Some Training Videos

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
I just hope this thread doesn’t die, it makes my day more shiny![/quote]

I hope this was a FireFly/Serenity reference.

If it wasn’t, watch Fire Fly and Serenity.

NOW.

DO IT.

Regards,

Robert A [/quote]

i have no idea about what you are talking about, but i’m downloading the first episode because of the sympathy and energy devoted on that message.
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It’s actually a pretty awesome show.

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
I just hope this thread doesn’t die, it makes my day more shiny![/quote]

I hope this was a FireFly/Serenity reference.

If it wasn’t, watch Fire Fly and Serenity.

NOW.

DO IT.

Regards,

Robert A [/quote]

i have no idea about what you are talking about, but i’m downloading the first episode because of the sympathy and energy devoted on that message.
[/quote]

It’s actually a pretty awesome show.[/quote]

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
I just hope this thread doesn’t die, it makes my day more shiny![/quote]

I hope this was a FireFly/Serenity reference.

If it wasn’t, watch Fire Fly and Serenity.

NOW.

DO IT.

Regards,

Robert A [/quote]

i have no idea about what you are talking about, but i’m downloading the first episode because of the sympathy and energy devoted on that message.
[/quote]

It’s actually a pretty awesome show.[/quote]
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Nice. And oh so true. Preferably all at once.

“We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.”

haha. epic show. I thought there was supposed to be a firefly mmorpg but I never kept track.

I just learned that it’s from my favorite author. Joss Whedon!

The only series i’ve ever watched and liked in my life are Buffy, Angel and Dexter(ok, Dexter is not from Joss)

I find it funny that any human with respect for themselves would watch Buffy or Angel let alone enjoy them. Never-the-less fire-fly and serenity are amazing. (It’s hard to even understand that the same person was involved with these shows)

Though Dexter is pretty awesome.

please, at least i’m not a delusional lumberjacker who think he can shatter bones with his stiff pathetic bag work.

I did this in 2-4 minutes on the heavy-bag. Which is it upside down, propped in a chair. Too low to maintain the power-line, and I can still bust a half melon sized hole into the bottom of a heavy-bag, and i’m pretty sure that’s sand.

The only thing delusional, about any of this, is anyone thinking they’d stand up to it. If I managed to connect, if I do hit, the person hit is in big trouble, even if it’s a body-shot. I am pretty confident of that.

This is a picture I took at the end of a 4 minute session that I video-taped, so yeah, I do hit hard. If that’s you in your “photos” kaiser, I don’t think a guy like you could even do that to the bottom of a heavy-bag. I sure as hell know you want to build a wall of abs under that gut if you want to take a punch that can dent in a heavy-bag or to throw one.

post a vid, prove me wrong.

^^^ This is absolutely dynamite trolling. I mean top of the trolling food chain type shit we’re witnessing. I hope everyone understands what we’re in the midst of.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
^^^ This is absolutely dynamite trolling. I mean top of the trolling food chain type shit we’re witnessing. I hope everyone understands what we’re in the midst of.[/quote]

He may be one of the awesomest trolls in years.

I don’t think the rest of this website is aware of this awesomeness, that’s the only sad part.

Honestly it is the apparent misunderstanding or mis-representation of physics that is killing me here.

IronClaws,

If a sand bag is “propped” up and you are hitting the top it is fairly easy to dent it. Hell, you can pretty much massage a dent into the top of it. Grab a bag of flower or confectioners sugar and play with it a bit and see what I mean.

This doesn’t mean you don’t hit with authority, it is just that none of your videos or posts really back up the claim that you hit with awe inspiring power.

Regards,

Robert A

So you have tried it then, to know that hitting a heavy-bag at force at the bottom when it’s propped in a corner is effortless? that’s a heavy-bag upside down, where it feels like a rock at the bottom because it’s filled with packets of compressed sand.

sitting in a corner, with absolutely no “sway” smashing a dent into compressed sand. Yeah, everyone can do that. I think that’s horse-shit.

It’s not a “sand bag” it’s a bag that’s filled with cloth that the entire bottom part doesn’t shift because it has compressed sand even when it’s upside down, unless hit with force.

when I get my new-heavy-bag I’ll show you dents in the bottom when it’s hanging then on the stand then.

Can everyone do that?

I just leaned the heavybag in the chair the right way, the bottom filled with sand, hanging with a rope, and I smashed a dent into the bottom part when it was compressed with sand. So i’ll get a picture/video of that, will that lend any weight to my claims.

or is it easy to smash a huge dent into the bottom of a heavy-bag, when it’s at the bottom, because it’s propped in a chair against the wall?

