Shadow Pro Q&A 4.0

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[quote]Nozza wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Nozza wrote:
Hey Shadow,

I have been running Letro as my last resort to reduce my E2 levels for the last 16 weeks. I have been taking 1.25mg EOD and 12.5mg of Aromasin ED.

This has brought E2 down from 200 to 115. I am happy with this and I want to get off all Anti estrogens and see how my body responds and if it keeps my E2 down naturally this time.

I have access to Letro, Aromasin, Adex and Nova.

In your expert opinion what is the best way for me to run a “PCT” on my “PCT”?

I was thinking something along the lines of dropping Letro dose over the next two weeks and upping aromasin dosage then add in Nova?

Cheers once again for your help. [/quote]

Your plan might work. I have never heard of someone who was on letrozole for so long, that’d insane. I’m not an expert with this kind of long term use of strong anti estrogens. I would probably advise you to talk to your doctor or whoever gave you this program.

However, the idea you mentioned sounds very logical to me.
[/quote]

Cheers Shadow, here is what I was thinking

Week 1: Letrozole .6mg EOD - Aromasin - 12.5mg ED
Week 2: Letrozole .6mg E3D - Aromasin - 12.5mg ED
Week 3: Aromasin 25mg ED - Nova - 20mg ED
Week 4: Aromasin 25mg ED - Nova - 20mg ED
Week 5: Aromasin 12.5mg ED - Nova 20mg ED
Week 6: Nova 20mg ED

Week 7 off of everything?

Any improvements you could make would be greatly appreciated. [/quote]

This might work but as I mentioned before I’ve never worked with anyone who has taken so many anti estrogens. Worth a shot, let me know how it goes… I don’t want to make suggestions about subjects that I’m unsure of.

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[quote]PERSIANPUNISHER wrote:
SP:

I wanted to take the time to thank you not just for answering all of my questions, but for your kind words.“everyone take a look at this dudes picture and see what can be achieved naturally.” This world of ours has been my life love since i touched iron when I was 13, and this comment from a credible
Pro launch as yourself gave what I have been working on validity. It’s the greatest complement I have ever received, and it has motivated me even more to push myself to be even better, I’m still only 29 so I know with all variables being in place and my drive and genetics the sky is the limit! I do have a few more questions if you don’t mind, I just wanted to let you know how much you have impacted me going forward; respect is repaid with respect brother, thank you again.

  1. I plan to utilize your high carb/high protein/low fat approach when transitioning into a mass gain phase November 3rd. Being that I am currently running a high fat/high protein/moderate carb(centered around training), what is the proper rate to incrimentally increase carbs? My plan was to begin with an additional carb meal of 50g to begin with, monitor how my body responds based on the mirror and continue to add 25/50g of carbs each week throughout the 5month phase(November to March). Good approach? Suggestions?

  2. I am going to order plasma as suggested. I deadlift/squat/bench/clean/snatch/farmers walk/standing military press 3 times a week and do more body building oriented splits the other three days(chest/tri,back/bi, shoulders traps, legs, etc). , additionally, an incline walk of 3.0speed on an incline of 25.0 is done 5times a week post workout. I would like to use two scoops of plasma on my powerlifting days as I’m sure you can see based on all those exercises is pretty fucking taxing lol. Because I’m still running low carb I would be using majority if not all of primary carbs for the day in those two scoops. Is this acceptable, or should I just keep it to one each work out and utilize a separate carb meal throughout the day?

  3. I never asked you based on my picture what you thought my body fat may be? I assumed about 10% cause I know most people aren’t real objective, but what you said about me made me think about it more

  4. Is there any logic behind using a small dose(20mcg) of clen while in a mass gain phase to limit fat gain or would it be counter productive? Or should I just skip the clen and rely, as always, on having my diet/supplementation/training dialed in

  5. How do you feel about the training protocol I utilize? keeping in mind I always try to take after ohearn as far as reps/weight/etc. I train every day because I’ve always gotten my best results the more and harder I worked, I always thought overtraining is kinda bullshit. Do you agree? any adjustments?

  6. you had mentioned Alpha Male to me previously. I read that it doesn’t have to be cycled, but wouldn’t the body adapt to it eventually like it does with everything? If it’s legit i wouldn’t mind getting it and getting a boost, in just unsure of the science behind it. Could you elaborate?

