How do you measure your triceps strength ? ie should you be able to move more weight via a triceps extension than you can via a barbell curl ?
By how much you can bench press. This is the powerlifting section, no one cares how strong their triceps extensions or curls are.
^yup. Do some close grip bench presses, if you suck at them your triceps are weak
[quote]Loftearmen wrote:
By how much you can bench press. This is the powerlifting section, no one cares how strong their triceps extensions or curls are.[/quote]
I wasn’t sure where to post the question but thought as powerlifters are well known for their great triceps strength which is used for benching this would be as good a place as any to post the question.
Perhaps you could suggest where I should post the question as that would actually be helpful ?
[quote]tredaway wrote:
[quote]Loftearmen wrote:
By how much you can bench press. This is the powerlifting section, no one cares how strong their triceps extensions or curls are.[/quote]
I wasn’t sure where to post the question but thought as powerlifters are well known for their great triceps strength which is used for benching this would be as good a place as any to post the question.
Perhaps you could suggest where I should post the question as that would actually be helpful ?
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If you don’t mind me asking, why do you care?
I mean…how do you measure strength on any body part? If your goal is size or strength, then you should be hammering your triceps often. Are you a strong bencher? Can you do a lot of dips? Do your arms not stay in whatever size T-shirt you wear…
I’m thinking that I need to build more triceps strength in order to increase my bench and was reading some stuff by Louie Simmons and the subject came up, he mentioned that his triceps extension strength was much greater than his curling strength where as my curling strength is greater than my triceps extension strength even though I don’t really do much curling. So I just thought I would see which is more common, however I see now that perhaps the question is a little stupid sorry for wasting peoples time.
Getting stronger is never a bad idea, just dont get caught up in things like that when most likely you just need to get stronger overall.
[quote]cparker wrote:
Getting stronger is never a bad idea, just dont get caught up in things like that when most likely you just need to get stronger overall.[/quote]
Most definitely
[quote]tredaway wrote:
I’m thinking that I need to build more triceps strength in order to increase my bench and was reading some stuff by Louie Simmons and the subject came up, he mentioned that his triceps extension strength was much greater than his curling strength where as my curling strength is greater than my triceps extension strength even though I don’t really do much curling. So I just thought I would see which is more common, however I see now that perhaps the question is a little stupid sorry for wasting peoples time.[/quote]
Na don’t worry about that. This is a much more focused question than your original post. This is a question on your tricep strength as it relates to increasing your bench press.
Besides what you see as the ratio between your bicep and tricep strength, is there anything else that leads you to worry about your triceps as a weakness? If you fail a bench, where does the bar typically stall out?
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]tredaway wrote:
I’m thinking that I need to build more triceps strength in order to increase my bench and was reading some stuff by Louie Simmons and the subject came up, he mentioned that his triceps extension strength was much greater than his curling strength where as my curling strength is greater than my triceps extension strength even though I don’t really do much curling. So I just thought I would see which is more common, however I see now that perhaps the question is a little stupid sorry for wasting peoples time.[/quote]
Na don’t worry about that. This is a much more focused question than your original post. This is a question on your tricep strength as it relates to increasing your bench press.[/quote]
Agreed, and I think just about anybody can stand for more triceps strength on their bench. I’ve never heard anybody fail a bench and then say “Man I would’ve had that if my triceps weren’t so strong”
I usually fail on the bench about half way up which is why I’m thinking perhaps I need more triceps work, however I have read that for raw benching you should focus on the bottom of the bench so I’m a bit confused
[quote]tredaway wrote:
How do you measure your triceps strength ? ie should you be able to move more weight via a triceps extension than you can via a barbell curl ?[/quote]
Interesting question; and even elite Benchers aren’t really sure about that, remember an article Spoto did on saying extensions for him were hard to translate into strength and I recall Arcidi talking about his lying extensions being one of the keys to his pressing; you would think a big bench would mean a bigger tricep extension, but I haven’t found that to be the case at all, though some have.
Just use one of these. I don’t know what it is, but it sure looks like it could measure just about anything!
You’re welcome.
Good interesting question on ratio to bicep strength versus tricep strength. I would venture a guess that triceps should be 33 % stronger since they have three heads versus 2 of the bicep. I have never maxed on on curls or tricep extensions. But my triceps are significantly stronger than my biceps. I would also assume all good benchers have very strong triceps at least raw maybe shirted as well? If you suffer from curl itis and your biceps are stronger than your triceps you should be doing a lot of isolation work to your triceps after your compound work to get them stronger. Just my opinion…
[quote]Ryancoburn wrote:
I would venture a guess that triceps should be 33 % stronger since they have three heads versus 2 of the bicep.[/quote]
Yea and your quads should be 33% stronger than your triceps
[quote]tylerkeen42 wrote:
[quote]Ryancoburn wrote:
I would venture a guess that triceps should be 33 % stronger since they have three heads versus 2 of the bicep.[/quote]
Yea and your quads should be 33% stronger than your triceps[/quote]
Right! And actually, the triceps would then be 50% stronger than the biceps.
Well shit, I think that answers the question!
If you leg press 1000lbs, you should be able to do a tricep extension with ~750lbs, and bicep curl ~500lbs.
So, OP, go do some leg presses, and you’ll have your answer!
[quote]tylerkeen42 wrote:
[quote]Ryancoburn wrote:
I would venture a guess that triceps should be 33 % stronger since they have three heads versus 2 of the bicep.[/quote]
Yea and your quads should be 33% stronger than your triceps[/quote]
Very intelligent response ha ha when did quads become the antagonist muscle of the tricep?
[quote]Ryancoburn wrote:
[quote]tylerkeen42 wrote:
[quote]Ryancoburn wrote:
I would venture a guess that triceps should be 33 % stronger since they have three heads versus 2 of the bicep.[/quote]
Yea and your quads should be 33% stronger than your triceps[/quote]
Very intelligent response ha ha when did quads become the antagonist muscle of the tricep?[/quote]
Lol I was just making about your stupid comment, nice vocabulary there with “antagonist muscle” would almost make someone think you passed a physiology class
[quote]tylerkeen42 wrote:
[quote]Ryancoburn wrote:
[quote]tylerkeen42 wrote:
[quote]Ryancoburn wrote:
I would venture a guess that triceps should be 33 % stronger since they have three heads versus 2 of the bicep.[/quote]
Yea and your quads should be 33% stronger than your triceps[/quote]
Very intelligent response ha ha when did quads become the antagonist muscle of the tricep?[/quote]
Lol I was just making about your stupid comment, nice vocabulary there with “antagonist muscle” would almost make someone think you passed a physiology class [/quote]
i have a major in biology so yes I have passed many physiology classes. The problem with most every answer on this thread is powerlifters only care about performance of three lifts. So someone asks ratios of triceps to biceps strength and he is basically called a idiot for using his brain. No one one stops to even consider, is there a ratio would understanding weaknesses or my strengths leverages help me be a better powerlifter?