Shadow Pro Q&A 4.0

Tadeu_Personal · June 13, 2015, 2:13pm

How are you doing my friend? I have some questions for you… thanks in advance!

I am about to finish my PCT… right now I am using CLOMID (50mg twice/day) n TAMOX (20mg also twice/day)… everything is okay so far… I lost some “hardness” for sure, but I guess I have accomplished my goal of keeping 80% of my gains (mostly gains in quality, not volume)… after my last day of PCT, how long should I wait to do some blood tests?
As I told you, I feel I kept most of my gains… but my energy levels n libido are way low if I compare with my “cycle days”… I know u can not function the same ON and OFF cycle… but since I am about to turn 40 this year, Do you think it would be better to:

Cycle 8/10 weeks - Bridge (low test dose) - Cycle 8/10 weeks

Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - Cycle 14/16 weeks

Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - TIME OFF (same as PCT) - Cycle 14/16 weeks

I know only myself have the answer, but I really appreciate your input… I am done with kids… been training for 15 solid years… not sure if I can REALLY grow more muscles on my frame… Thinking on my health I am not sure with option would be wiser.

I am not sure if you remember, but my wife was using GH for the first time… She did it for 5 months… amazing results… but a high cost as well!! I would like to know your opinion about using TAMOX (10mg/day) to keep her gains/condition until we can afford another GH cycle… our idea would be using it for 4 months and then return to GH (arround summer time here in Brazil).
Is there anything else (besides diet of course) you would sugest besides TAMOX… Proviron, another anti-E?

Shadow_Pro · June 13, 2015, 9:50pm

[quote]ginston wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ginston wrote:
Hi shadow, great advice as always. the help is highly appreciated. I’m planning my cutting cycle in advanced so i can get all the compounds together now ready. could you recommend the best stack in your opinion for muscle hardness/vascularity etc and really getting that dry grainy look. I understand diet plays a huge role etc. Just curious on your pick of compounds for this purpose. i was thinking something like this??

Test prop 100mg ed
Tren ace 100mg ed
Mast Prop 100mg ed (never ran Masteron)
Anavar 100mg ed or winny 50-100mg ed? (never ran winny)
Proviron 75mg ed
Maybe some HGH?

Your input is appreciated. as always[/quote]

You are correct… Diet will be the main part of it! The cycle looks good but if you actually want a harder look I would run halo for the last 3-4 weeks of the diet at about 30mg/day. Winstrol seems to have a better effect on vascularity than anavar and it’s a bit stronger so I would go with that. I would encourage you to throw in an anti estrogen like nolvadex at 20mg/day.

If you decide to run GH for dieting purposes do 4iu in the morning on an empty stomach. It will help you burn fat and give you a rounder and fuller look throughout the diet.
[/quote]

How about this?

test prop 100mg ed 1-10
tren ace 100mg ed 1-10
mast prop 100mg ed 1-10
winny 50mg ed 4-10
proviron 50-75mg ed 1-10
Never ran halo but interested…

do you use EQ while dieting for added vascularity? i understand would need to be ran longer however.
[/quote]

This looks good. Don’t add eq while dieting because it’ll make you more hungry. The winstrol and halo will do the trick along with a good diet.

Shadow_Pro · June 13, 2015, 9:51pm

[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ginston wrote:
Hi shadow, great advice as always. the help is highly appreciated. I’m planning my cutting cycle in advanced so i can get all the compounds together now ready. could you recommend the best stack in your opinion for muscle hardness/vascularity etc and really getting that dry grainy look. I understand diet plays a huge role etc. Just curious on your pick of compounds for this purpose. i was thinking something like this??

Test prop 100mg ed
Tren ace 100mg ed
Mast Prop 100mg ed (never ran Masteron)
Anavar 100mg ed or winny 50-100mg ed? (never ran winny)
Proviron 75mg ed
Maybe some HGH?

Your input is appreciated. as always[/quote]

If you decide to run GH for dieting purposes do 4iu in the morning on an empty stomach. It will help you burn fat and give you a rounder and fuller look throughout the diet.
[/quote]

when looking for fatloss you say 4iu in the morning on an empty stomach, how long should you wait to eat after you pin the GH?
[/quote]

Wait 30min after pinning the GH before you eat.

