When you raise your arm to shoulder level, whats the cavity called that appears between your shoulder and your trap
[quote]animal21 wrote:
When you raise your arm to shoulder level, whats the cavity called that appears between your shoulder and your trap[/quote]
Space.
I know its space.One of my friends just wanted to know.If anyone knows I would b happy to hear from them
[quote]animal21 wrote:
I know its space.One of my friends just wanted to know.If anyone knows I would b happy to hear from them[/quote]
You think that names are given to air? Empty air space is not a part of your physiology. The gap between your shoulder and traps…is called the gap between your shoulder and traps.
Wait, whats the space called between me and someone standing 2 feet away?
Striking distance.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
animal21 wrote:
I know its space.One of my friends just wanted to know.If anyone knows I would b happy to hear from them
You think that names are given to air? Empty air space is not a part of your physiology. The gap between your shoulder and traps…is called the gap between your shoulder and traps.[/quote]
For some external indentations there are names: suprasternal notch, supraclavicular fossa, infraclavicular fossa, philtrum. I don’t think there is a name for the indentations between delts and traps though.
I call mine Henry & George.
[quote]larryb wrote:
Professor X wrote:
animal21 wrote:
I know its space.One of my friends just wanted to know.If anyone knows I would b happy to hear from them
You think that names are given to air? Empty air space is not a part of your physiology. The gap between your shoulder and traps…is called the gap between your shoulder and traps.
For some external indentations there are names: suprasternal notch, supraclavicular fossa, infraclavicular fossa, philtrum. I don’t think there is a name for the indentations between delts and traps though.[/quote]
A fossa is not empty space. These are the names given to pits and grooves in bone. Pits in teeth even have names, but empty space between muscle groups does not. Someone lacking muscle mass will not even have much of an indentation there so to name it would be useless as it is not present unless your muscular development is significant enough to see a deliniation in muscle groups.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
A fossa is not empty space. These are the names given to pits and grooves in bone.[/quote]
For most fossa, yes. For supraclavicular fossa and infraclavicular fossa, no. These are the names for the indentations above and below the clavicle. They may also be used in a general way to refer to the internal areas below those indentations. Not all other fossa are pits and grooves (or holes) in bone either. Some are holes in muscle and other structures.
Also, I’m not sure where you get “empty space”. I never used the term. In the case of the OPs question, we’re talking about a name for an indentation, not the empty space held by that indentation.
[quote]larryb wrote:
Professor X wrote:
A fossa is not empty space. These are the names given to pits and grooves in bone.
For most fossa, yes. For supraclavicular fossa and infraclavicular fossa, no. These are the names for the indentations above and below the clavicle. They may also be used in a general way to refer to the internal areas below those indentations. Not all other fossa are pits and grooves (or holes) in bone either. Some are holes in muscle and other structures.
Also, I’m not sure where you get “empty space”. I never used the term. In the case of the OPs question, we’re talking about a name for an indentation, not the empty space held by that indentation.[/quote]
fos?sa (fs) Pronunciation Key
n. Anatomy pl. fos?sae (fs)
A small cavity or depression, as in a bone.
In other words, a pit or groove. That is what an indentation is. I am not sure what you are arguing.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
fos?sa (fs) Pronunciation Key
n. Anatomy pl. fos?sae (fs)
A small cavity or depression, as in a bone.
In other words, a pit or groove. That is what an indentation is. I am not sure what you are arguing.[/quote]
When you stated that “A fossa is not empty space. These are the names given to pits and grooves in bone.”, you seemed to be implying that the word fossa in anatomy refers only to bone indentations. If this is not what you meant, then your words were poorly chosen. A fossa may also refer to an external indentation, through-hole in muscle, through-hole in bone, etc.
Whether or not a cavity, depression, or hole is “empty space” is a matter of semantics. Anyway, the OP specifically used the word “cavity”, not “empty space”. He asked for the name of something that, if it had a name, might very well be called “something fossa”.
[quote]larryb wrote:
Professor X wrote:
fos?sa (fs) Pronunciation Key
n. Anatomy pl. fos?sae (fs)
A small cavity or depression, as in a bone.
In other words, a pit or groove. That is what an indentation is. I am not sure what you are arguing.
When you stated that “A fossa is not empty space. These are the names given to pits and grooves in bone.”, you seemed to be implying that the word fossa in anatomy refers only to bone indentations. If this is not what you meant, then your words were poorly chosen. A fossa may also refer to an external indentation, through-hole in muscle, through-hole in bone, etc.