  7. Cardio while mass gaining; counter productive? Minimize fat? Logic tells me this is completely individual and should be based on the mirror, but i would always like to learn something that can make me better :slight_smile:

  8. I would like to do a local show sometime in the future, tested/non tested doesn’t matter I just want to compete and see where I stack up. If I were to do a non tested one I would do physique, might not have enough mass to stack up with the big boys in bodybuilding l, however I believe a physique show at any level, tested or not, can be won naturally with proper diet/training/supplementation and with my generics victory is completely achievable naturally. Do you concurr?

  9. Interesting list for the Olympia, why not as much love for rhoden or Raymond?I had Heath/rhoden/wolf/Kai/dexter. 212 Raymond/flex/eduardo/hide/Henry.

  10. I admire and respect Dave Palumbo and Chris Aceto for their real candor and wealth of knowledge. I think what Dave does for the industry from an honesty standpoint is refreshing, and I also like how he is all about promoting the athletes and the sport overall, seems like just another one of us really. Just wondering if you know/met him and what your thoughts are on him and why no one will give him press passes anymore/make him pay $$, is this because the powers that be are punishing him for keeping it real or is the industry as a whole suffering right now?

  11. My training partner is going to read this and he refuses to squat or deadlift, can you pleas confirm
    That he will NEVER reading his full potential without consistently doing these FOUNDATIONAL movements?!?! Maybe if he hears it from a prince won’t think I’m a complete asshole for harping on him about it all the time.

Guess that’s all I could come up with tonight SP lol, once again I look forward to continuing to speak to you, thanks again for being around here, one love. [/quote]

My pleasure… Just stating the truth about your hard work!

  1. Excellent suggestion. The key word here is gradual increase and obviously while you’re increasing the carbs you should lower the fat accordingly. 25-50 per week is a good place to start, take down the equivalent amount of calories from fat.

  2. This is absolutely acceptable especially because you’re slowly changing approaches. The best place to have the carbs without worrying too much is intraworkout. Once your body adjust to that you can add them preworkout, then post workout and then slowly throughout the day.

  3. 10-11%

  4. No point, when you’re gaining just keep your diet clean and supplements on track. Use the Clen when you’re dieting and trying to get leaner.

  5. I tend to agree with this statement. Everyone is different and has different capacity to endure training volume and intensity. For the most part people are just lazy and don’t work hard enough but since you are training hard and you feel like you’re run down then you can take a day off here and there… It will only have positive effects.

  6. I love AlphaMale. I am using it in my PCT’s. I don’t see a reason to cycle off from it either, it will just help enhance your natural testosterone.

  7. A little bit, just for health benefits. Maybe 3 times a week of 25min low intensity cardio. Helps with body composition and active recovery. And yes this is very individual as well.

  8. Depends on the level of your competitors. You can definitely look very good but if someone is an enhanced athlete and dials it in then he’ll have a better option to look harder, drier and fuller than you.

  9. Jose Raymond is too bulky for me when you compare him to flex or Eduardo for example. I think Kai, Dennis and Phil are an obvious top 3 and Dexter and Rhoden will fight for 4 & 5.

  10. He’s a great guy and I agree that he’s doing a great job to promote the sport.There’s a lot of politics in the Ifbb. Let’s keep it at that.

  11. Tell your training partner that if he refuses to squat and deadlift then he’s an idiot. I’m not even going to get into this.

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[quote]wenbin wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]wenbin wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]wenbin wrote:
Hi ! Currently doing second cycle of test e , deca and dbol.
wk 1-3 750mg test e
wk 5-15 500mg test e
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
wk 8-12 dbol 50mg ed
wk 1-10 400mg deca EW

PCT: wk 17-wk25 of nolva 20mg ED

can u please critique my cycle? Thanks ![/quote]

I would also add HCG and nolvadex throughout the cycle. 2 full bottles of AlphaMale in the pct (double recommended dosage each day)

I’m assuming you’re planning on a mass cycle here? If so, this is a very basic cycle. Pay attention to your diet or you will experience a lot of extra water retention.[/quote]

Yes ! its a basic cycle because its only my second sir. Btw, how much dosage and length of time of nolva and hcg to take? Also, you mentioned that i should pay extra attention to my diet. Can u tell me what i have to take note of? Thanks again!
[/quote]

Basic is a good thing, I didn’t mean for that to be offensive. Run nolvadex throughout the whole cycle at 20mg/day and continue after the cycle with 40/40/20/20/20 and 2 full bottles of AlphaMale. HCG @ 250iu 2x/week for the whole cycle, after the cycle use 500iu 2x/week with the rest of the pct.