[quote]IronClaws wrote:
So you have tried it then, to know that hitting a heavy-bag at force at the bottom when it’s propped in a corner is effortless? that’s a heavy-bag upside down, where it feels like a rock at the bottom because it’s filled with packets of compressed sand.

sitting in a corner, with absolutely no “sway” smashing a dent into compressed sand. Yeah, everyone can do that. I think that’s horse-shit.

It’s not a “sand bag” it’s a bag that’s filled with cloth that the entire bottom part doesn’t shift because it has compressed sand even when it’s upside down, unless hit with force.

when I get my new-heavy-bag I’ll show you dents in the bottom when it’s hanging then on the stand then.

Can everyone do that?

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Bro I can knock bullets out of the air… with my dick.

Once you’ve cock-shocked a .45, denting a sandbag on your mother’s couch doesn’t sound like much.

Stop being a smart-ass and reply to that question.

is it easy to dent the bottom of a heavy-bag, packed with dense sand, when it’s at the bottom. because it’s propped in a chair?

[quote]IronClaws wrote:
So you have tried it then, to know that hitting a heavy-bag at force at the bottom when it’s propped in a corner is effortless? that’s a heavy-bag upside down, where it feels like a rock at the bottom because it’s filled with packets of compressed sand.
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Yes, yes I have. Assuming we are talking about flipping a bag over and hitting the “bottom” that is now the de-facto “top”. This is not a unique experience. We are all aware of the fact the bottom of the bag is harder and denser because whatever it is filled with settles. The deal is that when you flip it over the same process that made the “formerly the bottom” part of the bag denser is at work to make it less dense.

Maybe I am not tracking your set up, but the “sway” of a hanging bag lets it sort of “roll with your punches more”. By pinning it up in a corner where it can no longer sway it is easier to dent it, not harder. Incidently, I mentioned this when I said that if you tend to push with your punches you could be murder if your pinned a guy in a corner. Well, you pinned the bag in a corner.

You wrote sand, so I wrote sand. Any material that will settle will do this.

That sort of depends on the construction of the bag. Some are easier to “dent” than others.

I think you will be doing yourself a service by hanging the bag higher so that the majority of your blows land on the middle third of the bags length.

I am not even questioning how hard you hit. I am pointing out that it is intellectually dishonest to accept what you are giving us as proof of hitting hard. Can you understand the difference? If I claimed to run a 4 minute mile and posted picks of my running shoes and a stop watch as “proof” it would not mean that I couldn’t (I cannot by the way. Running a 4 minute mile is well out of my lane. I do not think I have ever moved that fast without machinery.), it would just be that the photo would not constitute “proof”. Same thing here. You could have made the dent with “bone shattering” power, or without it. Just by hitting a bag set up the way you describe.

As for the bag; Try this experiment. Turn it around so you are working on the side opposite your crater. Prop it up so the cratered end is up and the taped end is down. Now kneed, tap, and massage the material and try to push a hole in it. Feel free to pick the bag up and shake it to help the settling. It should be pretty easy to make a “dent” in it. You are giving the material that was packed by gravity every reason to settle away from your force. Next up, let the bag fall on the ground. Stomp on the center a few times with your foot. Again, you should see the beginnings of a dent in the surface. Roll to the side. Now see just how light you can stomp and push to still make a dent.

Now, if you crater the bottom of the bag, with punches, while it is hanging, in 2 minutes time (I am just re-stating your parameters by the way. I am not challenging you.)that may be a good sign that you can crack. Then again it may just be the bag. I have hit some bags that loved to deform, and others that did not. Doesn’t mean I can or cannot hit with amazing force. (Can’t by the way. I have met and trained with some tremendous punchers and kickers. I can sort of hit “hard enough” and I have taught people to hit harder than they could before. I am pretty good at helping most everyone “punch there weight”, but I would never self identify as being a tremendous puncher).

Regards,

Robert A

[quote]IronClaws wrote:
Stop being a smart-ass and reply to that question.

is it easy to dent the bottom of a heavy-bag, packed with dense sand, when it’s at the bottom. because it’s propped in a chair?
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If it’s in a chair propped upside-down, is it still considered to be “at the bottom”?

No it’s not.

Lumberjacker Rufus wouldn’t approve this guy.

Nah white-flash. I am talking about flipping it back so it’s at the bottom. I can do that as well.

[quote]IronClaws wrote:
Stop being a smart-ass and reply to that question.

is it easy to dent the bottom of a heavy-bag, packed with dense sand, when it’s at the bottom. because it’s propped in a chair?
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You’re fucking right it is. I slap my dick on that thing and believe it or not, there’s an imprint on the couch… but not on the bag.

Yea, I’m that fucking good.

I bet you would leave my nose worse than the skinny muay thai guy i fought in my last fight, who surely can’t lumberjack like you.