[quote]tacelazar wrote:
Hi shadow.
Curent I’am on 600mg sustanon Weekly
In 10 days i plan add Tren E. 400mg /Week
My gooal is to lean bulk and keep BF 10-12%
1.Is ration test / tren 1:1 or low test high tren better then 2:1 test tren for my goals , stay lean and dry.
2. Nolva 10-20 ED or 0.5/1mg Arimidex EOD for water retention and dryer look on cyle.
3. Can i pin sustanon and tren 2x weekly or e3d ?
[/quote]
1)what do u think about it?please advice me if i should change or add something else
2)if there is any supplements that u recommend me to use during the cycle
3)how should i go with my diet through the cycle
4)i am planning to add HGH also,what do u think about the doses ?
thank u so much in advance
Hey Shadow.
Amazing replies, I have spent the last 4 days reading as much as possible from the Shadow Pro threads.
I wanted to ask you a few questions-
What compounds you would recommend a newbie during his first 3 cycles in addition to test E/Test Cyp, when the goal is to gain maximum size and strength?
At what point would you recommend adding more advanced juices like tren into the stack?
What look do you prefer? The old school Arnold/Frank Zane look which is more about symmetry, or the look of today’s bodybuilders which is more about size?
Is there anything you miss about being normal in size, and not a huge, jacked bodybuilder?
If you could go back in time, would you do anything differently in your first 3 years of juicing?
I don’t think I will ever use Deca after reading so many posts about people losing their libido completely after using it. Although there are a lot of people who have not faced this problem, is there anyway to ensure that i don’t get “Deca-Dick”?
Thanks in advance!
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]g3n3s wrote:
Hello!
First post here, i was reading the forum for a long time, after getting a little more knowledge, decide to register… and sorry bad english! 
Shadow, im 23 yo, planing to enter BC.
Already made 2 years ago, protocol with cypio/trembo/hemogenin but in low doses, with low knowledge, and after a PCT, fortunatly not had any collaterals.
Now, im planning yo enter in BC, after 2 years “clean” i will enter in blast using:
1-12 Enantathe (500mg - w)
1-12 Boldenona (equipoise) (600mg - w)
6-12 Trembo Ace (500mg - w)
x -x Anavar (Oxandrolone) (XXmg - w) ??? ← already have, so, my first doubt is, use at the beggining or at the end? Or both?
After that, planning to cruise with 200mg - w cypio.
My other doubts are:
-HCG, can i use it with no stop… during all blast and all cruise? 250UI every 4 days is my plan. Correct? (I want to use HCG just to avoid ache at my balls… im fearing about that… but im fear of E2 go up because os HCG)
-Oxandrolone, as i said before, can i use it, and in the beggining or the last blast weeks?
-How do you recommend the division of blast, which days of week to pin with enan, equi and trembo?
-Cruise: what is the best, 1x a week 200mg or should i divide it in 2 or 3 times a week? Can i do it SQ, as i red its better than IM for cruise?
-Aromasin, im planning to use 0.25mg 2x week in blast, should i use until first weeks after start cruise or i stop imediatly after sop blast?
Aprecciate your help!!
More infos: 80Kg, 1.80M, 10% BF, 6y trainning
Using with the blast: ZMA, Chromium Picolinate, multivit and minerals, B Complex, Whey Protein, Whazy Maize, Omega-3 Fish Oil
[/quote]
You can use the anavar from week 1-8 @ 50mg/day.
Use HCG at 250iu 2x/week and 20mg of nolvadex each day (increase dose if needed) and do throughout both the blast and cruise.
For the long esters just do injections twice a week and for the short esters do daily injections.
200mg once a week is fine for the cruise. Just do it IM like usual.
I prefer nolvadex but if you want to use Aromasin it’s up to you. I use the nolvadex throughout my whole cycle and pct.
I would suggest adding Plazma and indigo to your supplement list, it will help you tremendously.[/quote]
Thanks you for the informations. I will use HCG, starting at week 2, correct?
Another question is, if i need or you recommend to use masteron for the blast i wrote up there… maybe because to try keep the E2 in a good number.
What do you do to try keep the E2 in a “normal” range, and how do you know how much you need to go down with IAs doses when going from blast and entering cruise?
Thanks again!
[quote]miras wrote:
hi shadow
this is my first post here,i am planning to compete in a physique competition by the end of November,so i have about 5 months left and i am planning to do 16 weeks cycle
week 1-14 : Test E 500mg/week
week 14-16 :Test E 200mg/week
week 1-8 : Primobolan Depot 500mg/week
week 1-8 : Anavar 75 mg ED
week 9-16: Winstrol 50 mg ED
AI: arimidex
HCG injections of 250IU twice / week
PCT: 4 weeks Nolva 40/40/20/20
1)what do u think about it?please advice me if i should change or add something else
2)if there is any supplements that u recommend me to use during the cycle
3)how should i go with my diet through the cycle
4)i am planning to add HGH also,what do u think about the doses ?
thank u so much in advance[/quote]
Good luck in your show. Let me know if you have anymore questions.
[quote]hairydinkbrah wrote:
Hey Shadow.
