Shadow Pro Q&A 4.0

Dear Shadow Pro,

First, I have to say, that’s very great and helpful what are you doing. I hope you keep the good work up.

Here is my question:

After 2 Test E cycles I started to cruise year around with Test E about 2 years ago at 500 / week. I have got no problems on the outside (acne, hair) and the inside (blood profile).

But the last few weeks I am thinking about to change the ester, because I am not sure if something like receptor satiety (?) exists and it’s very difficult for me to be objectively. But I have the feeling that the last 6 months weren’t as good as they might have been.

It would be great, If you could share your knowledge about this and if I should change the ester for a longer period.

I was thinking about omnadren / sustanon mixture E3D or T prop EOD.

Thanks for your help!

Hi Shadow. What protocol you suggest if I’m still plan to have child I’m future? 10 weeks on 10 weeks off? Is long cycle (12-24 weeks ) will affect it?

Simple question:

We all have this lethargic lazy days. How can you motivate yourself day for
Day to give your best and absolve a good workout even
If youre not in the mood to go outside your house…?

Hi, i found this very interesting study on cardio and loss of lean body mass,wanted to share with you.

What did the researchers do?
The researchers managed to track down five competitive female bodybuilders who agreed to have their body fat measured at 12-weeks out, 6-weeks out and just prior to a competition. They also agreed to provide details about their training routines during this period. The researchers also recruited five female athletes to serve as controls. They took the body fat measurements when the subjects were post-absorptive, were normally hydrated and had not exercised for 36 hours.

The researchers were keen to make sure that they produced reliable results. So they used a very sophisticated way of measuring body fat and lean body mass. They used an under-water weighing process called hydrodensitometry, where the volume of inspired air was measured by oxygen dilution and the densities of fat mass and lean mass were assumed to be constants across all subjects. They noted that the potential error in their measurements from this process was just 0.4% body fat.


What happened?
Cardio routine
The bodybuilders detailed that at 12-weeks out they spent 5.8 ± 1.1 days per week performing aerobic training for 344 ± 110 minutes (5 hours 44 minutes ± 1 hour 50 minutes). They also reported that approximately 4 weeks before the competition, they increased their time performing aerobic exercise to 590 ± 139 minutes (9 hours 50 minutes ± 2 hours 19 minutes). So in the second 6-week phase, the bodybuilders were performing almost twice as much cardio as in the first 6-week phase.

Weight training routine
The bodybuilders detailed that throughout the 12-week period, they performed weight-training 5.0 ± 1.2 days per week and for 342 ± 164 minutes (6 hours 4 minutes ± 2 hours 24 minutes). They used 2-3 sets of 10-12RM loads for each body part in addition to a single set of 6RM. Four of the five bodybuilders noted that they lost either some repetitions or some load over the 12 weeks on some or all exercises.

Dietary practices
The researchers did not ask for the bodybuilders to complete diet diaries but four of the five bodybuilders stated that they did not reduce their energy intake at all over the 12 weeks, which was estimated as 6.41 ± 0.80 MJ per day (1,531 ± 194kcal per day).

Body fat percentage at 12-weeks out
The researchers noted that at the outset of the study, the body fat percentages of the bodybuilders and athletic female control subjects were very similar (17.8% vs. 17.4%). They also noted that these figures were similar to those reported in a large-scale study of female body fat percentages by Withers (1987), who found that body fat in 182 athletic females averaged 18.5%.

This is very interesting, as it suggests that when female bodybuilders are not preparing for competition, they are walking around at normal, athletic female body fat percentages.

