I have recently been training at a gym in Melbourne and I realized a lot of guys are squatting like this, or, they are squatting with their knees even more forward. Relatively skinny stance, relatively over-leaning back… and they are saying ‘its the way to powerlift a squat!’
Ok, so I know everyone squats differently, according to different coaches…
What do you think? Are we ‘doing it wrong’? 770 isn’t something to laugh at, but its still not up there with the 900s… I’m just sayin’.
Also: do peoples’ squats change (stance become further wider) as their numbers go up? or do their numbers go up as their stance gets wider? Of course there is cross over, but ultimately I am wondering about the first statement.
I agree with darez. its not uncommon to see a more narrow stance on a squat like that. however, when squatting like that, more of what people would call an olympic squat, guys normally put the bar higher on there shoulders so that they do lean quite as much.
close to the same style but mikhail is a high-bar squatter.
I don’t like how fast he dropped into the hole, but if people can squat like that and push heavy weight by all means who am I to critize.
I guess it depends on what you feel is your mechanical advantage to lift the most weight. Nobody is wrong in my opinion. Just lift the damn weight without hurting yourself and hope you get the 3 white lights.
[quote]SergeantQ wrote:
I don’t like how fast he dropped into the hole, but if people can squat like that and push heavy weight by all means who am I to critize.
I guess it depends on what you feel is your mechanical advantage to lift the most weight. Nobody is wrong in my opinion. Just lift the damn weight without hurting yourself and hope you get the 3 white lights.[/quote]
I’m surprised/amazed at how fast he dropped as well. That would be difficult to “spot” for him.
I’ve seen some amazing squatters drop so fast you think they’ll never come back up. It’s what works for them, and this stance appears to be working for the individual in the video.
That’s more of the type of squat the guys in the IPF tend to use. VERY deep.
Some of the IPF/USAPL judges can be really anal about what constitutes deep enough so if you hit rock bottom you leave no question on if you went deep enough.
That is, unfortunately, one of Andrew Logan’s uglier squats. He doesn’t normally fall back like that. It’s usually more like this guys style coming up:
The descent is pretty crazy. It’s a nightmare rear-spotting him.
He has the most methodical, consistent squat setup I’ve seen in person. Everything is the same from when he starts wrapping his knees until he gets the start call. A very good lifter to emulate.
[quote]BlackLabel wrote:
If someone can help me out here…
I remember a thread a while back about a teenager that broke a record in all three lifts. If I remember correctly he had a fairly narrow stance.[/quote]
Carl Yngvar Christensen - his stance isn’t narrow by any stretch of the imagination.
The problem is people’s views have become so distorted by watching videos of multiply squats which barely break parallel (if even) that they forget what a normal/traditional squat looks like. It’s not something that’s helped by everyone parroting the whole “oh you must sit miles back etc etc” crap. The reason the multiply guys can sit so far back is because they have the gear there to support them. Try it raw and you’re going arse over tit!
The problem is people’s views have become so distorted by watching videos of multiply squats which barely break parallel (if even) that they forget what a normal/traditional squat looks like. It’s not something that’s helped by everyone parroting the whole “oh you must sit miles back etc etc” crap. The reason the multiply guys can sit so far back is because they have the gear there to support them. Try it raw and you’re going arse over tit![/quote]
Good point Hanley! By the way, that kid is a beast.
I think I will move to Australia and become an Australian zitizen to get any shot of a national record, now with all these young insane lifters popping up everywhere here in Norway, better stick to -125kg class for the rest of my life with those 140kg+ lifters putting up some insane numbers.
by descending that fast, it is easier to get back up. both the stretch reflex in the muscles, and the elastity in the single ply material will help with this.
[quote]stallion wrote:
by descending that fast, it is easier to get back up. both the stretch reflex in the muscles, and the elastity in the single ply material will help with this. :)[/quote]
I get the stretch reflex, but here’s my naive question - is there a greater risk for injury? Controlled descent minimizes risk, fast descent …?
[quote]FightorFlight wrote:
I agree with darez. its not uncommon to see a more narrow stance on a squat like that. however, when squatting like that, more of what people would call an olympic squat, guys normally put the bar higher on there shoulders so that they do lean quite as much.
close to the same style but mikhail is a high-bar squatter.[/quote]
