[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]seekonk wrote:
[quote]johnman18 wrote:
[quote]LYFT-R wrote:
IMO I would not do them. I think you can get a better looking physique without any drug[/quote]
Come on now…[/quote]
Tastes differ. Many guys, and many women, don’t like that big a look.
[/quote]
yeah women these days tend to gravitate towards the pussies…
[/quote]
Where are these women? They haven’t found me yet!
[/quote]
well played sir
[quote]willden wrote:
possibly affect your ability to have kids long term
[/quote]
Im curious
Has this actually been confirmed, ever, or is it just a fucking myth
Cause i’ll be damned if Centopani even lowered his dose when his wife got prego, same for dante, same for yada yada yada
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote] willden wrote:
there has NEVER been ONE case of permanent sterility from steroids. do some fucking research holy shit kid
[/quote]
Yeah that was my thought
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]seekonk wrote:
[quote]johnman18 wrote:
[quote]LYFT-R wrote:
IMO I would not do them. I think you can get a better looking physique without any drug[/quote]
Come on now…[/quote]
Tastes differ. Many guys, and many women, don’t like that big a look.
[/quote]
yeah women these days tend to gravitate towards the pussies…
makes me scratch my head… I thought men were supposed to be big and strong?[/quote]
Not really relevant. You can be plenty big and strong without steroids for all purposes except competing in a professional bodybuilding show. Only a minority of women like the professional bodybuilder look.
[quote]lemony2j wrote:
[quote]seekonk wrote:
[quote]johnman18 wrote:
[quote]LYFT-R wrote:
IMO I would not do them. I think you can get a better looking physique without any drug[/quote]
Come on now…[/quote]
Tastes differ. Many guys, and many women, don’t like that big a cock.
[/quote]
edited for truth[/quote]
Well, that’s a different question 
It is common knowledge that the freakier the muscles the smaller the dick.
Not all common knowledge is true, but just saying.
I have a feeling you wouldnt adhere to these beliefs if you were not a skinny bastard yourself.
Permanent sterility? Highly, highly unlikely.
Zero (or extremely low) sperm count for long periods, possibly even years? Happens ALL the time.
Not a big deal when you’re 25 and single (or already have had your kids) but if starting a family in the immediate future is on your radar it’s something to be concerned with.
Do some fucking research? Sheesh.
Generally, based on what I’ve read in steroid-logs and users I have interacted with, I think 99% of steroid users are people who do not have a strong will.
Generally I think the average steroid user is either a newbie in bodybuilding, or then has trained for years with shit diet, irregurarl training and thinks he has reached his genetic limit. Getting wasted on saturdays seems to be a thing on both groups.
Only 1%, the rare, seem to have trained obsessively for years, with goals, logs, proper diet etc.
I mean seriously, go to offtopic now, read some logs. What you will see:
“bad eating habits, bad training habits”
“Yeah I train every day and I compete” but " I eat mcd, tacobell, 6beers in the evening/get wasted on weekends"
“cardio is for bitches”
benchpress weight = squat weight
etc
Therefore, I dont think steriods are good for the general population, and certainly not for newbie OP.
And yes they do have side-effects, do your research, and also realize after your cycle, your own natural hormone production will be less because of the hypotalamus adaptation.(the higher your levels are above baseline, the less your body will produce it) thus you will get testicle shrinkage etc. And grow manboobs if you have completely failed.
[quote]NikH wrote:
Generally, based on what I’ve read in steroid-logs and users I have interacted with, I think 99% of steroid users are people who do not have a strong will.
Generally I think the average steroid user is either a newbie in bodybuilding, or then has trained for years with shit diet, irregurarl training and thinks he has reached his genetic limit. Getting wasted on saturdays seems to be a thing on both groups.
Only 1%, the rare, seem to have trained obsessively for years, with goals, logs, proper diet etc.
I mean seriously, go to offtopic now, read some logs. What you will see:
“bad eating habits, bad training habits”
“Yeah I train every day and I compete” but " I eat mcd, tacobell, 6beers in the evening/get wasted on weekends"
“cardio is for bitches”
benchpress weight = squat weight
etc
Therefore, I dont think steriods are good for the general population, and certainly not for newbie OP.
And yes they do have side-effects, do your research, and also realize after your cycle, your own natural hormone production will be less because of the hypotalamus adaptation.(the higher your levels are above baseline, the less your body will produce it) thus you will get testicle shrinkage etc. And grow manboobs if you have completely failed.[/quote]
There’s a lot wrong with this post and although I find there little to gain from arguing over the Internet I’ve got to bring you up on it
I can’t remember the last time I read one of the above comments in the steroid sub-forum so might be an idea to remove the quotations.
