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I think I’ve said this already, but I certainly do know how to talk to people with decency. In fact, there are literally hundreds of foks who have participated on this site alone who can vouch for that. I’ve been on here foreeeeeeever dude. And I have had a massively positive impact on a lot of people here. It should tell you something that you are one of the select few who has ever been on this site who I decided to just straight up call an idiot. YOU are the anomaly.
Because really, there are two possibilities here. 1. somehow nobody has any sense of civility here, and you’re the only decent dude around. 2. You’re a clown, and everybody but you knows it.
I know which option you think is true, you’re just wrong.
good call.
I genuinely hope you come back and prove people like me wrong. I would much prefer that you have success. My expectations are not the same as my hopes. I always hope for success stories.
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I’m going to try to relate with you here, and I hope you can take it in. I’m going to be bluntly honest. I like to see people succeed, and I wouldn’t be wasting my time writing this, it’ll probably be long, if I didn’t think I could get through to you.
I read a bit more of your log, and from what I gathered is, you’re young, not just age but from a maturity level, Im not sure how you are outside of this thread, but in the lifting world, you’re still very fresh and still very immature. Despite lifting for awhile, you are still very new. You’re impatient. And Im afraid to say, a bit ignorant. Now, the Im not here to just criticize you, Im trying to help.
Let me tell you about myself, I’m 25, like I said. I’m 6’ 3”, weigh 282-284 most mornings, and I’m 110% lifetime drug free. I just competed at my first powerlifting competition a couple weeks ago, I squatted 585, benched 408 and deadlifted 650. I had plenty in the tank for squat and bench. To me, I’m nowhere close to where I want to be, I hate when I get compliments because I feel ashamed that someone looks up to me, and I look up to someone else.
I’m telling you this because, I was in your EXACT shoes. I started going to the gym in grade 7, once a week with my friend and his dad, typical curls and machines, I’d hardly call it training. Grade 9 I got my first gym membership, I would half squat, didn’t deadlift and I thought leg press weight was be all end all, comparing myself to Ronnie Coleman. I remember vividly, wanting to bench but I was too embarrassed to start with anything less than 135. I tried and pinned myself. Throughout high school I was mostly bro lifting, stopped squatting. Wasn’t until about grade 12/13 where I could actually bench 225 for just a couple reps, and I weighed probably 230-235ish. Still I was very immature, I was still deadlifting and was doing 405 for reps with the most atrocious form that I thought looked perfect. Around 2019 I started taking it more seriously, I followed mark bells Bench program and gained a ton of strength in 1 run through. I also decided at this time to start squatting and fix my deadlift form. Fast forward until now, I’ve ran barbell medicine 12 Week powerlifting program a few times and got great results , and I’m running my own programming now with what I’ve learned works for me and what doesn’t work for me, and it’s still not perfect.
My point is, I went through the same issue, expecting results in a couple weeks, constantly changing programming, ignoring feedback from people that know better, thinking I was deficient in test, thinking I had bad genetics, body dysmorphia, ALLL of it, I was there and I’m sure everyone in this forum has been. People want to see you succeed. This shit isn’t rocket science, it’s actually fairly easy, train until you almost can’t, go home, eat, recover and repeat. The gym is only a couple hours out of the whole picture.
What you need to do is figure out what your goal is, are you trying to get to a 225 bench, or are you trying to get bigger, you can’t have both, you’ll get a little bit of one if you focus on the other. That is if you’re natty of course. And I wouldn’t recommend any gear until you become advanced in your training.
Stay or go, it’s up to you. But please when someone is trying to help you, accept it. You need to take a step back here.
