Just seen what Is being offered if I got all 3 compounds separatley. All 3 are 100mg per ml, this would mean 3ml jabs as apposed to 2ml in the blend. I must admit i am a little unnerved at the thought of 3ml in the shoulder!
Hey I wanna ask a question. Monday I injected one ml of Dec and sustaxyl350 by kalpa pharm. And Monday I felt superman and good no problem maybe hard to sleep little. But Thursday injection made me so sick on Friday I feel light headed and dizzy and disoriented a little and I did have chest pounding on Sat night so here it is Monday I still feel weird a little but not as bad I did on Friday migraines and almost threw up
Any advice from anyone with experience on sustanon350 and deca . Monday one ml of both and felt fine and then Thursday I felt like sick weak and woke up on Friday with migraine felt dizzy disoriented and still feeling it today alittle what should I do. I’m skipping today’s injection I would not handle again if it happened again
Dude I started my cycle of sustaxyl 350 and deca from kalpa pharm. And Monday injection of one ml of each I didn’t mix them so I took two shots on Monday one deca and the other sustanon . man I felt great and I know its real lol . so Thursday I did another one ml of ea h and man I didn’t feel good at all after two hours . woke up Friday with migraine and wanting to throw up and weak. So I feel so dizzy and disoriented and light headed. And now its Monday and I still feel a little bit of it . dude what do I need to do . I’m scared to take another shot I feel it might make the heart go boom
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
How are you doing my friend? I have some questions for you… thanks in advance!
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I am about to finish my PCT… right now I am using CLOMID (50mg twice/day) n TAMOX (20mg also twice/day)… everything is okay so far… I lost some “hardness” for sure, but I guess I have accomplished my goal of keeping 80% of my gains (mostly gains in quality, not volume)… after my last day of PCT, how long should I wait to do some blood tests?
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As I told you, I feel I kept most of my gains… but my energy levels n libido are way low if I compare with my “cycle days”… I know u can not function the same ON and OFF cycle… but since I am about to turn 40 this year, Do you think it would be better to:
Cycle 8/10 weeks - Bridge (low test dose) - Cycle 8/10 weeks
Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - Cycle 14/16 weeks
Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - TIME OFF (same as PCT) - Cycle 14/16 weeks
I know only myself have the answer, but I really appreciate your input… I am done with kids… been training for 15 solid years… not sure if I can REALLY grow more muscles on my frame… Thinking on my health I am not sure with option would be wiser.
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I am not sure if you remember, but my wife was using GH for the first time… She did it for 5 months… amazing results… but a high cost as well!! I would like to know your opinion about using TAMOX (10mg/day) to keep her gains/condition until we can afford another GH cycle… our idea would be using it for 4 months and then return to GH (arround summer time here in Brazil).
Is there anything else (besides diet of course) you would sugest besides TAMOX… Proviron, another anti-E?[/quote] -
2 weeks
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If you’re done with kids then your suggestion looks fine to me.
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With women I would use arimidex, not tamoxifin. .5mg every 2nd or 3rd day
Some women use Proviron but it’s more risky for sides. If you decide to go with Proviron do 12.5mg everyday.
[/quote]
Thank you very much for a such a quick reply… Concerning my wife, We will try your suggestion of Arimidex .5mg every 2nd day.
My case, I would like to know which of these 3 options would suit me better… in your point of view/experience:
OPTION1
Cycle 8/10 weeks - Bridge (low test dose/no PCT) - Cycle 8/10 weeks
OPTION 2
Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - Cycle 14/16 weeks
OPTION 3
Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - TIME OFF (same as PCT) - Cycle 14/16 weeks
Some articles say that a low dose of test would have much low impact on your liver than a combination of Clomiphene n Tamox… any thoughts?[/quote]
All options are good and I would probably go with option 1 if having children isn’t in the future plan. When you’re using nolva and clomid for pct the goal is to help your body restore natural production of testosterone and hormone balance again. If natural production is not a concern then you don’t have to use clomid. As you know already, I am using nolvadex during all of my cycles.
[/quote]
Thanks once again for all the help… REALLY hope u stick arround for a long time…
I will follow your advice and go with OPTION 1 then… my PCT finishes in 2 weeks… gonna wait 2 more weeks (as u oriented me) to do some blood work… if everything shows up fine, in August I will start pinning again.
One last question for now:
Should I keep HCG @250IU during the 8 weeks cycle (twice a week)… and maybe during the bridge with a low test dose increase for 500IU (also twice week)? My concern is not to avoid any shutdown… just to keep my balls arround and the wife happy!!
Hey Pro:
Appreciate all of the great help here. I posted awhile ago about a cycle and you gave me great advice. I’m eight weeks in and will update in four weeks with some pics and my impressions just to contribute to the knowledge base.