Shadow_Pro · June 13, 2015, 9:54pm

[quote]ginston wrote:
Shadow. Any chance you could give your opinion on a pre contest cycle stack. From say 16 weeks out on which compounds you would say are best suited and at what point to add in the compounds or remove certain compounds etc. read a bit on pre contest stacks just trying to plan it all really. Many thanks.[/quote]

Check out the article I wrote last year. It’s called “What Pro Bodybuilders Are Really Using.” It’s talks about this. However, I don’t recommend you copy this cycle but you can get a good idea about timing and compounds here.

Shadow_Pro · June 13, 2015, 9:55pm

[quote]veniceboy wrote:
I know you hear this question not for the first time, but: is it really no problem taking nolvadex while being on tren? I heard it will cause problems…[/quote]

No issue at all. Where did you hear this?

Shadow_Pro · June 13, 2015, 9:58pm

[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
How are you doing my friend? I have some questions for you… thanks in advance!

I am about to finish my PCT… right now I am using CLOMID (50mg twice/day) n TAMOX (20mg also twice/day)… everything is okay so far… I lost some “hardness” for sure, but I guess I have accomplished my goal of keeping 80% of my gains (mostly gains in quality, not volume)… after my last day of PCT, how long should I wait to do some blood tests?
As I told you, I feel I kept most of my gains… but my energy levels n libido are way low if I compare with my “cycle days”… I know u can not function the same ON and OFF cycle… but since I am about to turn 40 this year, Do you think it would be better to:

Cycle 8/10 weeks - Bridge (low test dose) - Cycle 8/10 weeks

Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - Cycle 14/16 weeks

Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - TIME OFF (same as PCT) - Cycle 14/16 weeks

I know only myself have the answer, but I really appreciate your input… I am done with kids… been training for 15 solid years… not sure if I can REALLY grow more muscles on my frame… Thinking on my health I am not sure with option would be wiser.

I am not sure if you remember, but my wife was using GH for the first time… She did it for 5 months… amazing results… but a high cost as well!! I would like to know your opinion about using TAMOX (10mg/day) to keep her gains/condition until we can afford another GH cycle… our idea would be using it for 4 months and then return to GH (arround summer time here in Brazil).
Is there anything else (besides diet of course) you would sugest besides TAMOX… Proviron, another anti-E?[/quote]
2 weeks
If you’re done with kids then your suggestion looks fine to me.
With women I would use arimidex, not tamoxifin. .5mg every 2nd or 3rd day
Some women use Proviron but it’s more risky for sides. If you decide to go with Proviron do 12.5mg everyday.

StupidNumber13 · June 13, 2015, 11:01pm

Hey shadow,

Wanted to ask you a few questions,

A guy that got famous making a steroid documentairy (using pretty in-fucking-sane doses). I don’t remember exacly what his job is but if i’m right he councels people about the effects of AAS / PEDs and seems to be quite knowledgeable. He made a video on oestrogen management which kinda left me wondering what your opinion is

he mentioned he uses a combination of aromasin / nolvadex / proviron … opinions?
Hem also mentioned from a medical point of view if oestrogen is controlled other female sex hormones cannot create problems (he did say he has seen it happen anyway). When asked about caber while on drugs like tren/deca he feels it’s better to cover all bases. Again opinions?

Some question i simply wondered myself after seeing a gym friend make some serrious strength gains

Halo as a kick starter and then try to maintain/improve that strength from there?
The goal would be to only get stronger, i’m also aware of the serrious mental side effects assosiated with it (i’m naturally a calm person luckily). If i were to use it i’d probably get myself a home gym and train in the evening so i don’t bother other people by having increased aggression.

Lion_of_War · June 14, 2015, 1:39pm

Hi, this is a very interesting study on proviron at 100-150mg per day will not lower testosterone levels significantly.

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy

Lion_of_War · June 14, 2015, 1:41pm

Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George’s Hospital Medical School London, U.K.

Tadeu_Personal · June 14, 2015, 3:54pm

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
How are you doing my friend? I have some questions for you… thanks in advance!