As mentioned before in this thread the side effects you mentioned are easily mitigated, someone who has spent 10 minutes researching could tell you this
Stop speaking with such authority when you’re clearly regurgitating the same garbage you heard elsewhere
[quote]Dieseldave wrote:
[quote]NikH wrote:
Generally, based on what I’ve read in steroid-logs and users I have interacted with, I think 99% of steroid users are people who do not have a strong will.
Generally I think the average steroid user is either a newbie in bodybuilding, or then has trained for years with shit diet, irregurarl training and thinks he has reached his genetic limit. Getting wasted on saturdays seems to be a thing on both groups.
Only 1%, the rare, seem to have trained obsessively for years, with goals, logs, proper diet etc.
I mean seriously, go to offtopic now, read some logs. What you will see:
“bad eating habits, bad training habits”
“Yeah I train every day and I compete” but " I eat mcd, tacobell, 6beers in the evening/get wasted on weekends"
“cardio is for bitches”
benchpress weight = squat weight
etc
Therefore, I dont think steriods are good for the general population, and certainly not for newbie OP.
And yes they do have side-effects, do your research, and also realize after your cycle, your own natural hormone production will be less because of the hypotalamus adaptation.(the higher your levels are above baseline, the less your body will produce it) thus you will get testicle shrinkage etc. And grow manboobs if you have completely failed.[/quote]
There’s a lot wrong with this post and although I find there little to gain from arguing over the Internet I’ve got to bring you up on it
I can’t remember the last time I read one of the above comments in the steroid sub-forum so might be an idea to remove the quotations.
As mentioned before in this thread the side effects you mentioned are easily mitigated, someone who has spent 10 minutes researching could tell you this
Stop speaking with such authority when you’re clearly regurgitating the same garbage you heard elsewhere [/quote]
haha nailed it
[quote]Dieseldave wrote:
[quote]NikH wrote:
Generally, based on what I’ve read in steroid-logs and users I have interacted with, I think 99% of steroid users are people who do not have a strong will.
Generally I think the average steroid user is either a newbie in bodybuilding, or then has trained for years with shit diet, irregurarl training and thinks he has reached his genetic limit. Getting wasted on saturdays seems to be a thing on both groups.
Only 1%, the rare, seem to have trained obsessively for years, with goals, logs, proper diet etc.
I mean seriously, go to offtopic now, read some logs. What you will see:
“bad eating habits, bad training habits”
“Yeah I train every day and I compete” but " I eat mcd, tacobell, 6beers in the evening/get wasted on weekends"
“cardio is for bitches”
benchpress weight = squat weight
etc
Therefore, I dont think steriods are good for the general population, and certainly not for newbie OP.
And yes they do have side-effects, do your research, and also realize after your cycle, your own natural hormone production will be less because of the hypotalamus adaptation.(the higher your levels are above baseline, the less your body will produce it) thus you will get testicle shrinkage etc. And grow manboobs if you have completely failed.[/quote]
There’s a lot wrong with this post and although I find there little to gain from arguing over the Internet I’ve got to bring you up on it
I can’t remember the last time I read one of the above comments in the steroid sub-forum so might be an idea to remove the quotations.
As mentioned before in this thread the side effects you mentioned are easily mitigated, someone who has spent 10 minutes researching could tell you this
Stop speaking with such authority when you’re clearly regurgitating the same garbage you heard elsewhere [/quote]
Coming from guy who is asking for advice @ steroids. Cool story, bro.
[quote]NikH wrote:
Generally, based on what I’ve read in steroid-logs and users I have interacted with, I think 99% of steroid users are people who do not have a strong will.
Generally I think the average steroid user is either a newbie in bodybuilding, or then has trained for years with shit diet, irregurarl training and thinks he has reached his genetic limit. Getting wasted on saturdays seems to be a thing on both groups.
Only 1%, the rare, seem to have trained obsessively for years, with goals, logs, proper diet etc.
I mean seriously, go to offtopic now, read some logs. What you will see:
“bad eating habits, bad training habits”
“Yeah I train every day and I compete” but " I eat mcd, tacobell, 6beers in the evening/get wasted on weekends"
“cardio is for bitches”
benchpress weight = squat weight
etc
Therefore, I dont think steriods are good for the general population, and certainly not for newbie OP.
And yes they do have side-effects, do your research, and also realize after your cycle, your own natural hormone production will be less because of the hypotalamus adaptation.(the higher your levels are above baseline, the less your body will produce it) thus you will get testicle shrinkage etc. And grow manboobs if you have completely failed.[/quote]
It shocks me that there are people who are willing to put themselves out there with shit like this, and DONT expect to look completely retarded.
[quote]Dieseldave wrote:
[quote]NikH wrote:
Generally, based on what I’ve read in steroid-logs and users I have interacted with, I think 99% of steroid users are people who do not have a strong will.