But, I have a question about bodyfat percentage. I know that the general rule of thumb is that you should be around 12% BF before cycling, which is considered lean for those aged 19-29, but I am 51 and at that age, anything less than 20% is considered lean. Does it logically follow that the rule of thumb is that you should be lean and not necessarily at 12%?
I realize this is only one aspect to consider before running a cycle and is directly related to diet - the idea being that if you can get lean then you have the discipline required to maximize the use of AAS. If you can’t get lean without them, don’t waste your money. Not to mention the aromatization issues associated with a higher bodyfat percentage. But, is 12% the magic number or is lean the key idea?
Thanks!
[quote]AndyJones1992 wrote:
Ok current pics taken. Excuse the body hair, kittens and no clue on posing ð???
Previous goals: Strength with blocky/bulky look. Fairly low bf.
Current goals: To be leaner, harder, keep growing, pick up lacking bodyparts, tighten waist.
Age: 23
Training split: 2/3 days on. 1 day off. Chest/tris, back/bis, shoulders/traps, legs(squats and deadlifts both performed on this day). Calfs every day pre main workout. abs - never.
Diet: Never counted actual nutrition intake. Just weigh and adjust according to what the mirror says. Average day (All weights raw and uncooked)
Meal 1: 140g oats. 12 egg whites. 2 yolks.
Meal 2: 80g basmati rice, 400g chicken breast, broccoli
Meal 3: 80g basmati rice, 400g chicken breast, broccoli
Meal 4: 80g basmati rice, 400g chicken breast, broccoli
Meal 5: 80g Basmati rice, 400-500g white fish, broccoli
Pre workout drink
Workout
Post workout weight gainer
Meal 6: 250g rump steak (lean as pos) 6 egg whites, 1 large sweet poatoe and broc
Sleep.
Work from meal 1 to 4 in a shop. Fairly active.
[/quote]
100mg EOD of each compound I suggested is good. The 1:1:1 ratio will give you the best combo for keeping muscle mass while leaning/hardening up, this is why I match the test and the tren. This way there’s also less chances for side effects.
Food choices look good but I would adjust the macros a bit to include plazma intraworkout and indigo pre workout to help with absorption.
[quote]AndyJones1992 wrote:
Just seen what Is being offered if I got all 3 compounds separatley. All 3 are 100mg per ml, this would mean 3ml jabs as apposed to 2ml in the blend. I must admit i am a little unnerved at the thought of 3ml in the shoulder![/quote]
I would go with glute and quad injections as 3ml is okay for these sites. Or split the dosages into 2 injections… Convenience isn’t always the best way to go!
[quote]Silvernational wrote:
Hey I wanna ask a question. Monday I injected one ml of Dec and sustaxyl350 by kalpa pharm. And Monday I felt superman and good no problem maybe hard to sleep little. But Thursday injection made me so sick on Friday I feel light headed and dizzy and disoriented a little and I did have chest pounding on Sat night so here it is Monday I still feel weird a little but not as bad I did on Friday migraines and almost threw up [/quote]
You should really go and see a doctor and see what’s up. It’s impossible to assume what’s wrong with you considering I don’t know anything about you and your history in regards to use and general health. I have never heard of this brand either so I cannot give you any feedback on quality.
[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
How are you doing my friend? I have some questions for you… thanks in advance!
-
I am about to finish my PCT… right now I am using CLOMID (50mg twice/day) n TAMOX (20mg also twice/day)… everything is okay so far… I lost some “hardness” for sure, but I guess I have accomplished my goal of keeping 80% of my gains (mostly gains in quality, not volume)… after my last day of PCT, how long should I wait to do some blood tests?
-
As I told you, I feel I kept most of my gains… but my energy levels n libido are way low if I compare with my “cycle days”… I know u can not function the same ON and OFF cycle… but since I am about to turn 40 this year, Do you think it would be better to:
Cycle 8/10 weeks - Bridge (low test dose) - Cycle 8/10 weeks
Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - Cycle 14/16 weeks
Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - TIME OFF (same as PCT) - Cycle 14/16 weeks
I know only myself have the answer, but I really appreciate your input… I am done with kids… been training for 15 solid years… not sure if I can REALLY grow more muscles on my frame… Thinking on my health I am not sure with option would be wiser.
-
I am not sure if you remember, but my wife was using GH for the first time… She did it for 5 months… amazing results… but a high cost as well!! I would like to know your opinion about using TAMOX (10mg/day) to keep her gains/condition until we can afford another GH cycle… our idea would be using it for 4 months and then return to GH (arround summer time here in Brazil).
Is there anything else (besides diet of course) you would sugest besides TAMOX… Proviron, another anti-E?[/quote] -
2 weeks
-
If you’re done with kids then your suggestion looks fine to me.