I would pay extra attention to intraworkout nutrition. A minimum of 2 servings of Plazma during your workout as one of your main carb sources for the day. Indigo would also be a good idea so you keep carbs higher than you would usually be able to at any given point.
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Hey man thanks for all the answered queries i have ! Really appreciate your time and effort. Just a last quick one, is there any must-have when i’m using deca, like caber or something? And also, can i use HCG only during the last two weeks of my cycle, 2500iu per week?
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Always keep caber on hand if you’re using tren or deca. I would use HCG throughout the whole cycle.

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after being on a low dose test for several weeks and using Indigo and Micro PA im convinced that stuff is the real deal. i just wish i could afford to take them everyday. Right now i only use them pre workout and i can definitely tell every time i use them. one thing for sure about 1 hour after i take Micro PA i get pretty vascular and with the 2 combined i can get some pretty nice pumps.

Next cycle i will make sure and use these as much as possible and see what happens.

I see effects from these 2 combined similar to Tren.

I’ve scaled my periworkout carbs back to 2 scoops of Plazma and 1 Finibar. i’ll be moving it back to 3 scoops of Plazma on my higher volume days and stay on 2 for my strength based days.

every now and then i just like to make a post on here if i have “new to me” findings especially if its product related to our forums.

thanks,

Tyler

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Hey SP. For someone that is taking humalog preworkout on training days only, what would be the maximum duration to do this in your opinion?

I know most people advocate 1 month on and 1 month off. But humalog is such a fast acting insulin so wouldnt creating insulin dependancy be slim to none especially when only using it once a day, 5 days a week?

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Hi Shadow! Thank you for answering our
questions, awesome thread. Each person has a different kind of blood and there have been books written about this like Eat right 4 your type. My question is how much does a blood type define your maximum bodybuilding potential, does it have anything to do with muscle growth?

Keep up the good work.

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mr,shadow please i have question and hoping for ur wise reply bec i did a thread no one replied
i am on my late 19 and competed 2 times in natural shows and realize all top 10 who step on stage are cycling on low doses cuz it’s physique category anyway and they don’t test !!
my next show is in 11/dec and i will start my cycle on 21 this month here are my options are :
test e 500mg/week for 8 weeks
or
test e 500mg/week for 8 weeks + dianabol 20mg/day for 4 weeks and take gh on pct pre contest
or
test e 500mg/week for 8 weeks + deca 300mg/week for 8 weeks and take gh on pct pre contest

i am 65kg 5’6" 6.5% bf
if i took the dbol stack could i come on stage at the same bf

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Hi shadow !!
Curently i’am do cycle week 5
Sustanon 900mg per week ( first 4 was 600mg / week)
Tren E - 400mg
adex 0.5 eod

weight 108kg
bf-10%
My goal is lean mass. My diet is strict and 6x per week traning.
Side efects mood changes , and litle less libido !! No insomnia , no acne problems.
My question how long you advice to do tren E on this cycle.( i was planing 10 weeks )
This is my first cyle on tren E , earlier i was on tren A- and i see more strenght gains on 300mg tren A then , more hardness and more vaskualrity . Do you advise do bring up tren E to 600mg per week?or switch to tren a? How much tren A is stronger then tren E ??

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SP our mentor! Just an update for you… week 6 from 9 of my cycle… I switched the D-BOL for NANDROLONE. right now I am using 600mg of it plus 600mg of TEST-C… I know u suggested me to use more test than nandro, but next week I will start lowering the NANDRO doses… Feeling pretty good, hungry as a lion and strong as a bull!!

No sides regarding DECA-DICK or anything… as a matter of fact, my sexual appetite is higher than usual thx God!! I am keeping 20mg of tamox everyday and twice a week HCG (250)… weight start at 95Kg (209lbs) and now 102,4Kg (225lbs)… my goal is to reach 104Kg (230lbs)… do you think I can get there? I know the picture is in black n white and I am looking bigger than reality, but I just want to show you how your friend from Brazil is doing! BTW, this weight is measured first thing in the morning right after my BCAAs

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[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:
after being on a low dose test for several weeks and using Indigo and Micro PA im convinced that stuff is the real deal. i just wish i could afford to take them everyday. Right now i only use them pre workout and i can definitely tell every time i use them. one thing for sure about 1 hour after i take Micro PA i get pretty vascular and with the 2 combined i can get some pretty nice pumps.

Next cycle i will make sure and use these as much as possible and see what happens.

I see effects from these 2 combined similar to Tren.

