Have you guys seen this bar yet? Looks pretty convenient for band and chain attachment.
http://store.sorinex.com/Sorinex_Six_Shooter_Bar_45lb_p/soss-1.htm
It doesn’t seem like the plates would sit against the inside collars of the bar properly.
Looks a little gimmicky to me, especially at that price. It’s not like it’s hard to attach bands or chains to a regular bar.
I’ve noticed if you hang chains that close, they tend to hit the rack. I would not want this b/c for that very reason.
I only use one band set up at a time. Rotating bands is a pain in the ass and attaching the band lower = less tension at the top and bottom.
I squat in a cage so I can use catch bars. I don’t want / need rock climbing equipment for safety.
I thought it looked pretty neat!
This is one of the dumbest ideas I’ve ever seen. It’s so easy to attach chains and bands to a bar.
As for chains, we use some light nylon rope and loop the chains through the nylon loop, just hanging them on it really. We put the chains more to the outside and it works just fine.
[quote]Synthetickiller wrote:
I’ve noticed if you hang chains that close, they tend to hit the rack. I would not want this b/c for that very reason.
I only use one band set up at a time. Rotating bands is a pain in the ass and attaching the band lower = less tension at the top and bottom.
I squat in a cage so I can use catch bars. I don’t want / need rock climbing equipment for safety.[/quote]
Using bands without a monolift is a huge pain in the ass. I’m sure you’re not getting the amount of tension you would be able to with the monolift in a cage. You really need some dumbells or a wood block to take up some band stretch, allowing more tension at the top.
The tension should be about WTF! tension once you get it right.
I’m not saying you’re doing it wrong, it’s just I’ve seen guys use a cage before and their tension is usually under what they could be getting. Beleive me, using a blue and green and taking it out of a cage sucks balls. I’ve done it. this is why I bought a monolift, hahahaha!
[quote]tom63 wrote:
Synthetickiller wrote:
I’ve noticed if you hang chains that close, they tend to hit the rack. I would not want this b/c for that very reason.
I only use one band set up at a time. Rotating bands is a pain in the ass and attaching the band lower = less tension at the top and bottom.
I squat in a cage so I can use catch bars. I don’t want / need rock climbing equipment for safety.
Using bands without a monolift is a huge pain in the ass. I’m sure you’re not getting the amount of tension you would be able to with the monolift in a cage. You really need some dumbells or a wood block to take up some band stretch, allowing more tension at the top.
The tension should be about WTF! tension once you get it right.
I’m not saying you’re doing it wrong, it’s just I’ve seen guys use a cage before and their tension is usually under what they could be getting. Beleive me, using a blue and green and taking it out of a cage sucks balls. I’ve done it. this is why I bought a monolift, hahahaha!
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This is the rack I squat in. Feel free to call up Dave Tate and explain to him that his rack does not allow for proper band set up. There’s many ways to set up band tension. I’m not talking about what is best in terms of monolift vs cage for band tension. Where is this coming from?
I’m saying that using rock climbing equipment isn’t necessary. Thats why people squat in cages. I don’t have spotters. I lift alone. I can’t afford to not have some safety mechanism in place. The bar doesn’t provide anything in terms of safety that spotters or a rack could do. I’d like to see someone dumb 600 or 700 lbs w/ the rock climbing equipment and see if that holds up. I’m not staking my life on it. Maybe it will work, but I think thats a gimmic
What is your opinion of the bar? You never commented on it.
[quote]Synthetickiller wrote:
tom63 wrote:
Synthetickiller wrote:
I’ve noticed if you hang chains that close, they tend to hit the rack. I would not want this b/c for that very reason.
I only use one band set up at a time. Rotating bands is a pain in the ass and attaching the band lower = less tension at the top and bottom.
I squat in a cage so I can use catch bars. I don’t want / need rock climbing equipment for safety.
Using bands without a monolift is a huge pain in the ass. I’m sure you’re not getting the amount of tension you would be able to with the monolift in a cage. You really need some dumbells or a wood block to take up some band stretch, allowing more tension at the top.
The tension should be about WTF! tension once you get it right.
I’m not saying you’re doing it wrong, it’s just I’ve seen guys use a cage before and their tension is usually under what they could be getting. Beleive me, using a blue and green and taking it out of a cage sucks balls. I’ve done it. this is why I bought a monolift, hahahaha!
This is the rack I squat in. Feel free to call up Dave Tate and explain to him that his rack does not allow for proper band set up. There’s many ways to set up band tension. I’m not talking about what is best in terms of monolift vs cage for band tension. Where is this coming from?
