Actually, I don’t think this is a problem with your rotator cuff. It sounds more like a dislocated shouler. Rotator cuff problems, or more accurately impingement and/or labral tears, are different from dislocations.
From what I’ve read, surgery for dislocations is supposed to be the only long term solution and is supposed to be very effective, whereas surgery for impingement/labral tears is more of a toss up. Go see an ortho!
[quote]barchie wrote:
Actually, I don’t think this is a problem with your rotator cuff. It sounds more like a dislocated shouler. Rotator cuff problems, or more accurately impingement and/or labral tears, are different from dislocations.
From what I’ve read, surgery for dislocations is supposed to be the only long term solution and is supposed to be very effective, whereas surgery for impingement/labral tears is more of a toss up. Go see an ortho![/quote]
I agree…i would never suggest not seeing a professional to rule out a SLAP/BANKART lesion if the shoulder is chronically unstable,then surgical intervention is the only option in some of the cases,I was just sharing my experience with my injuries to show that conventional wisdom for shoulder pain often falls flat, besides certain things have to be obvious after a while …that 2+2=4 logic doesn’t always work with injuries…if that were true Eric Cressey,Bill hartman and Mike robertson would have the easiest jobs in the world.
[quote]barchie wrote:
Actually, I don’t think this is a problem with your rotator cuff. It sounds more like a dislocated shouler. Rotator cuff problems, or more accurately impingement and/or labral tears, are different from dislocations.
From what I’ve read, surgery for dislocations is supposed to be the only long term solution and is supposed to be very effective, whereas surgery for impingement/labral tears is more of a toss up. Go see an ortho![/quote]
Yea I’m working on it. I’ve had shoulder issues since football when I was 18, but this is the first time this happened.
Either way, I’m going to my regular Dr. tomorrow, then from there probably to get an MRI or whatever they do. I can’t keep ignoring this.
Whatever you do don’t let them cut on you until after you have exhausted other therapies. I am fairly certain what you have is a problem with weak external rotators. I have had the same problem. It is really common with striking arts.
Surgery is the last resort. Like the absolute, I’ll probably never get it resort.
I know what you’re saying Sifu… I’m of the same mindset.
I agree about exhausting other options when it comes to surgery, but again, I think what kind of injury it is is important. I had impingement/labral tear surgery a few years ago, but only after years of trying all different kinds of therapies. I’m still not 100%. But, once you dislocated your shoulder, they say that it will only continue. Surgery is the best/definitive option for that problem.
Went to the Dr. He’s sending me to a physical therapy place on Monday… we’ll see exactly what the problem is.
Even he said, “Don’t do the surgery unless you absolutely have to.”
First day of Physical Therapy.
Guy said it was likely a tear in the rotator. The range of motion is off, but the joint is stable- no shifting occurs when he moved it around. It also sits where it’s supposed to naturally.
Worked on a lot of strengthening of the rotator, doing manually resisted exercises on a very short arc to work the muscles.
Feels alright now. He said it shouldn’t be too bad, maybe three weeks worth of time.
And he said it’s definitely been holding back my lifting for the last few years, especially my upper body numbers.
Word of advice… don’t ignore shit like this like I did for eight fucking years…
More manual resistance today, followed by bandwork.
They gave me one of them rubber bands… have to do four different planes of motion, 2 sets of 10, twice a day.
Hey
good luck with the shoulder,
and thanks for the update.
kmc
Another thing that can save your shoulders in combat sports is work on your evasive skills. If you are taking a lot of pounding on your arms it tears your shoulders up. So this is a good time to work on footwork and angles.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
Another thing that can save your shoulders in combat sports is work on your evasive skills. If you are taking a lot of pounding on your arms it tears your shoulders up. So this is a good time to work on footwork and angles. [/quote]
That’s what I’m doing Sifu. Being as it’s my left that’s all fucked up, I’ve been working on footwork, jabbing, and hooking off the jab. It’s really all I can right now.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Another thing that can save your shoulders in combat sports is work on your evasive skills. If you are taking a lot of pounding on your arms it tears your shoulders up. So this is a good time to work on footwork and angles.
That’s what I’m doing Sifu. Being as it’s my left that’s all fucked up, I’ve been working on footwork, jabbing, and hooking off the jab. It’s really all I can right now.[/quote]
As I posted in another thread. The ability to switch lead sides is an important one. Especially if you get an injury. Time to start working on some southpaw skills. It’s also why you need sparring partners who you can work with to develop skills. Instead of training with meatheads who only know how to have all out ego clashes.
Are there any supplements that I can take that will be effective in protecting my shoulders? I bench relatively heavy, but the shoulders hurt like crazy afterward.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Another thing that can save your shoulders in combat sports is work on your evasive skills. If you are taking a lot of pounding on your arms it tears your shoulders up. So this is a good time to work on footwork and angles.
That’s what I’m doing Sifu. Being as it’s my left that’s all fucked up, I’ve been working on footwork, jabbing, and hooking off the jab. It’s really all I can right now.
As I posted in another thread. The ability to switch lead sides is an important one. Especially if you get an injury. Time to start working on some southpaw skills. It’s also why you need sparring partners who you can work with to develop skills. Instead of training with meatheads who only know how to have all out ego clashes.[/quote]
Hahaha. I hear you.
I’m naturally a southpaw, so for me fighting right handed really fucks me up, especially the footwork… and trying to jab with my left is ridiculous.
It’s not so bad, because my left shoulder is hurt, so as long as I don’t throw the straight left I can still throw jabs and lead hooks, both of which I rely heavily on… although my straight left tends to be my money shot.
Either way, I’m trying to give the beat up body a break… only working standard bodyweight movements in with the physical therapy… I’d like to come back stronger later.
When you write are you left handed? If you are left handed do you write hook left handed or do you use a straight left hand like right handed people use?
[quote]Sifu wrote:
When you write are you left handed? If you are left handed do you write hook left handed or do you use a straight left hand like right handed people use?[/quote]
No, I’m a righty when I write. I throw righty as well, but I’m a left handed hitter in baseball, I golf lefty, and play hockey lefty.
Generally I jab, hook, and uppercut with my right, and use my left for straights, although I’m trying to get better hooking with the left… feels too far away, though, for some reason.
PT still going well. Going twice a week, dong bandwork twice a day on my own.
Moved up to machines, doing a straight-arm lat pulldown type thing, and rows… feeling good.
I think when Sept. comes I’m going to end up giving Krav Maga a shot, so I’ve gotta get this bitch as strong as I can.
sorry for bumping an old thread, but how’d things work out for you op?
[quote]BetterAthlete wrote:
sorry for bumping an old thread, but how’d things work out for you op?[/quote]
Check out the “Irish Joins the Dark Side” thread.
I’m a big asshole who ignores doctors