I’ve scaled my periworkout carbs back to 2 scoops of Plazma and 1 Finibar. i’ll be moving it back to 3 scoops of Plazma on my higher volume days and stay on 2 for my strength based days.

every now and then i just like to make a post on here if i have “new to me” findings especially if its product related to our forums.

thanks,

Tyler[/quote]

I really like this combo as well. It’s great for both pump and body composition, it works even better when you’re on cycle.

What you’re doing with the intraworkout nutrition looks good.

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[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
Hey SP. For someone that is taking humalog preworkout on training days only, what would be the maximum duration to do this in your opinion?

I know most people advocate 1 month on and 1 month off. But humalog is such a fast acting insulin so wouldnt creating insulin dependancy be slim to none especially when only using it once a day, 5 days a week?[/quote]

I would say 6 weeks on and 6 weeks off to be safe(Some people do 8 & 8) Only on training days!

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[quote]Sparowe wrote:
Hi Shadow! Thank you for answering our
questions, awesome thread. Each person has a different kind of blood and there have been books written about this like Eat right 4 your type. My question is how much does a blood type define your maximum bodybuilding potential, does it have anything to do with muscle growth?

Keep up the good work.[/quote]

Hi,

You’re welcome. I don’t believe this is true, there are so many gimmick diets out there I actually don’t know any bodybuilders who eat based on their blood type. I wouldn’t say it has any effect on your bodybuilding potential.

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[quote]ARAFA wrote:
mr,shadow please i have question and hoping for ur wise reply bec i did a thread no one replied
i am on my late 19 and competed 2 times in natural shows and realize all top 10 who step on stage are cycling on low doses cuz it’s physique category anyway and they don’t test !!
my next show is in 11/dec and i will start my cycle on 21 this month here are my options are :
test e 500mg/week for 8 weeks
or
test e 500mg/week for 8 weeks + dianabol 20mg/day for 4 weeks and take gh on pct pre contest
or
test e 500mg/week for 8 weeks + deca 300mg/week for 8 weeks and take gh on pct pre contest

i am 65kg 5’6" 6.5% bf
if i took the dbol stack could i come on stage at the same bf
[/quote]

Can you please post a current picture.

At 19 years old I would probably recommend staying away from juice unless you’re some kind of super freak 19 year old (no offense but I highly doubt that, it would be very rare) All of these options you gave are horrible which tells me you haven’t done much research on the subject. Post up a picture and prove me wrong!

SP

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[quote]tacelazar wrote:
Hi shadow !!
Curently i’am do cycle week 5
Sustanon 900mg per week ( first 4 was 600mg / week)
Tren E - 400mg
adex 0.5 eod

weight 108kg
bf-10%
My goal is lean mass. My diet is strict and 6x per week traning.
Side efects mood changes , and litle less libido !! No insomnia , no acne problems.
My question how long you advice to do tren E on this cycle.( i was planing 10 weeks )
This is my first cyle on tren E , earlier i was on tren A- and i see more strenght gains on 300mg tren A then , more hardness and more vaskualrity . Do you advise do bring up tren E to 600mg per week?or switch to tren a? How much tren A is stronger then tren E ?? [/quote]

With tren-e I would recommend using it for less than 12 weeks. I think 500-600/week would be more beneficial as it’s a lot less potent than tren-a
It’s not that it’s weaker but it gives you a lot less side effects but also less gains than tren-a. If the goal of the cycle is mass then stick with tren-e and leave tren-a for a strength or cutting cycle.

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[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
SP our mentor! Just an update for you… week 6 from 9 of my cycle… I switched the D-BOL for NANDROLONE. right now I am using 600mg of it plus 600mg of TEST-C… I know u suggested me to use more test than nandro, but next week I will start lowering the NANDRO doses… Feeling pretty good, hungry as a lion and strong as a bull!!

No sides regarding DECA-DICK or anything… as a matter of fact, my sexual appetite is higher than usual thx God!! I am keeping 20mg of tamox everyday and twice a week HCG (250)… weight start at 95Kg (209lbs) and now 102,4Kg (225lbs)… my goal is to reach 104Kg (230lbs)… do you think I can get there? I know the picture is in black n white and I am looking bigger than reality, but I just want to show you how your friend from Brazil is doing! BTW, this weight is measured first thing in the morning right after my BCAAs[/quote]

You look great and I’m happy to hear things are working well. I think you can reach 230 without a problem, your body fat is low and you’re full and round. Great job! Thank you for keeping me updated.

