I think most peoples problem is setting goals that are to low
for instance every day or two there is some one posting new threads about how they want to bulk to 170 or 180 or the guys who put a 300lb bench as thier life time goal
however I never see people who set real hard goals that arent busting ass to get them but people who set low goals usualy half ass them
guys who want to bulk to 300 spend hundreds of hours reading about it and thousands of hours lifting and eating guys who want to be 180 ask other people to give them diets and make workout programs for them
yeah the 180lb guy is setting a reasonable goal but who wants to be average gains who wants to be average strength or size setting a hard goal means aknoledging that your going to have to work harder than the others and that is what makes great bodybuilders and powerlifters
Dr.n3wb
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Agreed. I hope you didn’t think reasonable = low or average.
Low or average goals are the opposite. They are attainable, but unreasonable.
A reasonable goal to me is optimal/near optimal gains over a given time period.
Low goals are unreasonable to me.
They defy logic.
It is also unreasonable however to think I will gain in 1 year what other (hard working) veterans have gained in 3-5 years.
[quote]tajam wrote:
I would be interested in hearing about your experiences with Evo Sport. Anything you can tell us? What about Inno Sport?
Thanks[/quote]
I guess I’m more Evo than Inno. At the end of the day, I believe elite speed is all about being able to harness huge amounts of force at extreme joint angles, and then being able to do so very quickly. I don’t have any firsthand contact with Schroeder or anything like that, but I guess after seeing FoT video I got sucked in and became a believer. I really like his plyometric progression and I like his philosophies concerning extended isometric holds at your weakest point in your ROM, Inno would call this the CJC.
Inno-Sport and the AREG principals help me when I do plyo’s because after every couple of sets I will calculate % drop-off by re-testing a vertical or a standing broad jump or whatever correlates. Inno-Sport’s Oscillatory-Isometric I like as well for developing muscular “stiffness” at the extreme joint angles. I DON’T agree with Inno-Sport’s philosophy of training different parts of the strength curve in different training blocks: I’m straight DeFranco (or I guess he didn’t invent it so we will say I’m straight Russian/Westside/Conjugate Method) when it comes to that - I try to bring up all my strength qualities simultaneously. Call it DUR - MAG - RATE. Call it Max Str. - Str. Spd. - Spd. Str. - Spd. Endurance. Fuck, make up your own names. Just understand it. I will say that as a tight end, I find the MAG oriented stuff most useful. Was it Siff in Supertraining that said max strength exercises will heighten the force production curve, but max power exercises will broaden it? So the power-oriented exercises would have more impact with regards to rate of force development.
I just sort of pluck things from here and there that I like and tailor them to my training, and the results I get with them dictate whether or not they become a staple. I focus on being able to absorb and then subsequently deploy huge amounts of force with my posterior chain, then I make it “explosive”, i.e. I shorten the time window. That being said, I have encountered very little that absolutely DID NOT WORK. Effort in = Results out.
N3wb and New2 - I think both of you are essentially hitting on the same thing, just playing both ends from the middle: Regardless of difficulty of goals the key is never being satisfied and constantly re-evaluating them… Take yesterday I saw a poster in a steroid thread talk about how he hit a new PR one-arm rowing a 170lb DB for 10 reps. Last week I PR’ed with 150lb DB for 7… Guess what? New goal. I don’t care if he was sauced out of his ears and I’m not. I’m going to keep pulling 'til I get it. Then maybe I’ll shift focus to pull-ups for awhile. Whatever. I’m just never satisfied.
[quote]T Affliction G wrote:
N3wb and New2 - I think both of you are essentially hitting on the same thing, just playing both ends from the middle: Regardless of difficulty of goals the key is never being satisfied and constantly re-evaluating them… Take yesterday I saw a poster in a steroid thread talk about how he hit a new PR one-arm rowing a 170lb DB for 10 reps. Last week I PR’ed with 150lb DB for 7… Guess what? New goal. I don’t care if he was sauced out of his ears and I’m not. I’m going to keep pulling 'til I get it. Then maybe I’ll shift focus to pull-ups for awhile. Whatever. I’m just never satisfied.[/quote]
I agree. I think we are on the same page.
By the way, speaking of goals, nice freakin’ work man. Good job and good motivation for a new guy.
Being a relative newcomer to AAS, I have been less than dazzled by the results. Don’t get me wrong- good sauce makes training and life in general a little more interesting. But in my experierce thus far, anabolics are not the magic potions that some make them out to be. The good and the bad of AAS is, just as with most drugs, an index of pop culture hyperbole.
[quote]T Affliction G wrote:
Superdad - Lockport Township High School
Won the state championship in 2003, never played football before that; I was a lifelong soccer player.
I made all-state but because I had only played one year of ball, and because I was playing offensive line at 220lbs., I didn’t get any DI offers. I had some DI-AA scholarship offers and below, some Ivy League opportunities, but I chose to walk-on at Notre Dame because I had my heart set on DI (hence, heavily drug tested). Switched to tight end and I was first in line for a scholarship when Coach Willingham was still at Notre Dame, but when he was fired and Coach Weis came in, he didn’t honor it. Played some special teams, that’s it.
I transferred as a scholarship player to Eastern Illinois this semester with two years of eligibility left.
I’m getting those numbers from the annual Rudy’s Power Meet where Lockport competes with JCA, Providence Catholic, and Bolingbrook.[/quote]
T Affliction G,
Good to see a young local guy posting on this forum. (went to Thornwood HS in SoHo and always watched Porters kick the shit out of my brother and his teamates on friday nights, currently work in aurora and compete in the APF so I know of Rudy very well) I kind of was brought up with T-Nation when it was testosterone.net and still long for the good ol’ days so to speak. The reason I don’t post as much as I used to is basically for the same reasons you stated. A great line I remeber to remeber in this case… Excuses are like assholes, everybody’s got 'em! Especially those who look for the easy way out. Keep up the hard work and good luck at EIU. I’ll have my eye on 86 this ye