Generally I think the average steroid user is either a newbie in bodybuilding, or then has trained for years with shit diet, irregurarl training and thinks he has reached his genetic limit. Getting wasted on saturdays seems to be a thing on both groups.
Only 1%, the rare, seem to have trained obsessively for years, with goals, logs, proper diet etc.
I mean seriously, go to offtopic now, read some logs. What you will see:
“bad eating habits, bad training habits”
“Yeah I train every day and I compete” but " I eat mcd, tacobell, 6beers in the evening/get wasted on weekends"
“cardio is for bitches”
benchpress weight = squat weight
etc
Therefore, I dont think steriods are good for the general population, and certainly not for newbie OP.
And yes they do have side-effects, do your research, and also realize after your cycle, your own natural hormone production will be less because of the hypotalamus adaptation.(the higher your levels are above baseline, the less your body will produce it) thus you will get testicle shrinkage etc. And grow manboobs if you have completely failed.[/quote]
There’s a lot wrong with this post and although I find there little to gain from arguing over the Internet I’ve got to bring you up on it
I can’t remember the last time I read one of the above comments in the steroid sub-forum so might be an idea to remove the quotations.
As mentioned before in this thread the side effects you mentioned are easily mitigated, someone who has spent 10 minutes researching could tell you this
Stop speaking with such authority when you’re clearly regurgitating the same garbage you heard elsewhere [/quote]
Scimmed first few topics in steroid.
First thread: guy who takes roids and competes eats “full bag of nachos, a pizza, and a ton of other shit.”
Second thread: 46yo Guy training olympic lifting wants to get bigger, has trained for 2years. Can only train 3x week because of doms.
third thread: 28yo guy has used steroids for 2years and trained for 10years, wants more lean body mass and fix is dick.
Yeah I think I got most of it covered.
I feel like
[quote]NikH wrote:
Generally, based on what I’ve read in steroid-logs and users I have interacted with, I think 99% of steroid users are people who do not have a strong will.
Generally I think the average steroid user is either a newbie in bodybuilding, or then has trained for years with shit diet, irregurarl training and thinks he has reached his genetic limit. Getting wasted on saturdays seems to be a thing on both groups.
Only 1%, the rare, seem to have trained obsessively for years, with goals, logs, proper diet etc.
I mean seriously, go to offtopic now, read some logs. What you will see:
“bad eating habits, bad training habits”
“Yeah I train every day and I compete” but " I eat mcd, tacobell, 6beers in the evening/get wasted on weekends"
“cardio is for bitches”
benchpress weight = squat weight
etc
Therefore, I dont think steriods are good for the general population, and certainly not for newbie OP.
And yes they do have side-effects, do your research, and also realize after your cycle, your own natural hormone production will be less because of the hypotalamus adaptation.(the higher your levels are above baseline, the less your body will produce it) thus you will get testicle shrinkage etc. And grow manboobs if you have completely failed.[/quote]
haha nailed it
NikH is actually absolutely correct…
sadly this is characteristic of every steroid board that I post on (5)
it has nothing to do with people who want to do steroids however… most people in general are just…well… stupid.
I mean… look at wilden lmao
This thread turned into an interesting read.
I’m not in a place right now where I’d consider using them. Some health issues that would currently make AAS use a bad idea, and I also don’t get to spend enough time in the gym these days to warrant their use. I could probably get some if I wanted to, but I’d have NO idea about quality/what I’d actually be getting.
Strangely (perhaps), I kind of regret not using them when I was in my mid 20s, into BB big time, lifting at a great BB gym and could get the ‘good stuff’ easily from reliable sources and had very knowledgable guys around me. I also see young guys these days who I’d say have no business using, primarily b/c they seem to have done zero research, and apparently just go completely overboard in terms of quantity, have no concept of cycling, haven’t even heard of PCT etc.
I dunno. I won’t really tell anyone to use or not. Just do your homework if you decide to use.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
NikH is actually absolutely correct…
sadly this is characteristic of every steroid board that I post on (5)
it has nothing to do with people who want to do steroids however… most people in general are just…well… stupid.
I mean… look at wilden lmao[/quote]
I agree that there are waaaaay too many people who jump into PED use without doing enough research or having a decent mentor, but his assertion that “99%” of all users are simply weak-willed is ridiculous.
It’s essentially saying that nearly all users of AAS are simply looking for a short-cut and are a bunch of pussies incapable of making any significant gains otherwise. I strongly disagree with this. Some will use for that purpose, but most of the guys on gear that i know are serious lifters who’ve made serious gains.
I am, for the record, a natural lifter by the way. I just feel its important for me to be as educated and understanding as possible on the subject of PED’s should i ever decide to go down that road myself.
[quote]NikH wrote:
[quote]Dieseldave wrote:
[quote]NikH wrote:
Generally, based on what I’ve read in steroid-logs and users I have interacted with, I think 99% of steroid users are people who do not have a strong will.
