[quote]IronClaws wrote:
So you have tried it then, to know that hitting a heavy-bag at force at the bottom when it’s propped in a corner is effortless? that’s a heavy-bag upside down, where it feels like a rock at the bottom because it’s filled with packets of compressed sand.
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Yes, yes I have. Assuming we are talking about flipping a bag over and hitting the “bottom” that is now the de-facto “top”. This is not a unique experience. We are all aware of the fact the bottom of the bag is harder and denser because whatever it is filled with settles. The deal is that when you flip it over the same process that made the “formerly the bottom” part of the bag denser is at work to make it less dense.
Maybe I am not tracking your set up, but the “sway” of a hanging bag lets it sort of “roll with your punches more”. By pinning it up in a corner where it can no longer sway it is easier to dent it, not harder. Incidently, I mentioned this when I said that if you tend to push with your punches you could be murder if your pinned a guy in a corner. Well, you pinned the bag in a corner.
You wrote sand, so I wrote sand. Any material that will settle will do this.
That sort of depends on the construction of the bag. Some are easier to “dent” than others.
I think you will be doing yourself a service by hanging the bag higher so that the majority of your blows land on the middle third of the bags length.
I am not even questioning how hard you hit. I am pointing out that it is intellectually dishonest to accept what you are giving us as proof of hitting hard. Can you understand the difference? If I claimed to run a 4 minute mile and posted picks of my running shoes and a stop watch as “proof” it would not mean that I couldn’t (I cannot by the way. Running a 4 minute mile is well out of my lane. I do not think I have ever moved that fast without machinery.), it would just be that the photo would not constitute “proof”. Same thing here. You could have made the dent with “bone shattering” power, or without it. Just by hitting a bag set up the way you describe.
As for the bag; Try this experiment. Turn it around so you are working on the side opposite your crater. Prop it up so the cratered end is up and the taped end is down. Now kneed, tap, and massage the material and try to push a hole in it. Feel free to pick the bag up and shake it to help the settling. It should be pretty easy to make a “dent” in it. You are giving the material that was packed by gravity every reason to settle away from your force. Next up, let the bag fall on the ground. Stomp on the center a few times with your foot. Again, you should see the beginnings of a dent in the surface. Roll to the side. Now see just how light you can stomp and push to still make a dent.
Now, if you crater the bottom of the bag, with punches, while it is hanging, in 2 minutes time (I am just re-stating your parameters by the way. I am not challenging you.)that may be a good sign that you can crack. Then again it may just be the bag. I have hit some bags that loved to deform, and others that did not. Doesn’t mean I can or cannot hit with amazing force. (Can’t by the way. I have met and trained with some tremendous punchers and kickers. I can sort of hit “hard enough” and I have taught people to hit harder than they could before. I am pretty good at helping most everyone “punch there weight”, but I would never self identify as being a tremendous puncher).
Regards,
Robert A