Amazing replies, I have spent the last 4 days reading as much as possible from the Shadow Pro threads.
I wanted to ask you a few questions-
What compounds you would recommend a newbie during his first 3 cycles in addition to test E/Test Cyp, when the goal is to gain maximum size and strength?
At what point would you recommend adding more advanced juices like tren into the stack?
What look do you prefer? The old school Arnold/Frank Zane look which is more about symmetry, or the look of today’s bodybuilders which is more about size?
Is there anything you miss about being normal in size, and not a huge, jacked bodybuilder?
If you could go back in time, would you do anything differently in your first 3 years of juicing?
I don’t think I will ever use Deca after reading so many posts about people losing their libido completely after using it. Although there are a lot of people who have not faced this problem, is there anyway to ensure that i don’t get “Deca-Dick”?
Thanks in advance![/quote]
Dbol is a classic for first cycles combined with test. EQ can work as well and same for deca. Deca isn’t something I personally like but it’s good for size.
It’s really individual and goal dependent. If you’re an advanced lifter it might be something to consider in a 3rd or 4th cycle but it depends on the goal and your experience of course.
I like freaks. Today’s bodybuilders are much more impressive to me, it’s a freakshow not a modeling show. If I want to see something pretty I’ll go watch the bikini girls.
Good question. I do miss being more athletic and mobile. I used to do a lot more athletic movements and didn’t get out of breath going up the stairs. Another hard part for me is eating so much food in the offseason, I don’t think anyone really realizes the amount of clean food we need to consume to maintain this size.
I would have started using GH earlier if I could afford it.
You can’t insure it 100% but using caber and anti estrogens appropriately along with keeping the test higher than the deca you can prevent it for the most part.
[quote]g3n3s wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]g3n3s wrote:
Hello!
First post here, i was reading the forum for a long time, after getting a little more knowledge, decide to register… and sorry bad english!
Shadow, im 23 yo, planing to enter BC.
Already made 2 years ago, protocol with cypio/trembo/hemogenin but in low doses, with low knowledge, and after a PCT, fortunatly not had any collaterals.
Now, im planning yo enter in BC, after 2 years “clean” i will enter in blast using:
1-12 Enantathe (500mg - w)
1-12 Boldenona (equipoise) (600mg - w)
6-12 Trembo Ace (500mg - w)
x -x Anavar (Oxandrolone) (XXmg - w) ??? ← already have, so, my first doubt is, use at the beggining or at the end? Or both?
After that, planning to cruise with 200mg - w cypio.
My other doubts are:
-HCG, can i use it with no stop… during all blast and all cruise? 250UI every 4 days is my plan. Correct? (I want to use HCG just to avoid ache at my balls… im fearing about that… but im fear of E2 go up because os HCG)
-Oxandrolone, as i said before, can i use it, and in the beggining or the last blast weeks?
-How do you recommend the division of blast, which days of week to pin with enan, equi and trembo?
-Cruise: what is the best, 1x a week 200mg or should i divide it in 2 or 3 times a week? Can i do it SQ, as i red its better than IM for cruise?
-Aromasin, im planning to use 0.25mg 2x week in blast, should i use until first weeks after start cruise or i stop imediatly after sop blast?
Aprecciate your help!!
More infos: 80Kg, 1.80M, 10% BF, 6y trainning
Using with the blast: ZMA, Chromium Picolinate, multivit and minerals, B Complex, Whey Protein, Whazy Maize, Omega-3 Fish Oil
[/quote]
You can use the anavar from week 1-8 @ 50mg/day.
Use HCG at 250iu 2x/week and 20mg of nolvadex each day (increase dose if needed) and do throughout both the blast and cruise.
For the long esters just do injections twice a week and for the short esters do daily injections.
200mg once a week is fine for the cruise. Just do it IM like usual.
I prefer nolvadex but if you want to use Aromasin it’s up to you. I use the nolvadex throughout my whole cycle and pct.
I would suggest adding Plazma and indigo to your supplement list, it will help you tremendously.[/quote]
Thanks you for the informations. I will use HCG, starting at week 2, correct?
Another question is, if i need or you recommend to use masteron for the blast i wrote up there… maybe because to try keep the E2 in a good number.
What do you do to try keep the E2 in a “normal” range, and how do you know how much you need to go down with IAs doses when going from blast and entering cruise?
Thanks again![/quote]
Yes, start HCG at week 2. Masteron is a great drug and a mild anti estrogen but I’m not sure you actually need it for the blast because you’ll be using nolvadex but it won’t hurt you to use it if you want… It will make you harder and leaner.
In order to monitor e2 levels I am doing tests after the cycle to make sure they are fine.
Thank u for ur reply shadow
I have a few more questions:
1)what do u think about the test and the primo doses shall i make it less/higher or keep it as its?
2)i want to gain more lean mass before i start shredding for the show,do u advice me to add anything to the cycle like tren or something else ,and if u do can u plz tell me about the doses?
3)about the GH my goal is to gain more lean mass as i asked in the previous question,so shall i do the same thing ?4 iu in the morning n before bed?