Body fat percentage changes
The researchers found that the bodybuilders reduced their body fat percentage by an average of 5.6% over the 12-week period. Unsurprisingly, an average of 68% (range: 66 â?? 70%) of this loss occurred in the second 6-week period, when the bodybuilders were performing twice as much cardio. The following chart shows the reductions in body fat percentage for each bodybuilder:

Reductions in body fat

Lean body mass changes
The researchers found that the bodybuilders reduced their lean body mass by an average of 1.34kg (3lbs) or 2.4% over the 12-week period. Despite the much greater loss of fat mass in the second 6-weeks than in the first 6-weeks (and double the amount of cardio), the amount of lean mass in both 6-week periods was almost identical, with an average of 51% (range: 38 â?? 61%) of the overall lean mass lost occurring in the second 6-week block. The following chart shows the reductions in lean body mass for each bodybuilder:

Reductions in lean body mass


What did the researchers conclude?
The researchers concluded that bodybuilders at 12-weeks out displayed a similar level of body fat to other athletic females. They also concluded that the 12-week contest preparation period led to a 5.75kg (13lbs) reduction in body mass, made up of a 1.34kg (3lbs) reduction in lean mass and a 4.41kg (10lbs) reduction in fat mass. This means that the weight loss was 76.7% fat and 23.3% lean tissue, despite the relatively lean status at the outset.

The researchers also concluded that the weight and fat lost were greater in the second 6-week period than in the first. This was probably because in the second 6-week period, the bodybuilders performed an average of 9 hours 50 minutes cardio per week while they â??onlyâ?? performed an average of 5 hours 44 minutes per week in the first 6-week period.

What else is interesting?
It was also interesting that despite the much greater level of cardio and fat loss achieved in the second 6-week period, there were no differences in the amount of lean body mass lost in the two 6-week periods. It would appear from this small sample size that cardio of 1 hour 40 minutes, 6 days per week does not cause more muscle loss in female bodybuilders than half that amount.

If cardio was so effective at stripping off muscle mass, would we not have seen a much bigger difference between the first and second 6-week blocks? The following chart shows that while there was a huge difference between the amount of fat lost between blocks, there was a similar amount of lean mass lost in each block:

Hey ShawdowPro!! In the previous forum you helped me with info to get my system restarted from a hard shut down by utilizing HCG. I’m feeling so much better in my libido department and would like to get prepped for another cycle before long.

I’m only curious, I still have a irritable sensation in my left nipple area. It’s never in my right nipple but just my left… There’s no lump are hard spots but it’s strange to me that after all this time since my last cycle (Nov2014) that I would still have this irritation? Everything seems to be back on track and all my bloods look normal but I still have the irritable sensTion in my left nipple. Any ideas or how to fix this!?

[quote]EJGillie123 wrote:
If I were doing a muscle gaining with 750 test e, and 400 tren e for 15 weeks, would I lose a lot of muscle if I immediately did a cutting cycle of 500 test e and 80mg oral winny/ day for 4 weeks. Or would it be wiser in terms of maintaining muscle to wait 8 weeks or so after my gaining cycle is over to start the cutting one?[/quote]

Generally I would recommend to go off after 15 weeks and do blood tests. Recover your system… That’s a long cycle. The only exception would be if you were before a show and needed to extend it a few weeks.
What you’re suggesting doesn’t sound like a precontest cycle so I would just go off the cycle and do the best you can to keep your gains. When you decide to cut then you start fresh and recovered so you get the most benefit out of the cycle.

[quote]Dopamin wrote:
Dear Shadow Pro,

First, I have to say, that’s very great and helpful what are you doing. I hope you keep the good work up.

Here is my question:

After 2 Test E cycles I started to cruise year around with Test E about 2 years ago at 500 / week. I have got no problems on the outside (acne, hair) and the inside (blood profile).

But the last few weeks I am thinking about to change the ester, because I am not sure if something like receptor satiety (?) exists and it’s very difficult for me to be objectively. But I have the feeling that the last 6 months weren’t as good as they might have been.

It would be great, If you could share your knowledge about this and if I should change the ester for a longer period.

I was thinking about omnadren / sustanon mixture E3D or T prop EOD.

Thanks for your help!
[/quote]

That’s not a bad idea to change esters every few months. It’s not going to make a huge difference but it can probably give your body a little push. I wouldn’t use prop unless you want to do injections daily but the other mix sounds better.