Good luck to whatever you chose to do, and if you decide to stay I can help you with that 225 bench. Hope you see gains in your future man
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The irony is how many ad hominem attacks you’ve laid on some of the more respected posters here, yet you’re feeling sorry for yourself because @flipcollar said you’re being an idiot once. It’d be one thing if you respectfully laid down your boundaries of how you’d like to be talked to in your log, and he kept calling you an idiot. But you’ve continued now with this meatheads must be derp derp stupid narrative, and c’mon man…that’s so cliche. The guys in here aren’t career bodybuilders. We have careers, families, spouses, kids, social lives, etc. outside of the gym, and we’re trying our best to help you. It’ll serve you well to drop the holier-than-thou approach with people YOU came to for help! I studied advanced math, too, and did a PhD in theoretical physics…and there a TON of posters just as smart and smarter than you or I.
Serious question, but do you have many male friends IRL? If I took it personally every time one of my friends said I was stupid or being an idiot, I’d be very very lonely.
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Damn bro that sounds like torture to me
It was wayyyyyy easier than getting my 315 bench 
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I certainly will. This really is extraordinary.
I can’t recall the last time one person single handedly screwed off as many of the most patient and helpful posters on this site as this dude has.
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Lol, I don’t feel sorry for myself, I feel sorry that he has to resort to that as his response 
its kind of loser-like when you have to resort to slurs to prove a point…
Yes I do, none who are lifters of course and I mean if they say “idiot,” it’s more of a friendly “idiot.” I would rather not call a stranger that or someone I don’t know, not really that kind of relation.
For someone who claims to have a PhD in theoretical physics you seem be to a lot different in terms of mindset compared to other PhDs and advanced degree holders I know, I’ve almost certainly never seen any of them act disrespectful to strangers…
People here generally seem to not have boundaries or maybe its how I have interpreted the bro-iness.
This is the least “bro-y” fitness site on the web.
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Then where are the boundaries lol?
you guys just go around throwing words at people you don’t know?
And to prove what exactly?
Wait, I’m being disrespectful now?! 
That’s incredible that you’ve had that experience, though. I actually left academia because of the people, particularly in physics. They were arrogant beyond what I could handle and I could only see 2 realities if I stayed: 1. I’d have to tolerate them my whole life, or 2. I’d become like them!
I don’t think you have directly been disrespectful (I can’t recall any specific instances), I was more pointing to the fact that you think him calling someone an idiot is fine (a stranger nonetheless).
I would never randomly call a stranger an idiot, dumbass etc, does that not sound kind of… indecent to you?
The thing is, people often use these words to prove a point, which in itself is kind of ridiculous, it kind of means you are out of anything else to say so that is all you’ve got instead of staying shut.
So I don’t really care who a “respect poster” (see the irony here?) is, just act decent man, why is that so… difficult to grasp for many people?
No. It’s definitely you.
Maybe it’s a miracle of Christmas or who knows what, but I’m usually a relentless attack dog once I see that someone is just a weak, lazy excuse riding douchebag.
But for some crazy reason I decided to turn over a new leaf like literally the week before you showed up. Then you started. And I was like “Nah. Not this time. Maybe I’ve been too harsh or given the wrong people short shrift when really they just needed pointed in the right direction.”.
I was wrong.
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Is it decent or respectful to excuse away the advice one solicits from folks more experienced (and more accomplished) in a certain topic? Advice/knowledge offered for free.
The resume of these folks is in their logs and based on long term interactions here.
Your indifference to that freely offered knowledge is what kind of cheesed everyone off. The crazy thing ii folks here still want to help you and see you succeed.
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Lol what excuses? It’s not like I quit. You are free to be a hater, I’ll prove all of you haters wrong
No you won’t.
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Let time be the decider then
I wouldn’t do that either. I try to use language that criticizes behavior vs. the person, i.e. that thing you did was idiotic vs. you’re an idiot. If it came across like I was defending him calling you an idiot, that’s not right either. My point is, I think you’re acting hypocritically when you ask him to stop with name calling when you yourself are doing 5x as much name calling. You are acting indecent by your own standards.
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Please show me where I first invoked a name-call on anyone at all 
So name calling is ok as long as they name called first?