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Ive been working my way through every thread and post and enjoying it all. Now ive heard you alot tell people drugs arent needed in mens physique or they are taking way too much. I even saw you say some pros are natural which personally i dont agree with. Regardless, what in your opinion is a normal cycle for a top physique competitor? I do agree that alot of novice competetors are taking way too much and its actually more detremental to their physique then good.

The problem with physiqur is it seems to be taking a turn from “physique” to mid size bodybuilders. The last few nationals ive been to the physique winners were bigger then some of the bodybuilder winners. A few pros i know are the same way i mean they are just massive. So just curious what your opinion on a pro stack would be

Thabks and look forward to your thoughts.

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Hi im just starting a bulking cycle ,and i plan on using sust,anadrol and deca and add Insulin and HGH . HGH ill use is pharm grade Genotropin,Insulin is Humalog. I want an opinion on timing of shooting HGH ,as i plan to use Humalog mainly post workout right before my fast acting carbs and protein shake. Im curious on what you advise will be when to take the HGH ,how to spare it throughout the day and how to maybe use it post workout around the Humalog shot ill take? Also would you advise using Humalog more frequently than only post workout

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Why do you run so much test with Trenbolone? Wouldn’t you be better off running less test and more tren?

Another question: When I run a lot of tren my progesterone gets high of course - tren being a prog derivative as you know. And even though my e2 levels are low and prolactin non-existent I’ve still had that pre-gyno tingling sensation on occasion - especially with Deca in the mix so I can only attribute it to high prog levels exciting the small amount of e2. Have you ever used “Selective Progesterone Receptor Modulators” or other methods to lower prog?

Thanks

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ARAFA wrote:
mr,shadow please i have question and hoping for ur wise reply bec i did a thread no one replied
i am on my late 19 and competed 2 times in natural shows and realize all top 10 who step on stage are cycling on low doses cuz it’s physique category anyway and they don’t test !!
my next show is in 11/dec and i will start my cycle on 21 this month here are my options are :
test e 500mg/week for 8 weeks
or
test e 500mg/week for 8 weeks + dianabol 20mg/day for 4 weeks and take gh on pct pre contest
or
test e 500mg/week for 8 weeks + deca 300mg/week for 8 weeks and take gh on pct pre contest

i am 65kg 5’6" 6.5% bf
if i took the dbol stack could i come on stage at the same bf
[/quote]

Can you please post a current picture.

At 19 years old I would probably recommend staying away from juice unless you’re some kind of super freak 19 year old (no offense but I highly doubt that, it would be very rare) All of these options you gave are horrible which tells me you haven’t done much research on the subject. Post up a picture and prove me wrong!

SP[/quote]

this photos were taken in my first show exactly 1 year ago so i added like 8-9 lbs of lean muscle right now
http://postimg.org/image/9167jtc9j/

http://postimg.org/image/ex0577rkn/

http://postimg.org/image/3w0eog9xz/

http://postimg.org/image/3zytig4t3/

http://postimg.org/image/z87efrujb/

http://postimg.org/image/6398q44lz/

my back photo in the gym is a recent one btw

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Hi shadow…just looking at ideal pre workout insulin protocols. i seen mike arnolds protocol. are you aware if it? i wanted to know your opinion on glycerol monosterate…is it worthless or worth adding into pre/intra/post workout shakes? want to get the most out of it whike the insulin is active…my protocol looks something like this. could you let me know if any good or needs changing.
4iu HGH (genotropin) 30mins pre workout 10iu Humalog 15mins pre workout with

shake 1-(pre)
50g branched cyclic dextrin, 20-30g hydrolised whey protein, 5g creatine, 10g glutamine, 3g leucine, bcaa?. was also going to add taurine,arginine,beta alanine,citrulline and caffeine to pre workout shake for increased pumps and energy. also seen glycerol monosterate on the list?

45-60mins after 1 shake
shake 2-(intra)
50g branched cyclic dextrin, 20-30g hydrolised whey protein, 5g creatine, 10g glutamine, 3g leucine. bcaa?

45-60mins after shake 2
shake 3-(post)
50g branched cyclic dextrin, 20-30g hydrolised whey protein, 5g creatine, 10g glutamine, 3g leucine, bcaa?

Then solid meal 60mins after shake with low or no fats. (this would work out last meal for me)

trying to get this right and make it as productive as possible. Thanks also already been asked with regards to insulin sensitivity what would be best way to run insulin pre workout throughout 16week cycle while keeping in mind insulin sensitivity. Thanks for the help