[quote]doom44 wrote:
Hi Shadow. What protocol you suggest if I’m still plan to have child I’m future? 10 weeks on 10 weeks off? Is long cycle (12-24 weeks ) will affect it?[/quote]

This is very individual. Best advise I can give you here is to be smart from your first cycle… Meaning to use the HCG, antiestrogens and AlphaMale during & post cycle. Make sure to always do a proper pct which might include clomid. The dosage of these would depend on the length and dosage of your cycle.

Shorter cycles would be more advisable if kids are an option. 8-10 weeks on followed by 8-10 weeks off and have blood tests done before starting up again.

Do anything you can think of to keep your normal production as much as possible during and after the cycle.

[quote]veniceboy wrote:
Simple question:

We all have this lethargic lazy days. How can you motivate yourself day for
Day to give your best and absolve a good workout even
If youre not in the mood to go outside your house…?[/quote]

I’ve never had motivation problems, I always have and always will enjoy my training. The hours I spend in the gym each day are always the best 3 hours of my day. Good session or bad it always clears my head and is satisfying and gives me a sense of accomplishment.

I would highly suggest trying Brain Candy. I usually use this preworkout and it gives you a great mental/physical boost… It will definitely make you want to get out of the house.

[quote]Lion of War wrote:
Hi, i found this very interesting study on cardio and loss of lean body mass,wanted to share with you.

What did the researchers do?
The researchers managed to track down five competitive female bodybuilders who agreed to have their body fat measured at 12-weeks out, 6-weeks out and just prior to a competition. They also agreed to provide details about their training routines during this period. The researchers also recruited five female athletes to serve as controls. They took the body fat measurements when the subjects were post-absorptive, were normally hydrated and had not exercised for 36 hours.

The researchers were keen to make sure that they produced reliable results. So they used a very sophisticated way of measuring body fat and lean body mass. They used an under-water weighing process called hydrodensitometry, where the volume of inspired air was measured by oxygen dilution and the densities of fat mass and lean mass were assumed to be constants across all subjects. They noted that the potential error in their measurements from this process was just 0.4% body fat.


What happened?
Cardio routine
The bodybuilders detailed that at 12-weeks out they spent 5.8 �± 1.1 days per week performing aerobic training for 344 �± 110 minutes (5 hours 44 minutes �± 1 hour 50 minutes). They also reported that approximately 4 weeks before the competition, they increased their time performing aerobic exercise to 590 �± 139 minutes (9 hours 50 minutes �± 2 hours 19 minutes). So in the second 6-week phase, the bodybuilders were performing almost twice as much cardio as in the first 6-week phase.

Weight training routine
The bodybuilders detailed that throughout the 12-week period, they performed weight-training 5.0 �± 1.2 days per week and for 342 �± 164 minutes (6 hours 4 minutes �± 2 hours 24 minutes). They used 2-3 sets of 10-12RM loads for each body part in addition to a single set of 6RM. Four of the five bodybuilders noted that they lost either some repetitions or some load over the 12 weeks on some or all exercises.

Dietary practices
The researchers did not ask for the bodybuilders to complete diet diaries but four of the five bodybuilders stated that they did not reduce their energy intake at all over the 12 weeks, which was estimated as 6.41 �± 0.80 MJ per day (1,531 �± 194kcal per day).

Body fat percentage at 12-weeks out
The researchers noted that at the outset of the study, the body fat percentages of the bodybuilders and athletic female control subjects were very similar (17.8% vs. 17.4%). They also noted that these figures were similar to those reported in a large-scale study of female body fat percentages by Withers (1987), who found that body fat in 182 athletic females averaged 18.5%.

This is very interesting, as it suggests that when female bodybuilders are not preparing for competition, they are walking around at normal, athletic female body fat percentages.

