Shut-Up About Your Abs!

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
btw, I’m 47 and currently 204 at ~8% bf (my profile from July '07 - 196 @ 6.1%, like the way you said it though)

Would put me back up around 230lbs if I were let my self go to ~14% bf again… been there(check my posts again), I prefer 200 and lean.

I think your math may be in error.

230 lbs - 230*.06 = 216.2, which is where dieting down from 230 at 14% to 8% would leave you in terms of bodyweight. You seem to be about 12 lbs of muscle shy of that. [/quote]

You try dieting down to 6% and see how much muscle you drop.

This thread is Truth.

Also, no one is looking at the 170lb guys 6 pack when he’s in the same room as a 250lb+ guy, even with a lil bit of belly.

[quote]Psicks wrote:
This thread is Truth.

Also, no one is looking at the 170lb guys 6 pack when he’s in the same room as a 250lb+ guy, even with a lil bit of belly.[/quote]

So true. Most often the 170lb 6pack guy is lookin at the 250lber during the workout to see what he does and not the other way around…

[quote]98V wrote:

You try dieting down to 6% and see how much muscle you drop.[/quote]

Why would anyone do that? That sounds like an absolutely terrible idea…

“Hey, lets starve ourselves for the sake of what the calipers say… we’ll even get weak in the process!”

[quote]98V wrote:
Professor X wrote:

You think I’ve only exceeded you max weight by 20lbs?

Yes, unless you greatly exceeded your avg gains these past months.

250lbs(255?) is 20lbs more than 230lbs… do you need a calculator or do you want to actally state what you now weigh?

From your profile - varies but usually above 250lbs

From a recent post in T-Cell… Professor X wrote: "I won’t be posting any new pics until Spring at least. The one OG posted is from spring 2007. I weighed about 255lbs there.

You’ve also stated that your High School weight was 145lbs and during your first year in college your initial goal was to hit 185lbs like your cousin… did that 80 lb gain over the last 10 years not include this first goal, or are you at 265 now?

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Guy, I picked 80lbs out of the air. That is NOT how much I have gained. I am much heavier than 250lbs. Again, you are clueless. That pic of me at 255lbs was after dropping weight (and muscle, part of which was on purpose for personal reasons) and was taken almost two full years ago.

Edit:
…and now that I think about it, how do you come to the conclusion that 150lbs to 250lbs equals 80lbs?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
98V wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Edit:
…and now that I think about it, how do you come to the conclusion that 150lbs to 250lbs equals 80lbs?

[/quote]

What?! That’s mathematical impossible!

[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
98V wrote:

You try dieting down to 6% and see how much muscle you drop.

Why would anyone do that? That sounds like an absolutely terrible idea…

“Hey, lets starve ourselves for the sake of what the calipers say… we’ll even get weak in the process!”[/quote]

Unless someone is competing, what purpose would there be walking around at 6% body fat? It would be very difficult for most people to make further gains while maintaining that level of body fat so what good is it for the person trying to get stronger and gain more muscle?

Why do so many of these guys think they could so easily gain another 20lbs…as if they had to throw the breaks on lest they gain so much muscle so quickly.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
threewhitelights wrote:
98V wrote:

You try dieting down to 6% and see how much muscle you drop.

Why would anyone do that? That sounds like an absolutely terrible idea…

“Hey, lets starve ourselves for the sake of what the calipers say… we’ll even get weak in the process!”

Unless someone is competing, what purpose would there be walking around at 6% body fat?[/quote]

Haven’t we established that it’s all about what women want?

[quote]98V wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
btw, I’m 47 and currently 204 at ~8% bf (my profile from July '07 - 196 @ 6.1%, like the way you said it though)

Would put me back up around 230lbs if I were let my self go to ~14% bf again… been there(check my posts again), I prefer 200 and lean.

I think your math may be in error.

230 lbs - 230*.06 = 216.2, which is where dieting down from 230 at 14% to 8% would leave you in terms of bodyweight. You seem to be about 12 lbs of muscle shy of that.

