[quote]JT405 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]JT405 wrote:
It was always my understanding that you should completely avoid fats while insulin is active in your system - so if you are taking it multiple times a day and several 4.5 hour windows of insulin activity, how do you avoid fats? Easy to avoid fats for 4 hours if I take insulin pre workout
Right now, I’m taking 2.5 iu gh at 8 am, 2.5 iu gh at 3pm, and 10iu novolin-r at 7:30pm (I Train at 9) I usually have about 20 carbs (quinoa/rice) at 7pm, 40 carbs (karboload) at 8pm, sip on 50 carbs (karboload) from 8:30-9:30 during training, and another 20 carbs (karboload) within 30 minutes of training. Of course I have plenty of hydro and whey throughout this time period, and no fats at all aside from 30 min before I even pin the slin. Does this all look OK? I have never felt hypo at all with 10 iu and this amount of carbs, so I was thinking of reducing my carbs a bit since I read you don’t want to take on too many carbs or your body will stop shuttling protein
Also, I took 7 iu of -r this morning with 2.5 iu gh on empty stomach, had 25g carb and 40g protein, an hour later I’m not feeling anything - shouldn’t I be feeling slightly hypo at this point since I was ‘fasted’ when I woke up? Could this be the result of decreased insulin sensitivity?[/quote]
I would only use Humalog because there is a lot less chance of gaining fat because it’s short acting. I only avoid fats for about 3 hours after. Small amounts under 10g aren’t going to kill you. The time you inject insulin would depend on your goal. Obviously pre workout would be the best followed by Plazma and then another option would be first thing in the morning about 10min before your first meal (no fat in the meal)
If you’re getting hypo or not will depend on your insulin sensitivity.
It’s hard to say if your insulin sensitivity was fucked from what you did. If were you I would switch to short acting insulin and don’t stay on it for more than 6 weeks straight.[/quote]
Thank you for your help! So what would be the better timing schedule of the gh and insulin pins? Taking the gh at 6 am / 1 pm and then humalog at 8pm?
I think I know the answer, but the whole “15g carbs per iu” is over the entire active life of the insulin, right? So if my resistance +natural sensitivity means I need 8g per iu, I might take 2g/iu 10 min after shot, 1 hr after shot, 1.5 hr after shot, and 2.5 hr after shot? then normal meal at 3.5 hr after shot? assuming humalog. That way the carbs are spread out? [/quote]
I would do something like 8iu 10min preworkout and start sipping Plazma immediately. Have about 80g of carbs and that should cover your insulin. After the workout drink a mag10 immediately and then follow up by having a solid meal 60-90min after without fat included.
GH timing depends on your goal.