Body fat percentage changes
The researchers found that the bodybuilders reduced their body fat percentage by an average of 5.6% over the 12-week period. Unsurprisingly, an average of 68% (range: 66 â?? 70%) of this loss occurred in the second 6-week period, when the bodybuilders were performing twice as much cardio. The following chart shows the reductions in body fat percentage for each bodybuilder:

Reductions in body fat

Lean body mass changes
The researchers found that the bodybuilders reduced their lean body mass by an average of 1.34kg (3lbs) or 2.4% over the 12-week period. Despite the much greater loss of fat mass in the second 6-weeks than in the first 6-weeks (and double the amount of cardio), the amount of lean mass in both 6-week periods was almost identical, with an average of 51% (range: 38 â?? 61%) of the overall lean mass lost occurring in the second 6-week block. The following chart shows the reductions in lean body mass for each bodybuilder:

Reductions in lean body mass


What did the researchers conclude?
The researchers concluded that bodybuilders at 12-weeks out displayed a similar level of body fat to other athletic females. They also concluded that the 12-week contest preparation period led to a 5.75kg (13lbs) reduction in body mass, made up of a 1.34kg (3lbs) reduction in lean mass and a 4.41kg (10lbs) reduction in fat mass. This means that the weight loss was 76.7% fat and 23.3% lean tissue, despite the relatively lean status at the outset.

The researchers also concluded that the weight and fat lost were greater in the second 6-week period than in the first. This was probably because in the second 6-week period, the bodybuilders performed an average of 9 hours 50 minutes cardio per week while they â??onlyâ?? performed an average of 5 hours 44 minutes per week in the first 6-week period.
[/quote]

Interesting study, thanks for sharing.

There’s a few issues here: Theres no mention of the actual steroid cycle which would greatly effect any muscle loss. The study talks about the amount of cardio, general training and diet but misses this very important part. It’s hard to come to a conclusion without knowing what they were using.

As a very general thought…as long as your diet and drug use are smart then cardio won’t burn as much muscle as people tend to think. Obviously when you are losing a lot of weight some muscle will be lost but as long as you give the muscle a reason to stay (ie. training, nutrition & drugs) the body will try to retain it as much as possible regardless of the amount of cardio you are doing.

You don’t need to look far because there are a lot of high level bodybuilders that still do 2 hours of cardio a day and they’re still able to bring a decent package to stage. Cardio isn’t the devil it just a tool that needs to be used properly alongside the drugs, training and diet. One of the most beautiful things in bodybuilding is you need to master so many different aspects and bring them all together in a perfect combination. When you can figure this out then you will see how even doing 2 hours of cardio a day cannot hurt you. Obviously there’s many ways to skin a cat but this is definitely one of them.

[quote]Maxnutrition89 wrote:
Hey ShawdowPro!! In the previous forum you helped me with info to get my system restarted from a hard shut down by utilizing HCG. I’m feeling so much better in my libido department and would like to get prepped for another cycle before long.

I’m only curious, I still have a irritable sensation in my left nipple area. It’s never in my right nipple but just my left… There’s no lump are hard spots but it’s strange to me that after all this time since my last cycle (Nov2014) that I would still have this irritation? Everything seems to be back on track and all my bloods look normal but I still have the irritable sensTion in my left nipple. Any ideas or how to fix this!?[/quote]

You’re very welcome and thanks for the feedback, I’m happy to hear that my advice helped.

It’s hard for me to understand what’s happening there if you claim your blood tests are coming back normal. I would double check with your doctor and see what’s going on, it might be another issue going on that’s not juice related. Usually blood tests will reveal where the problem is coming from but if everything is okay then the doc might want to do further investigations.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]doom44 wrote:
Hi Shadow. What protocol you suggest if I’m still plan to have child I’m future? 10 weeks on 10 weeks off? Is long cycle (12-24 weeks ) will affect it?[/quote]

This is very individual. Best advise I can give you here is to be smart from your first cycle… Meaning to use the HCG, antiestrogens and AlphaMale during & post cycle. Make sure to always do a proper pct which might include clomid. The dosage of these would depend on the length and dosage of your cycle.

Shorter cycles would be more advisable if kids are an option. 8-10 weeks on followed by 8-10 weeks off and have blood tests done before starting up again.

Do anything you can think of to keep your normal production as much as possible during and after the cycle.[/quote]

Thanks for the reply. So it would be 8-10 weeks on followed by 4 weeks PCT and 4-6 weeks total off?

