Steroids: Why or Why Not?

Your point is what? I’m not arguing whether YOU have sides,
I’m saying some people do and to deny that is ridiculous and does nothing to achieve meaningful discussion, bro.

[quote]willden wrote:
This thread is the biggest circle jerk I’ve ever seen. I swear the steroid users are as bad as the media. Of course there’s never any negative effects ever of roids. Especially not by people on this forum

Fat marzouk didn’t have a blood pressure of 150/100- heart attack waiting to happen
Waylander didn’t almost LOSE his arm due to an infection WTF Is Wrong With My Arm?! - Pharma - Forums - T Nation
Walkway didn’t have a friend with a liver abcess due to steroids. He also never had any signs of gyno
Oh and for fun google “tren rage” or “deca dick” for some fun stories. Deck dick which can last a long ass time even after you stop using. Also check out some of the sides of clomid (PCT) causing people to randomly get emotional (walkway) or start crying out of nowhere even.

Please keep it REAL, obviously there are benefits but to say there’s no side effects and its all the media is a joke.[/quote]

i agree with this to some extent. Some people here really believe steroids only have benefits and no down sides for your body^^^^^^. (excuse my bad english)

[quote]willden wrote:
Your point is what? I’m not arguing whether YOU have sides,
I’m saying some people do and to deny that is ridiculous and does nothing to achieve meaningful discussion, bro.[/quote]

where did anyone say that steroids don’t have side effects?

Walkway,

You’re a bright dude with a lotta interesting stuff to say on the subject of PEDs. I particularly like your cautionary and knowledgeable approach towards mitigating the various risks associated with AAS use, since I find that the majority of people who post about gear around here tend to either downplay the long-term risks associated with its use or cut the discussion short after the obligatory AI, SERM and hCG shout-out.

Maybe the things you preach about are common knowledge on other boards, but as I don’t frequent other sites all that often, I’d be interested in hearing your take on the proper way to handle both the short and long-term effects of steroid use.

Steroids are a difficult issue to discuss because this is overall a very pro-steroid website. Steroids are obviously an enhanced pathway towards the goal of the relentless pursuit of muscle.

Relentless being inflexible to that which holds one back. Yes you should worry you if there are side effects, but it’s your responsibility to manage steroid side effects as best as possible. Realize the illegality of steroids, and yet the criminal act is easy to become desensitized to.

Bodybuilding is an option for people who are not satisfied with their bodies. Steroids are an option for people who are really not satisfied with their body’s natural capabilities. Steroids and bodybuilding mix very well.

If you are not into bulking up and getting freaky, then you should spend more time on “fitness” based forums.

Bodybuilding is the reasons steroids are popular in gyms. Steroids enhance bodybuilding.

And of course the real bodybuilders are relentless

[quote]anthropocentric wrote:
Steroids are a difficult issue to discuss because this is overall a very pro-steroid website. Steroids are obviously an enhanced pathway towards the goal of the relentless pursuit of muscle.

Relentless being inflexible to that which holds one back. Yes you should worry you if there are side effects, but it’s your responsibility to manage steroid side effects as best as possible. Realize the illegality of steroids, and yet the criminal act is easy to become desensitized to.

Bodybuilding is an option for people who are not satisfied with their bodies. Steroids are an option for people who are really not satisfied with their body’s natural capabilities. Steroids and bodybuilding mix very well.

If you are not into bulking up and getting freaky, then you should spend more time on “fitness” based forums.

Bodybuilding is the reasons steroids are popular in gyms. Steroids enhance bodybuilding.

And of course the real bodybuilders are relentless…[/quote]

God bless you

[quote]anthropocentric wrote:
Steroids are a difficult issue to discuss because this is overall a very pro-steroid website. Steroids are obviously an enhanced pathway towards the goal of the relentless pursuit of muscle.
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This site is not pro-steroid, they tolerate and accept it but hardly PRO steroids. Odd considering the obsession with "Golden Age’ BBers most natty lifters have. I get Biotest reasons for it they are a business at the end of the day.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:
Some people are bald and some people aren’t… Some IFBB pros are bald and some aren’t…
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^^exactlly… Who cares?

If you’re already prone to MPB then why would you care if you had “varying degrees of hair loss”? You already know its gonna fall out anyway.[/quote]

Well, no, this should be obvious, but a lot of guys care whether they go bald at 30 as opposed to going bald at, say 50. Can you truly not understand that or are you being obtuse on purpose?