-
With women I would use arimidex, not tamoxifin. .5mg every 2nd or 3rd day
Some women use Proviron but it’s more risky for sides. If you decide to go with Proviron do 12.5mg everyday.
[/quote]
Thank you very much for a such a quick reply… Concerning my wife, We will try your suggestion of Arimidex .5mg every 2nd day.
My case, I would like to know which of these 3 options would suit me better… in your point of view/experience:
OPTION1
Cycle 8/10 weeks - Bridge (low test dose/no PCT) - Cycle 8/10 weeks
OPTION 2
Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - Cycle 14/16 weeks
OPTION 3
Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - TIME OFF (same as PCT) - Cycle 14/16 weeks
Some articles say that a low dose of test would have much low impact on your liver than a combination of Clomiphene n Tamox… any thoughts?[/quote]
All options are good and I would probably go with option 1 if having children isn’t in the future plan. When you’re using nolva and clomid for pct the goal is to help your body restore natural production of testosterone and hormone balance again. If natural production is not a concern then you don’t have to use clomid. As you know already, I am using nolvadex during all of my cycles.
[/quote]
Thanks once again for all the help… REALLY hope u stick arround for a long time…
I will follow your advice and go with OPTION 1 then… my PCT finishes in 2 weeks… gonna wait 2 more weeks (as u oriented me) to do some blood work… if everything shows up fine, in August I will start pinning again.
One last question for now:
Should I keep HCG @250IU during the 8 weeks cycle (twice a week)… and maybe during the bridge with a low test dose increase for 500IU (also twice week)? My concern is not to avoid any shutdown… just to keep my balls arround and the wife happy!!
[/quote]
You can keep the HCG in during the cycle and also increase it during the bridge. It will help keep the balls functioning.
I can see you’re doing your homework and your knowledge is improving.
I plan on sticking around here for a while!
[quote]The Myth wrote:
Hey Pro:
Appreciate all of the great help here. I posted awhile ago about a cycle and you gave me great advice. I’m eight weeks in and will update in four weeks with some pics and my impressions just to contribute to the knowledge base.
But, I have a question about bodyfat percentage. I know that the general rule of thumb is that you should be around 12% BF before cycling, which is considered lean for those aged 19-29, but I am 51 and at that age, anything less than 20% is considered lean. Does it logically follow that the rule of thumb is that you should be lean and not necessarily at 12%?
I realize this is only one aspect to consider before running a cycle and is directly related to diet - the idea being that if you can get lean then you have the discipline required to maximize the use of AAS. If you can’t get lean without them, don’t waste your money. Not to mention the aromatization issues associated with a higher bodyfat percentage. But, is 12% the magic number or is lean the key idea?
Thanks![/quote]
It’s a good question but even at the age of 51 I wouldn’t go above 12% body fat before starting a cycle. It’s not that 12 is a magic number but everything over that will hinder your bodies ability to gain lean mass and it will hurt the efficiency of the cycle. I would highly suggest to try and decrease body fat to around that level before starting. What is considered lean for “normal” people isn’t considered the same for high level athletes or even gym rats especially for those who are considering PED use.
would you say 100mg tren ace EOD 50mg test prop EOD is a good starting dosage for first time tren cycle?
OR
tren ace 75mg EOD test prop 50mg EOD ??
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]AndyJones1992 wrote:
Ok current pics taken. Excuse the body hair, kittens and no clue on posing �°???
Previous goals: Strength with blocky/bulky look. Fairly low bf.
Current goals: To be leaner, harder, keep growing, pick up lacking bodyparts, tighten waist.
Age: 23
Training split: 2/3 days on. 1 day off. Chest/tris, back/bis, shoulders/traps, legs(squats and deadlifts both performed on this day). Calfs every day pre main workout. abs - never.
Diet: Never counted actual nutrition intake. Just weigh and adjust according to what the mirror says. Average day (All weights raw and uncooked)
Meal 1: 140g oats. 12 egg whites. 2 yolks.
Meal 2: 80g basmati rice, 400g chicken breast, broccoli
Meal 3: 80g basmati rice, 400g chicken breast, broccoli
Meal 4: 80g basmati rice, 400g chicken breast, broccoli
Meal 5: 80g Basmati rice, 400-500g white fish, broccoli
Pre workout drink
Workout
Post workout weight gainer
Meal 6: 250g rump steak (lean as pos) 6 egg whites, 1 large sweet poatoe and broc
Sleep.
Work from meal 1 to 4 in a shop. Fairly active.
[/quote]
100mg EOD of each compound I suggested is good. The 1:1:1 ratio will give you the best combo for keeping muscle mass while leaning/hardening up, this is why I match the test and the tren. This way there’s also less chances for side effects.
Food choices look good but I would adjust the macros a bit to include plazma intraworkout and indigo pre workout to help with absorption.
[/quote]
Thankyou! Will report back mid way through cycle.
