This thread has been an invaluable source of info. I’m 49 and used to work out a lot in my 30s, but since then my body has turned to shit. I came here looking for info on how to start juicing to get it back. Thanks to you guys I now realize I’m about a lightyear away from having the slightest clue what the hell I’m doing here. I thought I was just going to stick a needle in my ass and go lift.
It’s great you all advocate this (in systematic moderation) but at the same time you’re honest about what’s involved to do it right. I realize now that I should just eat better, get my ass to the gym more and work out harder. And in the mean time, go to steroid school.
You might see me back here in a year or two. Thanks for the straight story.
steroids are for pussys. id rather bench 400lbs clean then over 5 on roids. with proper nutrion and training and dedication steroids are not neaded.
I know kids at my gym that have taken crap and there still not as strong as me and they dont know the first thing about training, learn how lift before you take roids. why take steroids if you cant do 50 pushups then come to the gym and only do db presses and curls and think your jacked becasue you got big arms.
[quote]awill53 wrote:
steroids are for pussys. id rather bench 400lbs clean then over 5 on roids. with proper nutrion and training and dedication steroids are not neaded.
I know kids at my gym that have taken crap and there still not as strong as me and they dont know the first thing about training, learn how lift before you take roids. why take steroids if you cant do 50 pushups then come to the gym and only do db presses and curls and think your jacked becasue you got big arms. [/quote]
[quote]awill53 wrote:
steroids are for pussys. id rather bench 400lbs clean then over 5 on roids. with proper nutrion and training and dedication steroids are not neaded.
I know kids at my gym that have taken crap and there still not as strong as me and they dont know the first thing about training, learn how lift before you take roids. why take steroids if you cant do 50 pushups then come to the gym and only do db presses and curls and think your jacked becasue you got big arms. [/quote]
I agree with everything said in your second paragraph, for sure.
But I don’t think steroids are for pussies. They are for those who already know how to lift, have some proper training and knowledge under their belt, and who have made the right, informed decision to take their training and body to the next level.
Some people do need steroids to get strong and jacked, and some don’t. It all just depends on your body type, genetics, lifestyle, general health and your ability to recover. For example, IMO, most ectomorphs, or those with a small frame, simply cannot get big no matter how hard they train…or, they can get bigger to a certain extent, but then there’s a limit to the size they can reach.
Steroids are just about breaking past the body’s limits and achieving faster progress, higher intensity and recovery.
[quote]KSman wrote:
awill53 wrote:
steroids are for pussys. id rather bench 400lbs clean then over 5 on roids. with proper nutrion and training and dedication steroids are not neaded.
I know kids at my gym that have taken crap and there still not as strong as me and they dont know the first thing about training, learn how lift before you take roids. why take steroids if you cant do 50 pushups then come to the gym and only do db presses and curls and think your jacked becasue you got big arms.
AWILL, when you are 49, post how you are doing.[/quote]
what the hell is that supposed to mean. when im 49 ill have no health problems from using steroids my whole life.
[quote]awill53 wrote:
steroids are for pussys. id rather bench 400lbs clean then over 5 on roids. with proper nutrion and training and dedication steroids are not neaded.
I know kids at my gym that have taken crap and there still not as strong as me and they dont know the first thing about training, learn how lift before you take roids. why take steroids if you cant do 50 pushups then come to the gym and only do db presses and curls and think your jacked becasue you got big arms. [/quote]
With a post as ignorant and cocky as this, i cant help but question if you even thought to spend any time reading this thread at all, or any of the threads on this site, matter of fact, what are you even doing in this thread if you dont want to learn. If you are gonna use AS correctly, you have to do serious research, atleast if you want to have any results that are going to last past 10 weeks. As somebody who is only 20, and nowhere near ready to use AS, even though i dont know if i want to, i enjoy this thread for the pure science of it all, it never hurt anyone to learn, i suggest you do a bit more of it youself.
Hey Guys I got a question.
I will shortly be going on my second cycle (first was a 4 week d-bol cycle @20mg a day). This time I am going on test ethanate
for 12 weeks (300mg a week) with d-bol the first 3 weeks to give it a kick start. Now I also have some clen but I am unsure should I use it during the cycle or use it seperatly on its own as a cutting cycle. I am pritty sure the latter would be the road to take but as I say I am unsure and have no experiance. Of course I will also be takeing nova during and clomid for PCT.
Cheers.
DBOL/test=mass builders … why do you wanna diet while you’re building mass? if you wanna cut look at equipoise or something to help leaning you out… i personally think clen and test is a really bad idea.
[quote]awill53 wrote:
steroids are for pussys. id rather bench 400lbs clean then over 5 on roids. with proper nutrion and training and dedication steroids are not neaded.
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Oh my.
Dude, you must be one of those individuals who have great genetics to reach those lifting goals without any sauce.
Sad to inform you, but not all of us are as genetically, physically, emotionally, and mentally as awesome as you. Shit, maybe all of us should stop taking the sauce so that people like you can always be above us!
Or are you just ranting because you’re too much of a pussy to try steroids? Hell, think about it: as awesome as you are right now without any sauce, think of how much you can lord it over EVERYONE, users or non-users alike, if you did use the stuff!
Hey Guys just wanted to let you that this thread has been a big help. I've considerd using " ABS " for a few years but could never find the info that I felt nessary to do it right. I found T-Nation when I decided it was time to make the commitment to doing it right.
A little back ground on myself. Im 27 196 Lbs 11%bf and Have been training for @12yrs. I was a wresler all through high school and weighed in at 155 to 160. I always wanted to be bigger but never cycled. I had friends that took them in high school but I steered clear because everyone I talked to just had negitive things to say.
Anyway its been a long time since then and i’ve learned to listen to the facts and the vets. So keep up the good thread and i,ll see you around.
A weight to volume conversion depends on the density of the substance. For pure water it happens to be 1ml = 1mg = 1cc.
However the density of other materials will differ, that being said if you are useing a substance which has been dissolved in water then I guess you could use that rule.
k, i was just wondering in reference to my doses, i started off with a friend, but now hes moved for a new job and i cant get tren enth no more and its hard to understand. im currently doin tren acetate one and a half ccs every 3days, and same dose of sust once a week. I get these readings off my syringes How does that sound?
1.5 cc is 1.5ml, if you know the concentration (which you absolutly should!!) in mg/ml then multiply it by 1.5 and that is the amount in mg your injecting.
Um I spoke to 1 of my friends who moved that i used to BB with just the other day. Now hes insane compared to me. Hes finished his cycle for 2-3 weeks(being natural) then gettin back on and insist that he can avoid clomid and nolvadex n that shit. Hes doin this by usin Ergo Pharm’s 6-OXO in extreme doses to keep away the estrogen. This sounds kind of akward to me what do u guys think? I know what it think but im 2 weeks behind him and wana know if its aight if i do the same thing. Any opinions and help is appreaciated thanks.
You have almost unlimited resources at your fingertips to help you make the right decision. Would be a good idea to some poking around and reevaluate your decision, rather than listen to advice from a friend who probably doesnt know what hes talking about, and got all his chemical know-how from word of mouth in a high school locker room, like I did when i was young(er) and dumb(er).