Shadow Pro Q&A 4.0

[quote]Lion of War wrote:
Hi, regarding cardio, how much do you think should be done daily for the last 4 weeks? So you dont loose muscle, only fat? What would you say burns more fat, treadmill or stationary bike?
Thank you my iron brother.[/quote]

This is really individual and completely depends on your condition at this point. If you are close to being show ready you don’t have to do as much but if you aren’t ready you could even be doing it everyday. I prefer standing cardio over sitting.


As requested, front and back in one.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]veniceboy wrote:
front[/quote]

Here’s what I suggest…

If you’re not doing a show and you just want to gain lean mass I would adjust the cycle as follows:
Test-E @ 600mg/week
Tren-E @ 400mg/week
EQ @ 700mg/week
20mg nolvadex everyday
Caber (only if needed) - at these dosages you are probably fine without it.

No need for Proviron or extreme anti estrogen use if you aren’t competing. For a lean mass phase one anti-e is good enough and it doesn’t seem like you are holding a lot of water or have a tendency to.
You’re fairly lean so size should definitely be the priority if you want to compete in bodybuilding in the future.

GH is always good to add to any cycle too![/quote]

i want to give you a short feedback:
since i dropped aromasin and raloxifene and changed to 20mg nolva per day, life is much better :). means: i feel better. cant explain exactly what i mean, but overall feeling is better. my digestion is better aswell. also you said i should increase test-e from 500mg to 600mg which was a good idea i believe to give me a little boost. EQ at 700mg makes eating a lot easier. im not sure why i avoided this compound for years…but i will use it again in my next cycles. no more deca. and tren e at 400mg is cool aswell - i never had crazy sides on tren, even on 500mg… no temper problems and i sleep like a baby. but for sure i need caber, im sensitive. do you agree with 0.5mg 2x per week?

but one thing “sucks”… since i changed my cycle like you told me, my libido is crazy as fuck. not good :wink:
thank you very much man. i will come up later to show my progress!

What’s your opinion on the age old high Tren low test or vice versa debate? You read alot of of guys saying that low test(250-500mg) with high Tren (750-1000mg) really helps keep side effects like insomnia, night sweats, and evn bloat from the test away. I have been intrigued by the idea because I wanna stay at a lighter bw so not to have to do a big cut to make weight. Plus I imagine Tren at a level that high would really sky rocket strength if nothing else.

Thanks for your time.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]veniceboy wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]veniceboy wrote:
front[/quote]

Here’s what I suggest…

If you’re not doing a show and you just want to gain lean mass I would adjust the cycle as follows:
Test-E @ 600mg/week
Tren-E @ 400mg/week
EQ @ 700mg/week
20mg nolvadex everyday
Caber (only if needed) - at these dosages you are probably fine without it.

No need for Proviron or extreme anti estrogen use if you aren’t competing. For a lean mass phase one anti-e is good enough and it doesn’t seem like you are holding a lot of water or have a tendency to.
You’re fairly lean so size should definitely be the priority if you want to compete in bodybuilding in the future.

GH is always good to add to any cycle too![/quote]

Wow thank you very much. I will do this and keep you posted.

What macros should i hit for my lean bulk? Im 5ft 4 and about 157 pounds. Bodyfat - i dont know, you saw
My current pics…

Training schedule:
Legs (favourite training day)
Chest/ triceps/ traps → chest is my weakest bodypart
Back (maybe my strongest bodypart)
Shoulders/ traps
Arms
Rest (cheatmeal on this day)
Rest

Would u change something?[/quote]

I can’t give you an exact macro breakdown, I don’t know enough about you and that’s not what we’re doing here.

As a general guideline you can do the following:

  • 2.5 servings Plazma intraworkout
  • indigo 30min preworkout
  • micropa to help with size and better pumps
  • majority of daily carbs should be consumed during your “workout window”
  • clean food choices, not iifym crap.[/quote]

:frowning: but what about Pop Tarts?

Thanks for your reply.

I have a few questions more:

  1. test primo and winstrol: Can I use the test cyp I have? dosage for test, primo and winstrol? for how long?

  2. How do you stack deca? Can I start with test and deca (would you add an oral?) then switch to test primo and winstrol? How long for both cycle?

Thanks for your help bro.