4)what do u think about the IM deltoid injection ?do u recommend it ? And if yes which compound shall i inject out of my cycle?
Thanks in advance!
Hi, If you had a choice, pre comp, would you take masterone or halo with winstrol and tren ace?
Thanx , Iron brother.
Hey shadow
My current cycle:
60mg tren a daily
500mg test e weekly
700mg eq weekly
50mg proviron daily
4-6iu saizen daily
12.5mg aromasin daily
0.5mg caber e3d
60mg raloxifene daily
Im in decent shape, veins poppin like i never saw it on me.
I asked you a few weeks ago about appetite, because i had some issues.
You told me to up the eq which i did - now its much easier to eat.
Also you said it would be better to drop the aromasin and raloxifen and add 20mg nolva daily.
Im a little bit “afraid” that im holding more water then. Will the nolva help to prevent this issue a bit or should i keep taking aromasin 2 times a week (for example on my test injection days).
[quote]miras wrote:
Thank u for ur reply shadow
I have a few more questions:
1)what do u think about the test and the primo doses shall i make it less/higher or keep it as its?
2)i want to gain more lean mass before i start shredding for the show,do u advice me to add anything to the cycle like tren or something else ,and if u do can u plz tell me about the doses?
3)about the GH my goal is to gain more lean mass as i asked in the previous question,so shall i do the same thing ?4 iu in the morning n before bed?
4)what do u think about the IM deltoid injection ?do u recommend it ? And if yes which compound shall i inject out of my cycle?
Thanks in advance![/quote]
[quote]Lion of War wrote:
Hi, If you had a choice, pre comp, would you take masterone or halo with winstrol and tren ace?
Thanx , Iron brother.[/quote]
I would probably use both as they are working in very different ways. It’s hard to choose…I’ve never done a show without masteron but I have done some shows without Halo before back in the day when I didn’t have a reliable source but I still looked good.
hey shadow, now im not asking for a source im just asking when you were coming up or even now…is the source you have someone a lot of other pros use or does everyone just have there own “guy” im curious to know how similar or different it is for the average joe and you guys also has it bin the same guy all these years or does it change often ?
[quote]veniceboy wrote:
Hey shadow
My current cycle:
60mg tren a daily
500mg test e weekly
700mg eq weekly
50mg proviron daily
4-6iu saizen daily
12.5mg aromasin daily
0.5mg caber e3d
60mg raloxifene daily
Im in decent shape, veins poppin like i never saw it on me.
I asked you a few weeks ago about appetite, because i had some issues.
You told me to up the eq which i did - now its much easier to eat.
Also you said it would be better to drop the aromasin and raloxifen and add 20mg nolva daily.
Im a little bit “afraid” that im holding more water then. Will the nolva help to prevent this issue a bit or should i keep taking aromasin 2 times a week (for example on my test injection days).
[/quote]
Hi, thanks for coming back to let me know how everything is going. Happy to hear that your appetite is better now.
Could you post another current pic so I can give you a better answer. Nolvadex will definitely help with water retention (you can always increase the dose to help more). If you have the tendency to hold water or if you’re getting close to a show then keeping the Aromasin might be a good idea or mix some arimidex with the nolvadex. I would need to see a picture to tell you if I think you need it or not.
[quote]MrGear wrote:
hey shadow, now im not asking for a source im just asking when you were coming up or even now…is the source you have someone a lot of other pros use or does everyone just have there own “guy” im curious to know how similar or different it is for the average joe and you guys also has it bin the same guy all these years or does it change often ?[/quote]
It’s changing all the time, I’ve had a lot of sources over the years. The higher you get in the game and the longer you’re in it then you get to know the right people and you’re able to find more reliable sources and therefore you don’t need to change them as much (unless they go to jail, lol)
Hi, What in your opinion give better results pre comp, t3 or clenbuterol
Thanks.
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]veniceboy wrote:
Hey shadow
My current cycle:
60mg tren a daily
500mg test e weekly
700mg eq weekly
50mg proviron daily
4-6iu saizen daily
12.5mg aromasin daily
0.5mg caber e3d
60mg raloxifene daily
Im in decent shape, veins poppin like i never saw it on me.
I asked you a few weeks ago about appetite, because i had some issues.
You told me to up the eq which i did - now its much easier to eat.
Also you said it would be better to drop the aromasin and raloxifen and add 20mg nolva daily.
Im a little bit “afraid” that im holding more water then. Will the nolva help to prevent this issue a bit or should i keep taking aromasin 2 times a week (for example on my test injection days).
[/quote]
Hi, thanks for coming back to let me know how everything is going. Happy to hear that your appetite is better now.
Could you post another current pic so I can give you a better answer. Nolvadex will definitely help with water retention (you can always increase the dose to help more). If you have the tendency to hold water or if you’re getting close to a show then keeping the Aromasin might be a good idea or mix some arimidex with the nolvadex. I would need to see a picture to tell you if I think you need it or not.
[/quote]
thank you very much for your time. i will post 4 pics, pls let me know what u think. im not planning doing a show the next few months, since i need a lot more size and build more muscles. also im open for any advices to modify my cycle.
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