I’m saying that using rock climbing equipment isn’t necessary. Thats why people squat in cages. I don’t have spotters. I lift alone. I can’t afford to not have some safety mechanism in place. The bar doesn’t provide anything in terms of safety that spotters or a rack could do. I’d like to see someone dumb 600 or 700 lbs w/ the rock climbing equipment and see if that holds up. I’m not staking my life on it. Maybe it will work, but I think thats a gimmic
What is your opinion of the bar? You never commented on it.
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I work for Dave, hahahaha! I post on his website, mostly in rehab. You’ll be fine with that rack . The band pegs will allow proper tension. Most power racks don’t and you really need to choke the bands a bit to get tension right at the top and bottom. I’ve seen guys just pull the bands through without dumbells or a wood block to take up some band slack.
You’re fine with the band pegs. That’s what they’re made for.
As for the monolift, it’s a ton easier and a lot safer than even the rack with band pegs. You can set up chains to catch at the bottom, which will take the weight at the bottom. I know catch racks do this, butt he monolift allows you to take the weight straight vertical as opposed to an angle. Setup is tons easier.
If you check earlier I did comment on the bar. It’s a dumb idea and to expensive and complicated when you can do without. We hang chains from a cord close to the end of the bar. We have a WPO 55 pound bar that will hold 1200+ pounds. the bar in the video doesn’t look near as sturdy.
For the money spent on this silly idea you can get my squat bar which will most likley last forever.
Remember, it’s lifting heavy stuff, it’s not rocket science.
My comments earlier were just meant to be advice btw. I so so many guys screw this up. Dave and Jim were the guys that taught me. I’ve had 2 seminars at my office from Elite and might have another in the future.
You’re fine with your set up.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
My comments earlier were just meant to be advice btw. I so so many guys screw this up. Dave and Jim were the guys that taught me. I’ve had 2 seminars at my office from Elite and might have another in the future.
You’re fine with your set up.[/quote]
Ah, I didn’t know where you’re coming from. I wasn’t trying to get confrontational, just didn’t know what your point was. lol.
I don’t see the need for this bar. Then again, if you build it, they will buy it.
[quote]Synthetickiller wrote:
tom63 wrote:
My comments earlier were just meant to be advice btw. I so so many guys screw this up. Dave and Jim were the guys that taught me. I’ve had 2 seminars at my office from Elite and might have another in the future.
You’re fine with your set up.
Ah, I didn’t know where you’re coming from. I wasn’t trying to get confrontational, just didn’t know what your point was. lol.
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No worries, I just like to make sure people get the most out of their training and do it safely.
[quote]Traps59 wrote:
Have you guys seen this bar yet? Looks pretty convenient for band and chain attachment.
http://store.sorinex.com/Sorinex_Six_Shooter_Bar_45lb_p/soss-1.htm[/quote]
after watching the video on their site, it looks like a cool idea to me, especially if you wanted to use it as a self spotting type of bar for squats and even bench. sorinex makes good shit, dont sleep
Should there be zero tension at the bottm or should the bands be tight enough that you still have a little tension left?
Examples:
This one seems to slack alot at the bottom.
This one has less slack at the bottom so I’m assuming there’s not a 100% deload of the band tension. My setup is more similar to this one.
[quote]robo1 wrote:
http://store.sorinex.com/Sorinex_Six_Shooter_Bar_45lb_p/soss-1.htm
after watching the video on their site, it looks like a cool idea to me, especially if you wanted to use it as a self spotting type of bar for squats and even bench. sorinex makes good shit, dont sleep[/quote]
Yea, I’ll have to admit, Sorinex does make some pretty innovative and high quality equipment.
The idea seems cool but for the price, I’ll pass. Plus, I’m still saving up to get me a Texas Squat Bar.
There should be a whole load of tension at the bottom and WTF tension at the top. A pair of blue bands adds app. 200 at the top. You should have app 100 extra pounds at the bottom.
I forget the app. loads of each, but you should feel a lot of tension from a pair of green bands. Especially when you’ve never used them before.
[quote]Traps59 wrote:
Should there be zero tension at the bottm or should the bands be tight enough that you still have a little tension left?
Examples:
This one seems to slack alot at the bottom.
This one has less slack at the bottom so I’m assuming there’s not a 100% deload of the band tension. My setup is more similar to this one.
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The second guy has it right. the first guy has it wrong. He should have that band choked more.
Did you catch how they setup the self spotting for the squat? I need something like that as I workout in the only place where I live with a GHR, butthere is never anyone to spot me on squats. Sorry to hijack,I have just been trying to figure out a system to “spot” while I squat heavy weights.
[quote]geoffsherman wrote:
Did you catch how they setup the self spotting for the squat? I need something like that as I workout in the only place where I live with a GHR, butthere is never anyone to spot me on squats. Sorry to hijack,I have just been trying to figure out a system to “spot” while I squat heavy weights. [/quote]
If the rack has a center bar, get two lengths of chain and some carabiners. If you can’t get it, set it down on the chains. we do this with the monolift.