Hi Shadowpro, I have a question, in the article (Steroids: What Pro Bodybuilders Are Really Using) you wrote all the way at the bottom:

“Best Tip for Gaining in the Off Season
Humalog and Plazma combination: 5-10 IU 10 minutes pre-workout followed by 2-3 servings of Plazma. (Not for beginners!)”

Do you mean you can use fast acting insulin all by itself and have great gains, or do you have to combine it with hgh and a anabolic steroid?

If so, what would you combine it with to have good gains with medium dosages?

[quote]Vick wrote:
As requested, front and back in one.[/quote]

You have good leg development but upper body is lacking, especially in the chest.

I really don’t think you need Proviron and I think you can use either dbol or Anadrol (you don’t need both!).
I would probably increase the test and lower the eq a bit to make them a 1:1 ratio with the eq possibly staying a bit higher.

20mg per day of nolvadex as I suggested is plenty.

I would definitely add some extra Plazma on your upper body days because this is where you are lacking. Drop the isopure and invest in the Plazma instead, you will see a lot more benefit from it.

My guess would be that you’ve probably probably lost some muscle due to the DNP and t3 use. You look very flat in this picture and I would only use t3 when dieting for a show. By the sounds of your cycle you are looking to gain mass?

[quote]veniceboy wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]veniceboy wrote:
front[/quote]

Here’s what I suggest…

If you’re not doing a show and you just want to gain lean mass I would adjust the cycle as follows:
Test-E @ 600mg/week
Tren-E @ 400mg/week
EQ @ 700mg/week
20mg nolvadex everyday
Caber (only if needed) - at these dosages you are probably fine without it.

No need for Proviron or extreme anti estrogen use if you aren’t competing. For a lean mass phase one anti-e is good enough and it doesn’t seem like you are holding a lot of water or have a tendency to.
You’re fairly lean so size should definitely be the priority if you want to compete in bodybuilding in the future.

GH is always good to add to any cycle too![/quote]

i want to give you a short feedback:
since i dropped aromasin and raloxifene and changed to 20mg nolva per day, life is much better :). means: i feel better. cant explain exactly what i mean, but overall feeling is better. my digestion is better aswell. also you said i should increase test-e from 500mg to 600mg which was a good idea i believe to give me a little boost. EQ at 700mg makes eating a lot easier. im not sure why i avoided this compound for years…but i will use it again in my next cycles. no more deca. and tren e at 400mg is cool aswell - i never had crazy sides on tren, even on 500mg… no temper problems and i sleep like a baby. but for sure i need caber, im sensitive. do you agree with 0.5mg 2x per week?

but one thing “sucks”… since i changed my cycle like you told me, my libido is crazy as fuck. not good :wink:
thank you very much man. i will come up later to show my progress![/quote]

.5mg of caber 2x/week is enough, only if you actually need it. If there’s no bad side effects (as you just mentioned) then the caber can act as a double edged sword. You want prolactin at a normal level, not low or high so you might want to consider prolactin tests to be sure. If it’s in range I wouldn’t mess with caber at all.

Happy to hear everything is working well… Maybe this old Shadow Pro guy knows a thing or two. Haha.

[quote]198er wrote:
What’s your opinion on the age old high Tren low test or vice versa debate? You read alot of of guys saying that low test(250-500mg) with high Tren (750-1000mg) really helps keep side effects like insomnia, night sweats, and evn bloat from the test away. I have been intrigued by the idea because I wanna stay at a lighter bw so not to have to do a big cut to make weight. Plus I imagine Tren at a level that high would really sky rocket strength if nothing else.

Thanks for your time.[/quote]

I’ve tried both ways and I understand the logic behind it but honestly the best results I’ve got are from a 1:1 ratio. It gives you the best benefits in terms of size and strength.

I didn’t see anything significant in terms of less side effects when doing high tren/low test. If anything I was just a bigger asshole. Some people swear by it so there’s no harm in trying to see if it works for you.

[quote]Reed wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]veniceboy wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]veniceboy wrote:
front[/quote]

Here’s what I suggest…

If you’re not doing a show and you just want to gain lean mass I would adjust the cycle as follows:
Test-E @ 600mg/week
Tren-E @ 400mg/week
EQ @ 700mg/week
20mg nolvadex everyday
Caber (only if needed) - at these dosages you are probably fine without it.