Hello!
First post here, i was reading the forum for a long time, after getting a little more knowledge, decide to register… and sorry bad english! ![]()
Shadow, im 23 yo, planing to enter BC.
Already made 2 years ago, protocol with cypio/trembo/hemogenin but in low doses, with low knowledge, and after a PCT, fortunatly not had any collaterals.
Now, im planning yo enter in BC, after 2 years “clean” i will enter in blast using:
1-12 Enantathe (500mg - w)
1-12 Boldenona (equipoise) (600mg - w)
6-12 Trembo Ace (500mg - w)
x -x Anavar (Oxandrolone) (XXmg - w) ??? ← already have, so, my first doubt is, use at the beggining or at the end? Or both?
After that, planning to cruise with 200mg - w cypio.
My other doubts are:
-HCG, can i use it with no stop… during all blast and all cruise? 250UI every 4 days is my plan. Correct? (I want to use HCG just to avoid ache at my balls… im fearing about that… but im fear of E2 go up because os HCG)
-Oxandrolone, as i said before, can i use it, and in the beggining or the last blast weeks?
-How do you recommend the division of blast, which days of week to pin with enan, equi and trembo?
-Cruise: what is the best, 1x a week 200mg or should i divide it in 2 or 3 times a week? Can i do it SQ, as i red its better than IM for cruise?
-Aromasin, im planning to use 0.25mg 2x week in blast, should i use until first weeks after start cruise or i stop imediatly after sop blast?
Aprecciate your help!!
More infos: 80Kg, 1.80M, 10% BF, 6y trainning
Using with the blast: ZMA, Chromium Picolinate, multivit and minerals, B Complex, Whey Protein, Whazy Maize, Omega-3 Fish Oil
Hi shadow.
Curent I’am on 600mg sustanon Weekly
In 10 days i plan add Tren E. 400mg /Week
My gooal is to lean bulk and keep BF 10-12%
1.Is ration test / tren 1:1 or low test high tren better then 2:1 test tren for my goals , stay lean and dry.
2. Nolva 10-20 ED or 0.5/1mg Arimidex EOD for water retention and dryer look on cyle.
3. Can i pin sustanon and tren 2x weekly or e3d ?
[quote]TeamNeverHome wrote:
would you say 100mg tren ace EOD 50mg test prop EOD is a good starting dosage for first time tren cycle?
OR
tren ace 75mg EOD test prop 50mg EOD ??[/quote]
I’d say to do a 1:1 ratio to begin with and try something like 100mg EOD of each.
[quote]g3n3s wrote:
Hello!
First post here, i was reading the forum for a long time, after getting a little more knowledge, decide to register… and sorry bad english! ![]()
Shadow, im 23 yo, planing to enter BC.
Already made 2 years ago, protocol with cypio/trembo/hemogenin but in low doses, with low knowledge, and after a PCT, fortunatly not had any collaterals.
Now, im planning yo enter in BC, after 2 years “clean” i will enter in blast using:
1-12 Enantathe (500mg - w)
1-12 Boldenona (equipoise) (600mg - w)
6-12 Trembo Ace (500mg - w)
x -x Anavar (Oxandrolone) (XXmg - w) ??? ← already have, so, my first doubt is, use at the beggining or at the end? Or both?
After that, planning to cruise with 200mg - w cypio.
My other doubts are:
-HCG, can i use it with no stop… during all blast and all cruise? 250UI every 4 days is my plan. Correct? (I want to use HCG just to avoid ache at my balls… im fearing about that… but im fear of E2 go up because os HCG)
-Oxandrolone, as i said before, can i use it, and in the beggining or the last blast weeks?
-How do you recommend the division of blast, which days of week to pin with enan, equi and trembo?
-Cruise: what is the best, 1x a week 200mg or should i divide it in 2 or 3 times a week? Can i do it SQ, as i red its better than IM for cruise?
-Aromasin, im planning to use 0.25mg 2x week in blast, should i use until first weeks after start cruise or i stop imediatly after sop blast?
Aprecciate your help!!
More infos: 80Kg, 1.80M, 10% BF, 6y trainning
Using with the blast: ZMA, Chromium Picolinate, multivit and minerals, B Complex, Whey Protein, Whazy Maize, Omega-3 Fish Oil
[/quote]
You can use the anavar from week 1-8 @ 50mg/day.
Use HCG at 250iu 2x/week and 20mg of nolvadex each day (increase dose if needed) and do throughout both the blast and cruise.
For the long esters just do injections twice a week and for the short esters do daily injections.
200mg once a week is fine for the cruise. Just do it IM like usual.
I prefer nolvadex but if you want to use Aromasin it’s up to you. I use the nolvadex throughout my whole cycle and pct.
I would suggest adding Plazma and indigo to your supplement list, it will help you tremendously.