I am about to finish my PCT… right now I am using CLOMID (50mg twice/day) n TAMOX (20mg also twice/day)… everything is okay so far… I lost some “hardness” for sure, but I guess I have accomplished my goal of keeping 80% of my gains (mostly gains in quality, not volume)… after my last day of PCT, how long should I wait to do some blood tests?
As I told you, I feel I kept most of my gains… but my energy levels n libido are way low if I compare with my “cycle days”… I know u can not function the same ON and OFF cycle… but since I am about to turn 40 this year, Do you think it would be better to:

Cycle 8/10 weeks - Bridge (low test dose) - Cycle 8/10 weeks

Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - Cycle 14/16 weeks

Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - TIME OFF (same as PCT) - Cycle 14/16 weeks

I know only myself have the answer, but I really appreciate your input… I am done with kids… been training for 15 solid years… not sure if I can REALLY grow more muscles on my frame… Thinking on my health I am not sure with option would be wiser.

I am not sure if you remember, but my wife was using GH for the first time… She did it for 5 months… amazing results… but a high cost as well!! I would like to know your opinion about using TAMOX (10mg/day) to keep her gains/condition until we can afford another GH cycle… our idea would be using it for 4 months and then return to GH (arround summer time here in Brazil).
Is there anything else (besides diet of course) you would sugest besides TAMOX… Proviron, another anti-E?[/quote]
2 weeks
If you’re done with kids then your suggestion looks fine to me.
With women I would use arimidex, not tamoxifin. .5mg every 2nd or 3rd day
Some women use Proviron but it’s more risky for sides. If you decide to go with Proviron do 12.5mg everyday.
[/quote]

Thank you very much for a such a quick reply… Concerning my wife, We will try your suggestion of Arimidex .5mg every 2nd day.

My case, I would like to know which of these 3 options would suit me better… in your point of view/experience:

OPTION1
Cycle 8/10 weeks - Bridge (low test dose/no PCT) - Cycle 8/10 weeks

OPTION 2
Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - Cycle 14/16 weeks

OPTION 3
Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - TIME OFF (same as PCT) - Cycle 14/16 weeks

Some articles say that a low dose of test would have much low impact on your liver than a combination of Clomiphene n Tamox… any thoughts?

AndyJones1992 · June 15, 2015, 4:19pm

Hi Shadow Pro.

I have been recommended to come here for some sound advice and from what I can see you are truly a priceless resource and much appreciated. Props to you.

Later on when I feel Ive got my head around a few little things I will request your help with a more personal approach to myself with training and diet etc. But for now to kick things off I have this for you!

I thought I had done plenty of research with several cycles under my belt all with great results and followed with correct protocol with ai’s and hcg on cycle and serms for pct. My latest cycle was 12 weeks of sustanon 250 @ 1ml eod. Loved it.

Most of my cycles and thinking has been a test as a base (usualy 2ml per week test e) with other compounds such as tren and decca being added (1-2ml per week) at a lower dose than test to keep libido etc in tune.

Now im looking for something new with a goal of leaner and harder gains in mind. Very interested in an 8 week cycle consisting of Tren ace, Test P and mast p.

I have easy access to products and 2 particular blends have cought my attention. Has all the compounds im looking for:

Lean Gain - Per ml: 50mg Test P, 75mg Tren Ace, 75mg Mast P.

Lean N Mean - Per ml: 50mg Test P, 50mg Tren Hex, 50mg Mast P.

My questions ar; is this a good ratio? Up until recently I would have put test higher, but recent reading has mentioned tren being higher than test can be beneficial? Swaying toward Lean Gain as the tren ace suits a shorter 8 week cycle more. Would you put these compounds in at a different ration?

In terms of dosage i was thinking 2ml eod. 250iu hcg 2 x per week. 0.5 armidex.

AndyJones1992 · June 15, 2015, 4:22pm

Heres some casual images just to give a rough idea where Im
at. Ile give better ones when I ask about diet etc! And when the abs and calfs come out of hibernation…

AndyJones1992 · June 15, 2015, 4:26pm

…

Shadow_Pro · June 15, 2015, 7:32pm

[quote]StupidNumber13 wrote:
Hey shadow,

Wanted to ask you a few questions,

A guy that got famous making a steroid documentairy (using pretty in-fucking-sane doses). I don’t remember exacly what his job is but if i’m right he councels people about the effects of AAS / PEDs and seems to be quite knowledgeable. He made a video on oestrogen management which kinda left me wondering what your opinion is

he mentioned he uses a combination of aromasin / nolvadex / proviron … opinions?
Hem also mentioned from a medical point of view if oestrogen is controlled other female sex hormones cannot create problems (he did say he has seen it happen anyway). When asked about caber while on drugs like tren/deca he feels it’s better to cover all bases. Again opinions?