[quote]johnman18 wrote:

[quote]LYFT-R wrote:
IMO I would not do them. I think you can get a better looking physique without any drug[/quote]
Come on now…[/quote]

Tastes differ. Many guys, and many women, don’t like that big a look.

[quote]seekonk wrote:

[quote]johnman18 wrote:

[quote]LYFT-R wrote:
IMO I would not do them. I think you can get a better looking physique without any drug[/quote]
Come on now…[/quote]

Tastes differ. Many guys, and many women, don’t like that big a look.
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yeah women these days tend to gravitate towards the pussies…

makes me scratch my head… I thought men were supposed to be big and strong?

[quote]seekonk wrote:

[quote]johnman18 wrote:

[quote]LYFT-R wrote:
IMO I would not do them. I think you can get a better looking physique without any drug[/quote]
Come on now…[/quote]

Tastes differ. Many guys, and many women, don’t like that big a look.
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Then theyre on the wrong website.

[quote]seekonk wrote:

[quote]johnman18 wrote:

[quote]LYFT-R wrote:
IMO I would not do them. I think you can get a better looking physique without any drug[/quote]
Come on now…[/quote]

Tastes differ. Many guys, and many women, don’t like that big a look.
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Bullshit, women prefer a bigger guy, there is diminishing returns on it but in general bigger guys are gawked at more, hit on more etc by women.

You don’t need steroids to look better than 90% of the population. You can probably do that within 2 years with some discipline unless you’re starting off 40% BF. Ask women who the most attractive guys are, guarantee they won’t name any bodybuilders (maybe Arnold back in the day…)

Have Jay Cutler walk into a bar and see how much women hit on him lol guessing not much

[quote]willden wrote:
You don’t need steroids to look better than 90% of the population. You can probably do that within 2 years with some discipline unless you’re starting off 40% BF. Ask women who the most attractive guys are, guarantee they won’t name any bodybuilders (maybe Arnold back in the day…)

Have Jay Cutler walk into a bar and see how much women hit on him lol guessing not much[/quote]

ok… we are talking about big guys… when I think “big”, I think of Arnold and Mentzer… when I think “fucking monster”, I think of jay, heath, Richards… etc…

looking better than 90% of the population is by no means any sort of achievement…at all

you are using ridiculous examples to support your retarded argument.

I hope for your sake the women in your town are attracted to small, weak, sniffling pussies.

I’m not even anti steroids at all I’m prob gonna run a cycle at some point. I just think your argument that if you don’t juice you’re not trying, and there being no downsides is completely retarded. You’re spouting BS and its important for anyone who’s thinking about doing it to take a lot of time and read and research their ass off instead of just jumping into test injections. You made the decision to go on TRT for life and possibly affect your ability to have kids long term, that’s a huge decision not to be taken lightly.

And If you EVER disrespect me by saying something like that again I swear to God i will hunt you down and beat your ass.


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[quote]seekonk wrote:

[quote]johnman18 wrote:

[quote]LYFT-R wrote:
IMO I would not do them. I think you can get a better looking physique without any drug[/quote]
Come on now…[/quote]

Tastes differ. Many guys, and many women, don’t like that big a cock.
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edited for truth

[quote] willden wrote:
I just think your argument that if you don’t juice you’re not trying, and there being no downsides is completely retarded.[/quote]

no one ever said this you

FUCKING.

DIPSHIT.

again, you are a fucking idiot

there has NEVER been ONE case of permanent sterility from steroids. do some fucking research holy shit kid

[quote]
And If you EVER disrespect me by saying something like that again I swear to God i will hunt you down and beat your ass. [/quote]

thank you for partially redeeming your ridiculous post

[quote]willden wrote:
I’m not even anti steroids at all I’m prob gonna run a cycle at some point. I just think your argument that if you don’t juice you’re not trying, and there being no downsides is completely retarded. You’re spouting BS and its important for anyone who’s thinking about doing it to take a lot of time and read and research their ass off instead of just jumping into test injections. You made the decision to go on TRT for life and possibly affect your ability to have kids long term, that’s a huge decision not to be taken lightly.

And If you EVER disrespect me by saying something like that again I swear to God i will hunt you down and beat your ass.[/quote]

olololololol

Think you hit the nail on the head with the “pussy” distinction.

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]seekonk wrote:

[quote]johnman18 wrote:

[quote]LYFT-R wrote:
IMO I would not do them. I think you can get a better looking physique without any drug[/quote]
Come on now…[/quote]

Tastes differ. Many guys, and many women, don’t like that big a look.
[/quote]

yeah women these days tend to gravitate towards the pussies…

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Where are these women? They haven’t found me yet!