Whether or not a cavity, depression, or hole is “empty space” is a matter of semantics. Anyway, the OP specifically used the word “cavity”, not “empty space”. He asked for the name of something that, if it had a name, might very well be called “something fossa”.
[/quote]
What? They weren’t poorly chosen because I then went on to even explain about the presence of indentations in TEETH and their names. Teeth aren’t “bones”. It is like you are nitpicking for no reason. I could see if I was completely unclear, but that was NOT the case. I also explained already that an indentation between muscle groups wouldn’t be seen if a person was undeveloped. You won’t be seeing it in an anorexic who weighs 65lbs. There were no major points missed. You are just trying real hard to show that you know something about anatomy. Congrats. I’m glad you took the college course or whatever level you finished.
Larry B,
If you don’t know the name for the space between the delts and traps, then maybe you ought stop arguing as your point doesn’t help answer the original question.
I am certain of this answer. The space between your shoulders and your traps is called the rectum. That is, of course, if your head is up your ass.
To the OP you said “You think that names are given to air?” In other words, you began this thread by suggesting to the OP that he had asked a stupid question. I don’t consider it so.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What? They weren’t poorly chosen because I then went on to even explain about the presence of indentations in TEETH and their names.[/quote]
You didn’t say that the indentations in teeth were called “fossa”. Read the thread again. I said “For some external indentations there are names”, then named some, some of which end with “fossa”. You replied “A fossa is not empty space.”
This seems to imply that either I made up those terms, that I am using them incorrectly, or that somehow you thought I was saying those fossa are the names for the space in the indentation rather than the indentations themselves. Which of those did you mean, or was your statement a complete non sequitor?
[quote]larryb wrote:
I also explained already that an indentation between muscle groups wouldn’t be seen if a person was undeveloped.
To the OP you said “You think that names are given to air?” In other words, you began this thread by suggesting to the OP that he had asked a stupid question. I don’t consider it so.
…
[/quote]
Even the OP considered it a stupid question, hence the title of the thread.
[quote]larryb wrote:
I also explained already that an indentation between muscle groups wouldn’t be seen if a person was undeveloped.
To the OP you said “You think that names are given to air?” In other words, you began this thread by suggesting to the OP that he had asked a stupid question. I don’t consider it so.
Professor X wrote:
What? They weren’t poorly chosen because I then went on to even explain about the presence of indentations in TEETH and their names.
You didn’t say that the indentations in teeth were called “fossa”. Read the thread again. I said “For some external indentations there are names”, then named some, some of which end with “fossa”. You replied “A fossa is not empty space.”
This seems to imply that either I made up those terms, that I am using them incorrectly, or that somehow you thought I was saying those fossa are the names for the space in the indentation rather than the indentations themselves. Which of those did you mean, or was your statement a complete non sequitor?
[/quote]
Let’s just call it the shoulder-trapezious foramina and get back to eating endangered species 
[quote]evansmi wrote:
Larry B,
If you don’t know the name for the space between the delts and traps, then maybe you ought stop arguing as your point doesn’t help answer the original question.[/quote]
I agree. If you know the correct name for the indentation between the traps and delts, enlighten everyone.
If you are here to nitpick, then why waste bandwidth trying to impress everyone. Also since we are on the subject of splitting hairs, I do believe you misspelled sequitur. Then again, possibly I have just commited a non sequitur.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
larryb wrote:
I also explained already that an indentation between muscle groups wouldn’t be seen if a person was undeveloped.
To the OP you said “You think that names are given to air?” In other words, you began this thread by suggesting to the OP that he had asked a stupid question. I don’t consider it so.
…
Even the OP considered it a stupid question, hence the title of the thread.
[/quote]
As I said, I disagree.
[quote]Coldiron wrote:
If you are here to nitpick, then why waste bandwidth trying to impress everyone.[/quote]
I’m not sure why you would think I’m trying to impress anyone, or why you would think my two points were nitpicks. Professor X clearly implied that things like the cavity between the delts and traps don’t have names. I pointed out that similar things do have names. This was not meant to impress anyone or as any sort of insult. He then implied that I was incorrect about this in some way, though it is not clear how.
It is the visable superfical amatomical landmark of the common insertion for both the trapezius and deltoid.
“Trapezius insertion - a continiuos insertion along acromion, spine of scapula and lateral third of clavicle.
Deltoid origin - embraces insertion of the trapezius: lateral third of clavile, acromium and spine of scapula” (Marieb,2004. Humam Anatomy & Physiology 6th edition. pages 352 & 355)