Hi Shadow

  1. I’am on a fat loss diet rigtig now (Not using any juice right now)
    2400kcal
    270g Protein
    200g Carb
    55g Fat
    Pretty basic, but it works amazing for me. I’am not having any Off-days, but i can feel my body needs a bit of a timeout soon. So how should I eat on the OFF-days you think.??

  2. After this diet i want try out cycle with Test & EQ. I never tried the more heavy’r componds. I read around that EQ has to be run for quite long time, to get the most out of it. So do you think a cycle like this is all right:

1-18 500mg Sust EW Do you think Test E is better here.??
1-18 600mg EQ EW
1-18 10mg Nolvadex ED (Uppend if needed)(Got Letro on hand)
1-18 250iu HCG E4D
So do you think a cycle like this is all right to me, dose, to long etc.??
I only tried to cycle’s, one with 100mg Test P EOD, and one with 100mg Test P & Mast P EOD, both 10 weeks.

  1. How many weeks do think it’s okay to run 50-70mg of Anavar.??

  2. How do deal with family dinner’s. Do you go to them every time or how often do you??

Thank you so much for your time.!!

Hi shadow…I’m seriously considering Blast and crusing. I’ve done a fair few cycles and have to admit i get fed up of taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back all the time. I want to get into bodybuilding competitively hence why i was considering blast and cruise option.

Any advice at all that would help would be hugely appreciated. Permanent shut down is my main concern. i have a doctor who is a very good friend to check my bloods etc. I already have a son so not looking at having another or at least for a good while anyway. what sort of cruise dose would you suggest? i understand it would depend person to person but as a rule of thumb…blasts would be something like 1g test 700mg tren with dbol or oxys thrown in etc.

final question is could you diet on a cruise dose or is this a bad idea and asking for muscle loss? any help at all would be greatly appreciated. trying to weigh up my options.

[quote]doom44 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]doom44 wrote:
Hi Shadow. What protocol you suggest if I’m still plan to have child I’m future? 10 weeks on 10 weeks off? Is long cycle (12-24 weeks ) will affect it?[/quote]

This is very individual. Best advise I can give you here is to be smart from your first cycle… Meaning to use the HCG, antiestrogens and AlphaMale during & post cycle. Make sure to always do a proper pct which might include clomid. The dosage of these would depend on the length and dosage of your cycle.

Shorter cycles would be more advisable if kids are an option. 8-10 weeks on followed by 8-10 weeks off and have blood tests done before starting up again.

Do anything you can think of to keep your normal production as much as possible during and after the cycle.[/quote]

Thanks for the reply. So it would be 8-10 weeks on followed by 4 weeks PCT and 4-6 weeks total off?
[/quote]

Yes, this will be good.

[quote]Rottmeyer wrote:
Hi Shadow

  1. I’am on a fat loss diet rigtig now (Not using any juice right now)
    2400kcal
    270g Protein
    200g Carb
    55g Fat
    Pretty basic, but it works amazing for me. I’am not having any Off-days, but i can feel my body needs a bit of a timeout soon. So how should I eat on the OFF-days you think.??

  2. After this diet i want try out cycle with Test & EQ. I never tried the more heavy’r componds. I read around that EQ has to be run for quite long time, to get the most out of it. So do you think a cycle like this is all right:

1-18 500mg Sust EW Do you think Test E is better here.??
1-18 600mg EQ EW
1-18 10mg Nolvadex ED (Uppend if needed)(Got Letro on hand)
1-18 250iu HCG E4D
So do you think a cycle like this is all right to me, dose, to long etc.??
I only tried to cycle’s, one with 100mg Test P EOD, and one with 100mg Test P & Mast P EOD, both 10 weeks.

  1. How many weeks do think it’s okay to run 50-70mg of Anavar.??

  2. How do deal with family dinner’s. Do you go to them every time or how often do you??

Thank you so much for your time.!!
[/quote]

  1. Hire a nutrition coach to answer this, this isn’t a diet forum.

  2. Dosages look okay. 18 weeks is pushing it I would suggest nothing more than 16. If you want me to be specific if this cycle is appropriate for you I’ll need to see a picture to see who I’m dealing with.