You try dieting down to 6% and see how much muscle you drop.[/quote]

You don’t seem like a complete tool so try to fathom for a minute what you just said and why some of us are not interested in the least in ever being at 6% which I have been after a solid gain of 40 lean pounds which put me right about where you’re sitting now. Nuthin wrong with that. It felt great seeing how I started 45 pounds lighter with much more body fat.

However I learned way late though that I still had more size hiding in there if I could pry myself away from the altar of the abs. I want that before I have to spend even more years lamenting that wasted time.

[quote]AngryVader wrote:
Professor X wrote:
threewhitelights wrote:
98V wrote:

You try dieting down to 6% and see how much muscle you drop.

Why would anyone do that? That sounds like an absolutely terrible idea…

“Hey, lets starve ourselves for the sake of what the calipers say… we’ll even get weak in the process!”

Unless someone is competing, what purpose would there be walking around at 6% body fat?

Haven’t we established that it’s all about what women want?[/quote]

put on a tank top and let the women rub on your arms before working south?!

So, the two naysayers in this thread, who supposedly are so awesome with their “clean bulk” - able to maintain 10 % BF while getting huge - why don’t either one of you have pictures of these amazing physiques, with the perfect combo of size and cuts - where are the pics?

Of course, please feel free to post some and teach me lesson.

[quote]AngryVader wrote:
Professor X wrote:
threewhitelights wrote:
98V wrote:

You try dieting down to 6% and see how much muscle you drop.

Why would anyone do that? That sounds like an absolutely terrible idea…

“Hey, lets starve ourselves for the sake of what the calipers say… we’ll even get weak in the process!”

Unless someone is competing, what purpose would there be walking around at 6% body fat?

Haven’t we established that it’s all about what women want?[/quote]

It’s funny that you mention this, Vader.

I mean, aren’t us men supposed to ask for permission or approval on every nuance of life management as grown adults!

Aren’t we supposed to guage our self-worth according to women’s reactions to everything, including how we eat, dress, lift, behave, work, screw, and so on. Don’t we also measure our self-worth based on how attractive our partner’s or fuck-buddies are.

Hold on, I’ll be back. I have to ask my women if it’s OK to take a shit that I feel coming on.

No offense to the ladies, but I stopped caring about what they find ‘attractive’ a LONG time ago, like, before finishing puberty.

Have you actually LISTENED and looked at ON PAPER what is spouted off?

Let’s look at some examples.

On marks of sensuality:

In the same conversation that I’ve heard how amazing musicians are because they are “so sensual!” I have also heard that the ability to dance well is a true sign of how good someone is in bed. Ok, fine, but HOW MANY MUSICIANS DO YOU SEE TEARING IT UP ON THE DANCE FLOOR?

I’ve not seen any. Why? Most musicians - and I know quite a few - are introverts or just keep to themselves. So, would you dismiss the wallflower because he’s not dancing? Or would you ask him what instrument he plays?

On what they find physically appealing:

I’ve heard a lot of women say they like those tendons that outline the lower most abdominals (especially when you can see a guy’s hip bone). However, I’ve also heard them say they don’t care for truly ripped abdominals.

How the fuck can you have those tendons/hip bones showing without having a 6 pack?

On subtlety:

Women like to communicate with signals. “I walked past him three times AND I giggled AND I twirled my hair AND I cracked my gum. Why won’t he ask me out?!#@$” Maybe he thinks you are lost? Why can’t you just say, “Hi, I’m _____, and if this seat isn’t reserved for a date, I wouldn’t mind if we enjoyed each other’s company.”

But they’ll curse a shy guy and speculate about his sexuality (because they get PISSED at the idea that they could be rejected) because he’s too nervous to ask them out! Funny how that works…

Bottom line: Stop pandering.