No need for Proviron or extreme anti estrogen use if you aren’t competing. For a lean mass phase one anti-e is good enough and it doesn’t seem like you are holding a lot of water or have a tendency to.
You’re fairly lean so size should definitely be the priority if you want to compete in bodybuilding in the future.

GH is always good to add to any cycle too![/quote]

Wow thank you very much. I will do this and keep you posted.

What macros should i hit for my lean bulk? Im 5ft 4 and about 157 pounds. Bodyfat - i dont know, you saw
My current pics…

Training schedule:
Legs (favourite training day)
Chest/ triceps/ traps → chest is my weakest bodypart
Back (maybe my strongest bodypart)
Shoulders/ traps
Arms
Rest (cheatmeal on this day)
Rest

Would u change something?[/quote]

I can’t give you an exact macro breakdown, I don’t know enough about you and that’s not what we’re doing here.

As a general guideline you can do the following:

  • 2.5 servings Plazma intraworkout
  • indigo 30min preworkout
  • micropa to help with size and better pumps
  • majority of daily carbs should be consumed during your “workout window”
  • clean food choices, not iifym crap.[/quote]

:frowning: but what about Pop Tarts?
[/quote]

Those are the most anabolic steroids out there… Don’t come here and tell everyone my secrets Reed!

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[quote]french_muscl75 wrote:
Thanks for your reply.

I have a few questions more:

  1. test primo and winstrol: Can I use the test cyp I have? dosage for test, primo and winstrol? for how long?

  2. How do you stack deca? Can I start with test and deca (would you add an oral?) then switch to test primo and winstrol? How long for both cycle?

Thanks for your help bro.
[/quote]

  1. Depends on your past cycle history and main goal. If you’re trying to stay lean and hard a moderate cycle like this might be appropriate:
    12 weeks
    test-c 600mg/week
    primo 400mg/week
    Week 1-8
    Oral winstrol 50mg/day

  2. I’m not a big fan of deca as you’ve probably read already. Pick one cycle or the other, they are both for completely opposite goals. If you pick the 2nd one I would use eq and not deca. If you’re going on a mass cycle then dbol might be something you can add. This really depends on your goals and your cycle history.

[quote]RedVex wrote:
Hi Shadowpro, I have a question, in the article (Steroids: What Pro Bodybuilders Are Really Using) you wrote all the way at the bottom:

“Best Tip for Gaining in the Off Season
Humalog and Plazma combination: 5-10 IU 10 minutes pre-workout followed by 2-3 servings of Plazma. (Not for beginners!)”

Do you mean you can use fast acting insulin all by itself and have great gains, or do you have to combine it with hgh and a anabolic steroid?

If so, what would you combine it with to have good gains with medium dosages?[/quote]

That’s a good question.

You can use fast acting insulin by itself but for most people I wouldn’t recommend it unless you’re very lean to begin with and have very good insulin sensitivity. Even then you will run a risk of gaining fat. It’s much more effective when used with GH and some type of anabolic.

A basic idea would be… Testosterone, GH and insulin.

I can’t recommend dosages without knowing more about you. If you want something more specific post a picture and some more background info so I’ll be able to help you out.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]RedVex wrote:
Hi Shadowpro, I have a question, in the article (Steroids: What Pro Bodybuilders Are Really Using) you wrote all the way at the bottom:

“Best Tip for Gaining in the Off Season
Humalog and Plazma combination: 5-10 IU 10 minutes pre-workout followed by 2-3 servings of Plazma. (Not for beginners!)”

Do you mean you can use fast acting insulin all by itself and have great gains, or do you have to combine it with hgh and a anabolic steroid?

If so, what would you combine it with to have good gains with medium dosages?[/quote]

That’s a good question.

You can use fast acting insulin by itself but for most people I wouldn’t recommend it unless you’re very lean to begin with and have very good insulin sensitivity. Even then you will run a risk of gaining fat. It’s much more effective when used with GH and some type of anabolic.

A basic idea would be… Testosterone, GH and insulin.

I can’t recommend dosages without knowing more about you. If you want something more specific post a picture and some more background info so I’ll be able to help you out.
[/quote]

First of all, Im out of shape now, and wouldent think about doing insulin now, but I am working on the fat %, and would like to do when I get into shape.

