Hi.
As the title suggests, I’m just wondering if there are any generally accepted strength goals for - specifically - the High Bar squat.
I believe that for the Low Bar squat, an intermediate goal would be bodyweight x 1.6 and advanced would be bodyweight x 2.
As a way of background, I have been doing Leangains IF and strength training for about a year. Unfortunately, I discovered a few months ago that I have two herniated discs. While not the end of the world, I have stopped deadlifting (for a while at least) and have changed from low bar to high bar squats. Hence my query…
I’m fairly new to strength training but yeah same old story…I’ve fallen head over heels in love with it. Would just be great if I had some figures to shoot for…
Many thanks.
Red
I think such goals are highly subjective. I just keep striving to add weight to the bar. I think less in terms of goals and more in terms of milestones - 3 plate, 4 plate, 5 plate, etc. As I’ve gotten stronger I’ve never hit any of those milestones and told myself “that’s enough weight, I’m just going to workout with ### pounds now”.
That’s just me though. Good luck to you!
[quote]twojarslave wrote:
I think such goals are highly subjective. I just keep striving to add weight to the bar. I think less in terms of goals and more in terms of milestones - 3 plate, 4 plate, 5 plate, etc. As I’ve gotten stronger I’ve never hit any of those milestones and told myself “that’s enough weight, I’m just going to workout with ### pounds now”.
That’s just me though. Good luck to you![/quote]
KISS
Pretty much can be used for so much in life right my friend?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]twojarslave wrote:
I think such goals are highly subjective. I just keep striving to add weight to the bar. I think less in terms of goals and more in terms of milestones - 3 plate, 4 plate, 5 plate, etc. As I’ve gotten stronger I’ve never hit any of those milestones and told myself “that’s enough weight, I’m just going to workout with ### pounds now”.
That’s just me though. Good luck to you![/quote]
KISS
Pretty much can be used for so much in life right my friend?[/quote]
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[quote]twojarslave wrote:
I think such goals are highly subjective. I just keep striving to add weight to the bar. I think less in terms of goals and more in terms of milestones - 3 plate, 4 plate, 5 plate, etc. As I’ve gotten stronger I’ve never hit any of those milestones and told myself “that’s enough weight, I’m just going to workout with ### pounds now”.
That’s just me though. Good luck to you![/quote]
Hi twojar, derek
Thanks for the replys. To be honest, I thought that the whole point about these strength markers is precisely that they were not subjective - that relative to bodyweight they offer a clear objective guide.
But I do get your point about not being limited by them and not becoming too cozy with them. Like you said, I will strive to go beyond them…when I start to approach them!
Yes indeed. Again, a great philosophy for life. Cheers.
If you google “What is strong?” you will get some articles that can help put numbers in perspective in both absolute terms and relative to bodyweight. Lifting numbers will always be subjective.
Do you want to shoot for a high bar squat that is good for…
The guys at your office with dusty bowflexes in their basement?
The guys at your gym doing quarter squats?
The guys at the gym across town who are serious about strength?
The guys at the gym you don’t know about squatting 800+ pounds?
You and your own potential?
There’s no right answer here except your own. A good high bar squat goal is most definitely subjective.
Red bull…don’t worry if its high or low bar. As long as your hitting depth your good. There are no actual stander in regards to strength level differences in regards to bar placement. Bar placement is pretty much dependent on the person.
[quote]twojarslave wrote:
If you google “What is strong?” you will get some articles that can help put numbers in perspective in both absolute terms and relative to bodyweight. Lifting numbers will always be subjective.
Do you want to shoot for a high bar squat that is good for…
The guys at your office with dusty bowflexes in their basement?
The guys at your gym doing quarter squats?
The guys at the gym across town who are serious about strength?
The guys at the gym you don’t know about squatting 800+ pounds?
You and your own potential?
There’s no right answer here except your own. A good high bar squat goal is most definitely subjective.[/quote]
^^ This
[quote]twojarslave wrote:
If you google “What is strong?” you will get some articles that can help put numbers in perspective in both absolute terms and relative to bodyweight. Lifting numbers will always be subjective.
Do you want to shoot for a high bar squat that is good for…
The guys at your office with dusty bowflexes in their basement?
The guys at your gym doing quarter squats?
The guys at the gym across town who are serious about strength?
The guys at the gym you don’t know about squatting 800+ pounds?
You and your own potential?
There’s no right answer here except your own. A good high bar squat goal is most definitely subjective.[/quote]
^^this
[quote]bulldog9899 wrote:
Red bull…don’t worry if its high or low bar. As long as your hitting depth your good. There are no actual stander in regards to strength level differences in regards to bar placement. Bar placement is pretty much dependent on the person.[/quote]
Hi bulldog. That’s good to hear then because I am certainly hitting depth. I mean my arse almost touches my heels. Well below parallel…
[quote]twojarslave wrote:
If you google “What is strong?” you will get some articles that can help put numbers in perspective in both absolute terms and relative to bodyweight. Lifting numbers will always be subjective.
Do you want to shoot for a high bar squat that is good for…
The guys at your office with dusty bowflexes in their basement?
The guys at your gym doing quarter squats?
The guys at the gym across town who are serious about strength?
The guys at the gym you don’t know about squatting 800+ pounds?
You and your own potential?
There’s no right answer here except your own. A good high bar squat goal is most definitely subjective.[/quote]
Thanks mate. I hear you. And although there is perhaps no ‘right’ answer, I do actually like the ring of the last one…as in me, and my own potential, and taking into account what that means in every sense…i.e. all the factors - my age, my relatively low training experience, my injuries etc, even what’s important to me…
On that last note it’s funny because I started strength training with the primary aim of achieving an aesthetic goal i.e lowering my bodyfat, getting cut. Starting to lift heavy was just a way to achieve that. But very soon - as I suspect happens to a lot of people - I became hooked on the goal of getting stronger in itself.
Of course, I realize that the two go nicely together (to a degree). But even still, I’m starting to wonder which one is becoming more important to me. I guess we’ll see…
[quote]red bull wrote:
[quote]bulldog9899 wrote:
Red bull…don’t worry if its high or low bar. As long as your hitting depth your good. There are no actual stander in regards to strength level differences in regards to bar placement. Bar placement is pretty much dependent on the person.[/quote]
Hi bulldog. That’s good to hear then because I am certainly hitting depth. I mean my arse almost touches my heels. Well below parallel…
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Then its all good as long as your hitting depth or below its all good.