That goes for women, too, that they should not pander to men to win their approval. You cannot manipulate chemistry. It is either there, or it is not. It is why the guy who only ever dated blondes and swore he’d not go for anything else, ends up marrying a redhead and never figures out why it worked out like that. It is why the girl who’d only ever date guys tall enough to make her look like a keychain, ends up with a guy who is even shorter than her before she puts on heels.

That is the beauty of chemistry.

You should not give a shit about a laundry list of what others find attractive like it is some work order that needs to be fulfilled. You want to see what’s ON that list? Fine, but don’t take it and try to play Origami with it. It will drive you mad and it will age you, I promise.

My friend’s father passed away earlier this year. He was very dear to me, very wise and always offered great advice.

He once said that when you go to bed at night is the one time in the day when you are TRULY alone in the world. Even if you sleep with a spouse, when they are finally asleep and you are still awake, trying to fall asleep, it is just you in the company of your own conscience.

So, at that point, if you cannot be at peace with what you have done that day or have done recently, then NOBODY can bring you that peace, because you are all alone. You have to always be able to have that peace of mind, to be at ease with who you are and what you have done in life. I will never forget that advice.

[quote]SkyNett wrote:
So, the two naysayers in this thread, who supposedly are so awesome with their “clean bulk” - able to maintain 10 % BF while getting huge - why don’t either one of you have pictures of these amazing physiques, with the perfect combo of size and cuts - where are the pics?

Of course, please feel free to post some and teach me lesson. [/quote]

The people who are the quickest to critique what everyone else looks like seem to always be the last to ever put themselves out there to be judged.

On a bodybuilding website, you would think some guy walking around in perpetual contest shape at 200lbs would be proud enough to already have some pics up somewhere.

posted this in the teen section over at bb.com, just to see what sort of reaction it would get.

of course someone immediately jumped in with “you can only gain x amount of muscle a week, any more is fat”, but generally people have been complacent with the idea of real bulking.

[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:
posted this in the teen section over at bb.com, just to see what sort of reaction it would get.

of course someone immediately jumped in with “you can only gain x amount of muscle a week, any more is fat”, but generally people have been complacent with the idea of real bulking.[/quote]

Are you telling me that you just went posted that Dante quote over at bb.com?

yes. thought they could do with some reading, even if 99% won’t catch on, if it helps 1 person it’s worth it.

[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:
yes. thought they could do with some reading, even if 99% won’t catch on, if it helps 1 person it’s worth it.[/quote]

Have you ever thought that maybe it’s not a lot of fun for Skip and Dante to end up with 90 120 lb kids from BB.com coming over to intensemuscle and insulting everyone there simply because someone thought it would be fun to quote one of Dante’s posts (completely out of context) in the goddamn teen-section?

This kind of thing has been done before. On multiple boards. It doesn’t need to happen 10 times per year.

Thank you for considering the repercussions your actions may have for others before acting…

The ones who don’t care about the post won’t go through the effort of looking up which dante it is. and how is it out of context? i posted it exactly as it is posted here.

i just searched dante weightlifting
and dante bulking and his website didn’t show up on the first two pages for either. I think you’re making it more of an issue than it really is.

[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:
The ones who don’t care about the post won’t go through the effort of looking up which dante it is. and how is it out of context? i posted it exactly as it is posted here.

i just searched dante weightlifting
and dante bulking and his website didn’t show up on the first two pages for either. I think you’re making it more of an issue than it really is.[/quote]

Really? Except that we’ve had this happen before often enough. Most know that he’s “the DC guy”.

The post was for older guys who hadn’t payed their dues in their younger years…

And Dante’s regular approach is not to get people into 300 lbs lineman shape first (as was noted in that post, but people love to ignore that part).

At least quote a more appropriate post (“the fastest way to get a natural 180 lb bodybuilder to a lean 250” or something like that).

You just posted this quote there to start controversy, that’s called trolling. The same thing Slimthugger, HeadHunter, LifticusMaximus and NominalProspect are doing/did here. Nice to see that you’re just as mature as them.