Generally I think the average steroid user is either a newbie in bodybuilding, or then has trained for years with shit diet, irregurarl training and thinks he has reached his genetic limit. Getting wasted on saturdays seems to be a thing on both groups.
Only 1%, the rare, seem to have trained obsessively for years, with goals, logs, proper diet etc.
I mean seriously, go to offtopic now, read some logs. What you will see:
“bad eating habits, bad training habits”
“Yeah I train every day and I compete” but " I eat mcd, tacobell, 6beers in the evening/get wasted on weekends"
“cardio is for bitches”
benchpress weight = squat weight
etc
Therefore, I dont think steriods are good for the general population, and certainly not for newbie OP.
And yes they do have side-effects, do your research, and also realize after your cycle, your own natural hormone production will be less because of the hypotalamus adaptation.(the higher your levels are above baseline, the less your body will produce it) thus you will get testicle shrinkage etc. And grow manboobs if you have completely failed.[/quote]
There’s a lot wrong with this post and although I find there little to gain from arguing over the Internet I’ve got to bring you up on it
I can’t remember the last time I read one of the above comments in the steroid sub-forum so might be an idea to remove the quotations.
As mentioned before in this thread the side effects you mentioned are easily mitigated, someone who has spent 10 minutes researching could tell you this
Stop speaking with such authority when you’re clearly regurgitating the same garbage you heard elsewhere [/quote]
Scimmed first few topics in steroid.
First thread: guy who takes roids and competes eats “full bag of nachos, a pizza, and a ton of other shit.”
Second thread: 46yo Guy training olympic lifting wants to get bigger, has trained for 2years. Can only train 3x week because of doms.
third thread: 28yo guy has used steroids for 2years and trained for 10years, wants more lean body mass and fix is dick.
Yeah I think I got most of it covered.
I feel like [/quote]
I admire the time and effort that must have gone into this response but its also a little sad and maybe you have too much free time on your hands.
However I cannot argue the fact that yes, some people need to sort their lives out before even considering AAS.
I stand by my remark about side effects though.
I’m offended that you picked on my particular thread since I am not lazy and have researched long and hard over the past 18 months but there are some things I feel, like the nature of my thread, that can only be advised by someone who has been in that situation. How can it be a stupid question when the majority of proposed cycles on those boards don’t even include the use of hcg? I’m asking what is the best way to keep something sterile, hardly ‘critique my cycle, I’m 5’8" 120lbs been lifting suuper hard for 11 years’.
I think there is too much of a steroid stigma-
Rightfully so might I add since some simply know not how to properly garnish the power.of PEDs.
I believe in personal preference. I believe you have ability to chose whether or not AAS fits your goal whether its appearance, strength, or a combination of both. AAS works tremendously for the committed.
Some.suggest that AAS takes out guesswork for extremely obese or frail but, I don’t think it is quite that simple.
The stigma comes in part not by personal experience but, by lobbies and agendas, and misrepresented details;
Roid Rage, describe who may had deep seated wrath long before the comprehension of anabolics. Not to mention, pre existing health issues steming from pre steroid use
Alot of ‘experts’ against anabolic steroids, already have a stern hell no against it have a biased view obviously.
Ill say this, if you’re serious about your mission in bodybuilding, by all means research the chemicals you ingest and tread with care (bloods, pcts, anchilaries, ect ). If you don’t wanna take them then that’s your prerogative.
People are so fearful of this powerful thing, I can’t even compare the amount of DWIs, Homicides, suicides, violent accidents occur while consuming alcohol and recreational drugs yet, steroids are villified.
[quote]SavagedNatiion wrote:
I think there is too much of a steroid stigma-
Rightfully so might I add since some simply know not how to properly garnish the power.of PEDs.
I believe in personal preference. I believe you have ability to chose whether or not AAS fits your goal whether its appearance, strength, or a combination of both. AAS works tremendously for the committed.
Some.suggest that AAS takes out guesswork for extremely obese or frail but, I don’t think it is quite that simple.
The stigma comes in part not by personal experience but, by lobbies and agendas, and misrepresented details;
Roid Rage, describe who may had deep seated wrath long before the comprehension of anabolics. Not to mention, pre existing health issues steming from pre steroid use
Alot of ‘experts’ against anabolic steroids, already have a stern hell no against it have a biased view obviously.
Ill say this, if you’re serious about your mission in bodybuilding, by all means research the chemicals you ingest and tread with care (bloods, pcts, anchilaries, ect ). If you don’t wanna take them then that’s your prerogative.
People are so fearful of this powerful thing, I can’t even compare the amount of DWIs, Homicides, suicides, violent accidents occur while consuming alcohol and recreational drugs yet, steroids are villified.[/quote]
indeed