Some question i simply wondered myself after seeing a gym friend make some serrious strength gains

Halo as a kick starter and then try to maintain/improve that strength from there?
The goal would be to only get stronger, i’m also aware of the serrious mental side effects assosiated with it (i’m naturally a calm person luckily). If i were to use it i’d probably get myself a home gym and train in the evening so i don’t bother other people by having increased aggression.[/quote]

I used this combo before, it’s not bad but it really depends on your goal.
Depending on the goal but I tend to agree with most of this statement.
Halo is great for strength. If you don’t go crazy with the dose it can definitely work. Something like 4 weeks at 30mg 45min preworkout can work well.

Shadow_Pro · June 15, 2015, 7:33pm

[quote]Lion of War wrote:
Hi, this is a very interesting study on proviron at 100-150mg per day will not lower testosterone levels significantly.

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy[/quote]

Interesting read. Thank you for sharing!

Shadow_Pro · June 15, 2015, 7:36pm

[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
How are you doing my friend? I have some questions for you… thanks in advance!

I am about to finish my PCT… right now I am using CLOMID (50mg twice/day) n TAMOX (20mg also twice/day)… everything is okay so far… I lost some “hardness” for sure, but I guess I have accomplished my goal of keeping 80% of my gains (mostly gains in quality, not volume)… after my last day of PCT, how long should I wait to do some blood tests?
As I told you, I feel I kept most of my gains… but my energy levels n libido are way low if I compare with my “cycle days”… I know u can not function the same ON and OFF cycle… but since I am about to turn 40 this year, Do you think it would be better to:

Cycle 8/10 weeks - Bridge (low test dose) - Cycle 8/10 weeks

Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - Cycle 14/16 weeks

Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - TIME OFF (same as PCT) - Cycle 14/16 weeks

I know only myself have the answer, but I really appreciate your input… I am done with kids… been training for 15 solid years… not sure if I can REALLY grow more muscles on my frame… Thinking on my health I am not sure with option would be wiser.

I am not sure if you remember, but my wife was using GH for the first time… She did it for 5 months… amazing results… but a high cost as well!! I would like to know your opinion about using TAMOX (10mg/day) to keep her gains/condition until we can afford another GH cycle… our idea would be using it for 4 months and then return to GH (arround summer time here in Brazil).
Is there anything else (besides diet of course) you would sugest besides TAMOX… Proviron, another anti-E?[/quote]
2 weeks
If you’re done with kids then your suggestion looks fine to me.
With women I would use arimidex, not tamoxifin. .5mg every 2nd or 3rd day
Some women use Proviron but it’s more risky for sides. If you decide to go with Proviron do 12.5mg everyday.
[/quote]

Thank you very much for a such a quick reply… Concerning my wife, We will try your suggestion of Arimidex .5mg every 2nd day.

My case, I would like to know which of these 3 options would suit me better… in your point of view/experience:

OPTION1
Cycle 8/10 weeks - Bridge (low test dose/no PCT) - Cycle 8/10 weeks

OPTION 2
Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - Cycle 14/16 weeks

OPTION 3
Cycle 14/16 weeks - PCT - TIME OFF (same as PCT) - Cycle 14/16 weeks

Some articles say that a low dose of test would have much low impact on your liver than a combination of Clomiphene n Tamox… any thoughts?[/quote]

All options are good and I would probably go with option 1 if having children isn’t in the future plan. When you’re using nolva and clomid for pct the goal is to help your body restore natural production of testosterone and hormone balance again. If natural production is not a concern then you don’t have to use clomid. As you know already, I am using nolvadex during all of my cycles.

Shadow_Pro · June 15, 2015, 7:40pm

[quote]AndyJones1992 wrote:
Hi Shadow Pro.