  3. 6-8 weeks

  4. If I’m dieting I just bring my food with me wherever I go.

[quote]ginston wrote:
Hi shadow…I’m seriously considering Blast and crusing. I’ve done a fair few cycles and have to admit i get fed up of taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back all the time. I want to get into bodybuilding competitively hence why i was considering blast and cruise option.

Any advice at all that would help would be hugely appreciated. Permanent shut down is my main concern. i have a doctor who is a very good friend to check my bloods etc. I already have a son so not looking at having another or at least for a good while anyway. what sort of cruise dose would you suggest? i understand it would depend person to person but as a rule of thumb…blasts would be something like 1g test 700mg tren with dbol or oxys thrown in etc.

final question is could you diet on a cruise dose or is this a bad idea and asking for muscle loss? any help at all would be greatly appreciated. trying to weigh up my options. [/quote]

If you want to blast and cruise I would suggest staying on HCG for the majority of the time while you’re on. Also, use AlphaMale during the whole period of the cruise. You can diet on a cruise but it’s very individual and depends on how harsh the diets going to be. If it’s just to stay lean during the off season (9-10%) then it’s no problem but if you’re trying to get to a very low bodyfat it’s probably not the best idea.

hey shadow,

its me again, hope you’re doing great.

Ive recovred and im fine again but i still wanted to share and ask your opinion about few things.

I’ve start my new cycle which is basing 500mg TEST e a week for 16 weeks

i got all my gear arrived but no dbol, i could run dbol at the beginning of week 3 or i was thinking to run dbol at like week 10/12 to week 16?

i dont want to abuse and jump on 60mg hoping for a miracle since i think my training and nutrition is on top. I was about running it at the week 3 till week 9 or week 10/12 till 16 at a very moderate dose, beginning at 10mg a day and possible going up to 30/40mg a day.

I spoke with people with a lot experience and they said that its a great drug, but i read mostly on the internet people pushing it down and its all water and stuff like that, i guess its some from people who are lazy, run cycle which last 8 weeks and hope for 40lbs lean tissue…

So i what would make more sense?
Week 3-9 starting at 10mg ed and going up OR Week 10-16? Ive got an advice to run week 12-18 at very low dose at the beginning and run it for 2 weeks when im not jabbing test anymore and after the last dbol day start PCT immiadetely? opinions?

Topic Accutane
im prone to acne, last time when i didnt use nolva or AI my E2 was over the top, the normal scale was written as 40-60, mine was 260 plus… so i think it was big thing for acne, but since i did a accutane cycle 5 years ago, i took it for a month in the PCT and my skin was clear again.

What i started doing now, i’m taking 40mg for 7 days in a row and then i will be taking like 20mg e3d, does that make sense? i got loads of it but i dont wanna waste it use it ED since of its damage to liver if used together with dbol.

I will get with my nutrition/training later on for a check and yeah, like always
thanks for the great job!

regards

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]veniceboy wrote:
Simple question:

We all have this lethargic lazy days. How can you motivate yourself day for
Day to give your best and absolve a good workout even
If youre not in the mood to go outside your house…?[/quote]

I’ve never had motivation problems, I always have and always will enjoy my training. The hours I spend in the gym each day are always the best 3 hours of my day. Good session or bad it always clears my head and is satisfying and gives me a sense of accomplishment.

I would highly suggest trying Brain Candy. I usually use this preworkout and it gives you a great mental/physical boost… It will definitely make you want to get out of the house.
[/quote]

thx for your answer. i just asked you this, because ive lost my job after 7 yrs a few days ago.
now im a bit down. but i figured out, this is a good possibilty to invest even more effort in my bodybuilding goals. lifting weights is like a therapy now. im on my way now to train with the arnold classic amateur winner 2015.

just a simple question for today:
growth and all the gear makes my hair growing so fast. how do you handle this? i shave them, but it takes me hours and i usually need help from my girlfriend, lol. do you guys wax them?