weight stop” as possible.[/quote]
I hold onto the bar where my hand is touching that weight stop, and can’t get any closer to the weights.
This happens every time, and I hear the back end hit that plate that I put on the back to hold it from coming up.
I stand at an angle that the plates hit me in the chest, just as the bar is barely missing my crotch.
[quote]FightingScott wrote:
So how much lower back cheating is allowed in T-Bar Rows to elicit the best gains. The only times I’ve seen guys besides myself do them are really huge dudes who put all of their lower back, middle back, lats, and a jolt of leg power into getting the weights above their waist and against their chest.
Is the T-Bar Row fundamentally different from Bent-Over rows in this way? Is Arnold’s form an example of a near full body workout or just a blueprint for normal people who want to kill themselves?[/quote]
I’m quite sure you can’t cheat too much if you are doing the bar-in-a-corner version of the T-Bar row.
The bar would unman you if you don’t bend over enough when pulling.
Would good form include a slight bend in the knees and barely bent over.
I think I’ll try this variation out for size. My 45’s have handles, maybe I can use those to create the ‘T’. Otherwise I can resort to an empty db or bar.
[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
firestanggt wrote:
You may need to get the handle up closer to the plates, if possible, to keep the other end from coming up.
Exactly. The other end doesn’t come up unless you are trying to lift the bar somewhere near the middle. That is actually the first time I have EVER heard someone comment that the entire bar comes up while doing the exercise. Your hands should be nearly touching the plates on one end or as close to that “weight stop” as possible.
I hold onto the bar where my hand is touching that weight stop, and can’t get any closer to the weights.
This happens every time, and I hear the back end hit that plate that I put on the back to hold it from coming up.
I stand at an angle that the plates hit me in the chest, just as the bar is barely missing my crotch.[/quote]
Wait…how tall are you?
If you are very short, that would explain a lot.
I am just in shock about the fact that the Proffesser does NOT deadlift. Did anyone else see that?
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
I am just in shock about the fact that the Proffesser does NOT deadlift. Did anyone else see that?[/quote]
I also take showers on a regular basis and wear new underwear daily. Call me crazy.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
I am just in shock about the fact that the Proffesser does NOT deadlift. Did anyone else see that?
I also take showers on a regular basis and wear new underwear daily. Call me crazy.[/quote]
I shower daily as well. But I don’t wear NEW underwear daily. I just wear CLEAN underwear daily. That must get expensive, do you give the old pairs to salvation army or something?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
I am just in shock about the fact that the Proffesser does NOT deadlift. Did anyone else see that?
I also take showers on a regular basis and wear new underwear daily. Call me crazy.[/quote]
Can i have your old pairs? I’m poor.