Hight 183cm
Weight 116kg

Done several cycles with different compounds, been lifting for 13 years.
Work out usually 5-6 days a week, 3-4 lifting days, 2 days cardio. But that changes over the year into more lifting focus, where i lift 5 days a week and only do light cardio at end of workout.

Is Dbol or Anavar only cycle as a bridge worth running ? Like for 4-6 weeks before the next cycle?
And without running test. Will oral only cycle affect my libido?

Thanks .

Hey Shadow Pro!!

Hope all is good, first would like to thank u for sharing all the tips, info and secrets. Speaking for myself i re-evaluated many aspects in training, gear and i look better and feel much better!!!

My new Questions:
1- Why Slin is linked with Kidney Failure? Is it the water retention!!
2- Why it is important to supplement magnisuiim and Potassium while on Slin??
3- Also, What is the role of ACE inhibitors like : lisinopril with Slin?

[quote]RedVex wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]RedVex wrote:
Hi Shadowpro, I have a question, in the article (Steroids: What Pro Bodybuilders Are Really Using) you wrote all the way at the bottom:

“Best Tip for Gaining in the Off Season
Humalog and Plazma combination: 5-10 IU 10 minutes pre-workout followed by 2-3 servings of Plazma. (Not for beginners!)”

Do you mean you can use fast acting insulin all by itself and have great gains, or do you have to combine it with hgh and a anabolic steroid?

If so, what would you combine it with to have good gains with medium dosages?[/quote]

That’s a good question.

You can use fast acting insulin by itself but for most people I wouldn’t recommend it unless you’re very lean to begin with and have very good insulin sensitivity. Even then you will run a risk of gaining fat. It’s much more effective when used with GH and some type of anabolic.

A basic idea would be… Testosterone, GH and insulin.

I can’t recommend dosages without knowing more about you. If you want something more specific post a picture and some more background info so I’ll be able to help you out.
[/quote]

First of all, Im out of shape now, and wouldent think about doing insulin now, but I am working on the fat %, and would like to do when I get into shape.

Hight 183cm
Weight 116kg

Done several cycles with different compounds, been lifting for 13 years.
Work out usually 5-6 days a week, 3-4 lifting days, 2 days cardio. But that changes over the year into more lifting focus, where i lift 5 days a week and only do light cardio at end of workout.[/quote]

Concentrate solely on losing the body fat at this point, add in some more cardio and good supplements.

Until you get to about 10% bf I wouldn’t even consider using insulin or any steroid for that matter. Give yourself at least 12 weeks of hard dieting and then reconsider it.

[quote]doom44 wrote:
Is Dbol or Anavar only cycle as a bridge worth running ? Like for 4-6 weeks before the next cycle?
And without running test. Will oral only cycle affect my libido?

Thanks .[/quote]

I don’t particularly like these type of bridges. It won’t allow your liver to recover well and it’s not really giving your system a break. If anything a low dose of test.

The question about libido is individual…some people it will, some it won’t.

[quote]bishlawy wrote:
Hey Shadow Pro!!

Hope all is good, first would like to thank u for sharing all the tips, info and secrets. Speaking for myself i re-evaluated many aspects in training, gear and i look better and feel much better!!!

My new Questions:
1- Why Slin is linked with Kidney Failure? Is it the water retention!!
2- Why it is important to supplement magnisuiim and Potassium while on Slin??
3- Also, What is the role of ACE inhibitors like : lisinopril with Slin?[/quote]

  1. Water retention, blood pressure and general stress on all body systems.
  2. When you use Slin your body not only absorbs nutrition more but it also uses extra vitamins and minerals and this can cause a deficiency so this is why extra supplementation is needed. Obviously there’s much deeper science here but I’m not about to write a book about it.
  3. Never used it before. The idea behind it is that lisinopril helps improve insulin sensitivity. I can’t give you personal feedback because I haven’t tried it but according to studies it does work.

If I were doing a muscle gaining with 750 test e, and 400 tren e for 15 weeks, would I lose a lot of muscle if I immediately did a cutting cycle of 500 test e and 80mg oral winny/ day for 4 weeks. Or would it be wiser in terms of maintaining muscle to wait 8 weeks or so after my gaining cycle is over to start the cutting one?